Custom Palettes (Ares)?

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

has anyone used custom palettes on building types with Ares yet? The Manual says it's possible, but I cant seem to get them working. I added it several different ways, and nothing.
I tried using these settings.
Palette=liberty
Palette=liberty.pal
CustomPalette=liberty
CustomPalette=liberty.pal

none of these worked, and my .shp was made with and saved with liberty.pal and yes it's in c&c format and in an expandmd.mix file as well as in the directory itself.

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AlexB · Commander **Joined**: 31 May 2010 **Location**: Germany

Hi Cranium,
correct format should be Palette=liberty.
Which Ares revision are you using? Are the Palette= tags in artmd.ini? Are all filenames in lower case?

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Hi Alex,
I was using my new Ares.dll I compiled myself. But I removed it thinking maybe it was that. I replaced it with 0.1P1 but didnt work with it either. As of now I have it coded with Palette=liberty and still not working even with 0.1P1. XCC and shp builder display it correctly as it should be, but ingame its a mess.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Art code.

[LIBERTY]
Height=25
NewTheater=no
DemandLoad=true
Palette=liberty
CanBeHidden=false
Foundation = Custom
Foundation.X = 5
Foundation.Y = 5

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Holy_Master · Commander **Joined**: 21 Jul 2004 **Location**: Thailand

i use it and it work normal for me. all tag i use is just

Palette=palname [dont need to put .pal ] at all

for the unit i want to use in artmd.ini .

maybe your pal name is too long. you should try to rename by use only 4 character for name. and use capital letter in artmd.ini like

Palette=FEDU ; for example

however i'm not 100 % sure this will work.

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Thanks HolyMaster, but those didnt work either.

Man, This damn mod has givin me one to many damn headaches. Mother bleepin, son of a bleep,bleep, and bleepin bleep.

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Gangster · Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:54 am Post subject:

Here is my code:

[NARADR]
Remapable=yes
Normalized=yes
Height=3
Cameo=NRADICON
Foundation=2x2
Buildup=NARADRMK
DemandLoadBuildup=true
FreeBuildup=true
;NewTheater=yes
ActiveAnim=NARADR_A
ActiveAnimDamaged=NARADR_AD
ActiveAnimZAdjust=-60
ActiveAnimYSort=100
Palette=nodunit

Cant see much difference with yours but it
works for any revision. :\
Tested for temperate terrain only.

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Allied General · Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:33 am Post subject:

It was probably fixed in a revision.

You should use the latest test version.

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¥R_M0dd€r · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 03 Jan 2011

I think this will fix your problem, copy your pal 5 times and rename them to this:

libertytem.pal
libertylun.pal
libertyurb.pal
libertysno.pal
libertydes.pal

4StarGeneral · General **Joined**: 14 Sep 2006 **Location**: Limbo

¥R_M0dd€r wrote:

I think this will fix your problem, copy your pal 5 times and rename them to this:

libertytem.pal
libertylun.pal
libertyurb.pal
libertysno.pal
libertydes.pal

Lolno.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Actually, yes that did make it work 4StarGeneral. Why I have no clue. But now I have a seperate set of issues. Seems the bottom half of the first row of colors in the palette automatically get read as remap even if said structure uses no remap colors. So now the game is displaying the Liberty in it's proper palette by using YR Modders method, however if you look at pics the ingame game image, the whitish areas displayed are the colors that fall in the bottom half of the first row of palette colors. Is there a way to fix this?

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MT · Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:15 pm Post subject:

Manually editing the palette to make those slots red again is what I do. Hell, you could set them all pink, that will still avoid their use by the converters. It works no problem. A good palette editor is on the front page of this site in the tools, thank Banshee.

Cranium wrote:

Actually, yes that did make it work 4StarGeneral. Why I have no clue.

It's normal to have a separate palette for each theatre. This is because snow theatres would usually need more snow colours on their ship, and such. Think of it as a feature which you could use, if you ever wanted to make more theatre specific versions of things.

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

I know how to edit a palette,"I already use banshee's great palette editor" Smile

the question I was trying to get at is, can the game read a palette without thinking the bottom half of the first row is remap?

other thing is, if I make the building NewTheater=no it shoulnt need all theater palettes should it?

m7 · Commander **Joined**: 17 Apr 2009

You've set Remapable= to no in your artmd.ini codes?

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Well game defaults to remapable=no if tag isnt present, but yes, I have remapable=no set. Didnt stop it from recognizing it as reamap though.

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MT · Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject:

Remappable=no just makes it gray like Civilian afaik. Hence your screenshot.

I don't think you can get around these, although in both cases (pal + names) thankfully the work around isn't really more than 5 minutes of minor edits.

FurryQueen · General **Joined**: 24 Jul 2010 **Location**: Liyue

REMAPABLE DOES NOT WORK IN RA2!

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

MT wrote:

I don't think you can get around these, although in both cases (pal + names)

But if you take a look at the stock CANEWY04 "StatueOfLiberty" it uses the libtem,libsno,liburb palettes. Niether of them have remap in those slots either yet it displays the liberty fine. Confused

anyway, I was under the assumption that if I created an image with it's own palette that all I would have to do is make the shp with it's palette and then insert the new palette under Palette=. But I guess I'll just have top do some palette editing.

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ArvinCool · Tiberian Beast **Joined**: 01 Jun 2008

In this case, on your building, dont use these color on the palette

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

dosent the palette require the first two slots 0,1 for background and shadow?

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Nyerguds · Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:42 am Post subject:

First is background yes, but the shadow is put on separate frames in TS/RA2 SHP anyway so I don't know if the game will have a problem with using that colour.

I still think it's really odd how SHP Editor displays the palette vertically Confused

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Orac · Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:49 am Post subject:

And the nounlight (last row, bottom 16) are fine on buildings, just not on voxels Wink