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I think i killed my MOBO [Solved]
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Wess
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:10 pm    Post subject:  I think i killed my MOBO [Solved] Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well it was time to get rid of the dust my pc had collected over the past year , but now it's not getting any power (i think i gave it a bit of a shock).
I checked the psu (did that paper clip test) and it is getting power my case fans still work and my dvd player is alive as well. tested the power button, wel the pins, from what i read you make a connection between to 2 pins and it should start, not working.
And no lights on my mobo, so i'm thinking i fried my own mobo Confused
Anything else i can do to be sure, i don't trust my own judgment, i'm only aware of bits and pieces when it comes to computers.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

At least you didn't wipe your hard drive.

Still replacing a mobo is expensive.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Completely remove every power supply (remove the power plug from the psu), then press the power button, so every tiny bit of power is used. Then give it power again and test if it works. Sometimes an electrostatic discharge (e.g. during cleaning) can cause trouble inside the circuits, which might be removed this way.

However it also could be irreversible and you really fried your mobo.

It also sometimes helps to remove all cables from the mobo and then put them back in. Maybe you have a loose connection somewhere caused due to the cleaning.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Maybe some BIOS settings have been screwed up somehow. Try to remove the CMOS battery and put it back on, this will reset BIOS settings. I doubt it has anything to do with the BIOS though but, it's worth a try.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

CMOS would not cause it to stop starting up, but i suggest what LKO said, this is what we used to do back in the shop in this scenario.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

A bad CMOS battery can prevent a PC from booting. Just... so everyone knows.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Really? I honestly never had that as a fault in the 2 or so years i repaired systems...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oh yeah. A bad CMOS battery can cause the same symptoms as a mobo failure. That's one thing I always do when I have a probably dead board. Pop that son of a bitch off and try to boot. If it goes right in, you have your answer. If not, well... you know the rest.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If your motherboard has a BIOS restore feature, try it out by using the jumper, if otherwise, try what what Fen said.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I had a very similar situation a few months back, which was solved in the way that Inzane suggests.
Though I never found out the actual fault, and only know the symptoms.. So not much help for you in hindsight Confused

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I guess my mobo is dead, i have tried everything i can find on the web and tips on several forums, but there is no sign of live. guess i'll be getting a new mobo this weekend.

thanks anyway guys Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Always touch a radiator before you touch inside your computer

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ArvinCool wrote:
Always touch a radiator before you touch inside your computer

Either that, or strap yourself to the case with an anti-static wristband. It keeps you from shocking anything delicate.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Everyone should own an antistatic wristband. And an antistatic bag or two.
For these sorts of situation.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes i'm aware of that now, sadly to late, even though i knew it already but you know, some people need to learn it the hard way, like me.
But with the bad comes some good, an unscheduled upgrade Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've never used an anti-static band when I work on the inside of computers.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Atari2600 wrote:
ArvinCool wrote:
Always touch a radiator before you touch inside your computer

Either that, or strap yourself to the case with an anti-static wristband. It keeps you from shocking anything delicate.


Or just touch anything exposed metal-wise. Like casing screws or on some machines the big metal bolt that holds one of the panels on.

No need for the fancy schmancy anti-static tools.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Team SomeGuy wrote:
Or just touch anything exposed metal-wise. Like casing screws or on some machines the big metal bolt that holds one of the panels on.

No need for the fancy schmancy anti-static tools.


See, my house is carpetted, and I typically wear socks...

I would rather be safe than sorry

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I use an antistatic band when I'm inside a computer because of the simple fact that I move back and forth between the computer and other things/places when going foraging for tools and parts, and I prefer to be carefully grounded when I get back.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Atari2600 wrote:
Team SomeGuy wrote:
Or just touch anything exposed metal-wise. Like casing screws or on some machines the big metal bolt that holds one of the panels on.

No need for the fancy schmancy anti-static tools.


See, my house is carpetted, and I typically wear socks...

I would rather be safe than sorry


My place is carpeted too, though usually I'm not wearing socks unless it's absolutely freezing or I'm wearing shoes to do something.

Either way when I do internal work on my computer I regularly touch and exposed metal part to de-static myself.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Team SomeGuy wrote:
Atari2600 wrote:
Team SomeGuy wrote:
Or just touch anything exposed metal-wise. Like casing screws or on some machines the big metal bolt that holds one of the panels on.

No need for the fancy schmancy anti-static tools.


See, my house is carpetted, and I typically wear socks...

I would rather be safe than sorry


My place is carpeted too, though usually I'm not wearing socks unless it's absolutely freezing or I'm wearing shoes to do something.

Either way when I do internal work on my computer I regularly touch and exposed metal part to de-static myself.


Gotta find myself one of those, ztyping PC gets annoying sometimes, and have to investigate. Haven't ever built a PC myself before, just pretty much fiddling around it and replacing GPUs. So here's a question, does touching a powered PSU work as well as any other exposed metal other than the case itself?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Orac wrote:
I use an antistatic band when I'm inside a computer because of the simple fact that I move back and forth between the computer and other things/places when going foraging for tools and parts, and I prefer to be carefully grounded when I get back.

So do I, but I wear shoes and everything is in the basement with no carpet. No carpet ftw.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So, after all the crap, i'm left in even more crap.
Got a new mobo and cpu but still the same problem, i tested the psu with a older mobo, and it runs just fine.
The new mobo shows sings of live but thats it.
I'm so fed up with it i'll let a pro handle it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey Wess, are you saying it powers up, but no video feed or POST, or does it POST? (AKA does it make the good ol' beep noise?)

If not POSTing, did you verify the PCI cards (Including Video cards) are seated properly?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Time to look into the PC field... I have no idea what's going on here.

Anyway, I hope you were able / will be able to fix it. Would be a shame to have that replaced... From what I hear.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So uhm, Have you met the Mobo's power requirements as well as having enough for the other hardware? (Just to be sure)

Have you plugged in all the cables right?

Are you getting any Post messages?

Are you sure you installed all the hardware right?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Someone else is checking the comp now, i'll know what it is soon enough.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

!DOUBLE POST!

Solved.

Well it seems there was trouble on two fronts, the PSU "blew up" taking my mobo with it, seems the PSU is still working but not all of it, thus my confusion, i think investing in a voltmeter is a good option for future probs. Or let a pro look at it from day 1, but where is the fun in that Laughing

O well, with the bad comes something good, as i'm running an i7 pc now Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What i7 did you get? Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The Intel core I7 950 + Gigabyte X58-UD3R motherboard Very Happy

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