Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:37 am Post subject:
The Oscars 2011
So you may point out the pointlessness in giving awards to those in a profession that are already highly rewarded for what they do, but I look at the Oscars as a way of looking back at the previous year and discussing the films, actors, directors, screenwriters, and others who worked at creating memorable contributions to our culture and entertainment. That said, here's my predictions:
Best Film: The Social Network. While my favorite film is defiantly Inception, the two top runners are clearly TSC and the film about the king. While you might consider the only thing more vapid than a disability such as a stutter is social networking, I think that the movie with the contemporary setting will trump it out, unless it's a repeat of the year when Citizen Kane lost to....that british movie none of you have ever heard about.
Best Actor: The British Guy. The movie's isn't gonna walk away with nothing after 12 nominations. Jesse is too young, Franco although an excellent actor, is reading the winner, and the foreign guy is foreign. The dude could possibly win this, but I have yet to see True Grit.
Supporting Actor: Christain Bale. I may be a liitle biased here as The Fighter takes place in my hometown, but he made that movie what is was (ie a film about how shitty Lowell is (I'll see you on Appleton St)). Jeremey Renner has a strong bid as another guy from Mass, and he was excellent in the Hurt Locker last year, I think Bale will take it.
Best Actress: Natalie Portman. She made a movie about a balley make over a hundred million dollars. She's also Natalie ztyping Portman 'nuff said.
Supporting Actress: Hailee Steinfeld. So she's like 12, but there's 2 actresses from The Fighter, so thats a no go, and I have no respect for the King's Speech.
Director: Dave Fincher. This is another one between the King's Speech and the Social Network. I don't think they'll respect David O'Russel or Darren Aronofsky enough to give it them. And surprise surprise, Nolan didn't even get a nomination.
Adapted Screenplay: 127 Hours. A random pick, why not?
Original Screenplay: Inception. The screwed him countless times, he's got to win atleast once, right?
Animated Featured Film: Toy Story 3. It's already nominated for best picture, so you know they like it.
Art Direction: Inception. The CGI Wonderland? Not a chance, same with Harry Potter and the 100th sequel. True Grit and The King's Speech both bring with them historical settings, while Inception remains unique.
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I'd like to rant a bit.
The Oscars are just... blerg.
To make it worse, aside from Toy Story 3 (and maybe How to train your Dragon, I liked it) and Inception, there wasn't much really worth seeing - Knight and Day, The Tourist, Robin Hood, the remake of Clash of the Titans, Prince of Persia: The Sands of turning a game into a movie, Eat Pray Love, 2012, Green Zone and The Expendables, Grown Ups, The Other Guys, Dinner for Schmucks, Little Fockers, Get Him to the Greek and Hot Tub Time Machine all in one year? It makes 2010 look like a big hole where the good movies ought to be.
I mean, really. The American Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences watches a whole bunch of films and then decides which ones are best? It doesn't work. It discourages foreign films and anything controversial, and generally also discourages 'thinking' films too. As bad, even in a really bad year for films an Animated gem as is Pixar's record tends to be lumped only with "Best Animated Film" because animated films seem to be seen entirely as a "kiddie" thing
, despite The Incredibles being a masterful creation for both children and adults, who see entirely different things, and both Up and Wall.e being gold-plated story-telling brilliance.
I begin to wonder what the Oscars are really rewarding, Brilliance in the art and science of storytelling, or being within the trends which the current Academy like the most?
If the first, how did Braveheart win the best film Oscar? Why did Master and Commander not win over LOTR: Part 3?
If the second, why should we care who the Academy picked, since they're really just plucking stuff out of their collective asses?
I believe that these rules generally apply:
1) If it ain't English it ain't winning.
2) What?! Complex, nuanced plots in MY Oscars?
3) If you're not 18, you're not a proper actor and thus shouldn't get any awards.
4) Animated films can have their own category down at the kids table, while us adults watch a proper film.
