Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:07 pm Post subject:
Joran van der Sloot
Subject description: this time he will be punished
He got away with the murder of Nathalee. This time its clear that he killed her. What is your opinion about Joran? What kind of punishment should he get? I think he should first be send to the hardest prison in Peru, if he survives that he has 20 years in the US to spend, also in the hardest prison. And if he survives that (60 years later) he will be shot and dies. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Location: Maastricht, The Netherlands
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:20 pm Post subject:
Dutchygamer wrote:
I hope he gets Death Sentence in the Peruan cell. He brings shame on all Dutch ppl.
You want him get away with it that easily? I hope they're not done with him just yet. He deserves to suffer. For this guy, death sentence is an easy way out he's not worthy of. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
You want him get away with it that easily? I hope they're not done with him just yet. He deserves to suffer. For this guy, death sentence is an easy way out he's not worthy of.
There is no ztyping point to keeping people locked away in prison for life. It's a waste of everyone's ztyping resources. Kill the son of a bitch and get on with life. _________________ Because Banshee saw fit to ban my other account for no reason, this is my new one. QUICK_EDIT
Such rash judgement only creates more hatred and violence. I'm not talking about any single case. I disagree with death penalty, for now.
Besides, if the suspect has been sentenced to death, and later turns out he/she wasn't to blame, then it's all "oops, he was innocent. Oh well, can do nothing cuz he/she's dead, lol"
Instead of punishing, people should really, really concentrate on preventing. Figure out what I mean if you already didn't. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:39 pm Post subject:
Once the prevention fails us, however, anything goes. Unless those who live in jails for life provide some kind of important service, they seem to be nothing more than parasites. Not the nicest view, but it is so.
But seriously, who is this guy? _________________ DUNK! QUICK_EDIT
That is true, but then again, the world is full of all kinds of parasites. Does that mean we should get rid of them all? Yes this does get a bit off the topic _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Location: Tiberium Research Center N27
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:24 pm Post subject:
Crimsonum wrote:
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Not the nicest view, but it is so
That is true, but then again, the world is full of all kinds of parasites. Does that mean we should get rid of them all? Yes this does get a bit off the topic
The point is to make parasites to be of use. Think about them as leaches - usually annoying, they have been made use of. Now, if only we could find some use for everything, then there would indeed be no need for extermination. _________________ DUNK! QUICK_EDIT
Instead of punishing, people should really, really concentrate on preventing. Figure out what I mean if you already didn't.
There is no prevention. Crazy people are going to do crazy things and seemingly normal people will still snap without provocation. It's impossible to just say "prevention is the solution." It might help, but not to any noticeable extent. _________________ Because Banshee saw fit to ban my other account for no reason, this is my new one. QUICK_EDIT
Now, if only we could find some use for everything, then there would indeed be no need for extermination
Compulsory labour for the rest of their lives? Like, hard physical work which benefits the rest of the society. Under surveilance of course. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Now, if only we could find some use for everything, then there would indeed be no need for extermination
Compulsory labour for the rest of their lives? Like, hard physical work which benefits the rest of the society. Under surveilance of course.
That's already there...or atleast it was.
I agree with Crimmy on the point he made earlier, about Death Sentences.
Prejudiced judgments often lead to really stupid mistakes, happens alot in politics and in the court. Also, executing people in your country's name is stupid just because you think it hurts your pride or brings shame to your country. The only real people that need to be executed are the ones who actually deserve it.
The guy's a murderer, if he really deserves death, then be done with it, why waste resources in making him suffer when he's just gonna burn in hell anyway? Big Fuckin Deal Mate. _________________ Please, I DON'T read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
I have to agree though that in some places the sentences for manslaughter or murder are really low in terms of years to spend in prison. They should be close to one's lifetime (or half of it, 30 or more years)in my opinion. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Shame it's only you and some other crazies then, isn't it?
Death penalties are stupid. Some guy just went mad and so you kill him instead of extracting all the data you can! That'd be like going into plane crashes with a sledgehammer and smashing the Black box... People who do this kind of thing don't deserve to be put back into society, doing so is the exact opposite of what should be done. But whilst they are still alive they can e the source of research data as to what the hell was going on. The reason we don't understand this is there isn't enough known about why. If we can find that out we can reduce how much this happens, killing them is a waste of data and sets back the process. _________________ Albrecht never dies, he just goes to the nearest bar to regroup. QUICK_EDIT
I have to agree though that in some places the sentences for manslaughter or murder are really low in terms of years to spend in prison. They should be close to one's lifetime (or half of it, 30 or more years)in my opinion.
Damn Straight, I swear to God, If they're gonna sentence a guy to prison for something he did, then atleast make it worthwhile with what they did.. _________________ Please, I DON'T read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
Shame it's only you and some other crazies then, isn't it?
Death penalties are stupid. Some guy just went mad and so you kill him instead of extracting all the data you can! That'd be like going into plane crashes with a sledgehammer and smashing the Black box... People who do this kind of thing don't deserve to be put back into society, doing so is the exact opposite of what should be done. But whilst they are still alive they can e the source of research data as to what the hell was going on. The reason we don't understand this is there isn't enough known about why. If we can find that out we can reduce how much this happens, killing them is a waste of data and sets back the process.
100% correct.
Another thing,which I don't know how many people around here know - the Swedish way of punishing these kind of serial killers - psychological torture.
I think it works,and that 5-10 years of such thing can do miracles.Heck,they become some good taxpayers,IMO. QUICK_EDIT
Shame it's only you and some other crazies then, isn't it?
Death penalties are stupid. Some guy just went mad and so you kill him instead of extracting all the data you can! That'd be like going into plane crashes with a sledgehammer and smashing the Black box... People who do this kind of thing don't deserve to be put back into society, doing so is the exact opposite of what should be done. But whilst they are still alive they can e the source of research data as to what the hell was going on. The reason we don't understand this is there isn't enough known about why. If we can find that out we can reduce how much this happens, killing them is a waste of data and sets back the process.
100% correct.
Another thing,which I don't know how many people around here know - the Swedish way of punishing these kind of serial killers - psychological torture.
I think it works,and that 5-10 years of such thing can do miracles.Heck,they become some good taxpayers,IMO.
Hmmm... Why not experimentate with them? Whe have the unique possibility to test special things on humans, for example what sideeffects a medicament could have - who would care if they get seriously damaged? who will care about it, if some of them die? They would be able to help society, at least. Sacrficing them (even if not voluntary). Better then spending a life in prison, draining recources and suffer from being isolated (if they suffer ...). Its just bullshit. Death sentence is a waste of life, prison a waste of recources. The most logical answer are experiments and labour! But with labour they would even stealing jobs (probably), so, experiments are even more useful. They aren't able to survive in society, and making them fit in society again would be a waste. He would always be insane, at least by its theraphy, and these humans are dangerous. Noooo... We have to use them! _________________
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