5) No Superheroes
6) Don't even bother showing up if you're from a film about:
-The Mideast was a pretty OK war
-Abortion
-Euthanasia
7) Do show up if you're about:
-Poor people becoming better (IE: Not poor)
-The Mideast was a really bad war!
...Or if you were directed by someone/the star is in a minority.
8) If you as an actor have overcome some great personal problem, here's a shiny award. (Heath Ledger, I'm looking at you).
For the best film award: Giving it to Inception is the obvious choice, imo, the Kings Speech is pretty generic, and The Social Network is just so easily forgettable for not having anything really new to say.
Inception makes us question the world in the same way the Matrix did (and it didn't get best film, so go figure), but while the Matrix made us question the world as a whole, Inception is much more focussed on how Films influence how we see the world. I suggest that this premise is worth giving Inception best film for, since it is both enjoyable to watch and contributes something to the culture
(In a way that the other options really don't - King's Speech is a story about the past, True Grit is a fictional story about the past and adapted from a book, The Social Network is just about a guy and his website and thus hardly a great cultural pinnacle of achievement, and Harry Potter is just another Potter movie).
My plan: Hope that 2011 is a better year than 2010, retcon Toy Story 3 and Inception and anything important that happened in 2010 into 2011, remove 2010 from history entirely, sit back and relax. I know it's drastic, but it's for the good of cinema.
4) Animated films can have their own category down at the kids table, while us adults watch a proper film.
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127 Hours will probably never win anything, which is a damn shame. I'd give Mr. Boyle a best director Oscar for that. Maybe they'll give Best Actor because it's, you know, a mans struggle (although I don't think it deserves Best Actor). The King's Speech will probably win most because it's the Oscar's kinda films. QUICK_EDIT
there were a lot of really good movies wich deserved a lot more attention and if those who're nominees for an oscar get an oscar, those who are underrated and even not mentioned but good, should get 2 for that.
i feel sick that "the road" gets nothing, inception should also get more and "fish tank" was also a brilliant movie. i feel like the world doesn't have any sense of taste, shitty hollywood bubblegum. _________________ Hydraw Art on Facebook QUICK_EDIT
I agree with Orac on most of his points, but I'll add to the list of what isn't allowed to win:
1. Epics - After three films, they finally caved in and gave an Oscar to Lord of the Rings for Return of the King. Otherwise, the Academy typically avoids giving Oscars to epics. I wouldn't be surprised if Ben Hur would fail to get an Oscar if it were considered by today's Academy.
2. Musicals - Chicago is an exception, but for the most part, musicals will not win like they could in decades long past.
3. Science Fiction - Pretty obvious. Last year's loss of Avatar to that garbage, The Hurt Locker, was only the latest of a long string of science fiction films losing. (I have nothing against modern war films, but The Hurt Locker winning best picture? I've seen the film and found nothing commendable about it, the acting, etc.)
My only disagreements are:
1. There is a foreign film category, and foreign films do get nominated for Oscars. Interestingly, I think the Academy, for being American, has a certain favorable bias towards British films or actors. QUICK_EDIT
Foreign films getting a separate category is exactly my problem - if a film not made in the US is worthy of the best film award then it should get the best film award and shouldn't be lumped into a different category, imo.
The other, maybe larger, problem is that quantifying 'worthy' is difficult in such a subjective medium. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:16 pm Post subject:
Nyerguds wrote:
Dutchygamer wrote:
Nyerguds wrote:
*watches The Animatrix and Ghost In The Shell again*
Oh hey, I'll throw in a "children's" series too...
*watches Elfen Lied*
May I add Hellsing to that?
Only if it's Hellsing Ultimate
If you mean the OVA's, I meant those. The TV-series lack some of the... explicit stuff which makes the OVA better
Speaking of which, I need to get those as movies on my PC some time... QUICK_EDIT
Akira is one of my favourite action movies of all time. In relation to adult anime. But obviously you don't need explicit content to make it adult focused or to indeed be enjoyed by adults... QUICK_EDIT
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The Oscars 2011
