Man... prism technology, weaponized tesla coils (on TANKS no less), radiation guns that dissolve people, weather control devices, MIND CONTROL, and giant bomb-dropping airships that can take scores of missiles to shoot down are SOOOOO much more plausible.
If they have such antigravity technology why not use it on anything else? Why not a floating tesla coil, or floating tanks, or a floating hovercraft (hah). _________________ "Don't beg for things; Do it yourself or you'll never get anything." QUICK_EDIT
Man... prism technology, weaponized tesla coils (on TANKS no less), radiation guns that dissolve people, weather control devices, MIND CONTROL, and giant bomb-dropping airships that can take scores of missiles to shoot down are SOOOOO much more plausible.
If they have such antigravity technology why not use it on anything else? Why not a floating tesla coil, or floating tanks, or a floating hovercraft (hah).
Are two pixels seriously this important to you?
If so, it's been stated that the release iron curtain also has a floating ball. Not sure why you continue to debate that in this thread. Why not go start a new thread entitled "Technology discrepancies in the fictional world of Red Alert 2/Yuri's Revenge" and then run off and write your masters' thesis on it. _________________ PreRA2 Dev Lead QUICK_EDIT
It's kinda floating even in the first concept
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I have an idea.
The fate of all Beta mods has been that none of them were never finished, maybe we all the community should work on it all together instead.
I'm pretty sure everyone has worked on some beta assets at least once, and might still have some rare screenshots, videos or renderings or might know some facts about how something was in the beta.
I know its a super crazy idea but it might just work if we all work together.
If we search around there are already a lot of beta assets like
Tesla Tank, Paradrop Plane @ http://www.sleipnirstuff.com/forum/downloads.php?f=46
and of course there are a lot of assets here on PPM,
i have a copy of the long lost hydrofoil(sea scorpion) and german tank destroyer, the red heavy tank and IFV
I can provide a quite a few screenshots, make base assets and provide a few rare videos i recently found on my HDD yesterday, and of course i can make a lot of the assets like these:
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I can't say I care about most of the assets you posted, some are lacking details (tesla reactor icon) or are already in the game (cursors), but ztype.
That battle lab is very sexy. It needs blue lighting on it when ingame to give it a little extra glow. Other than that, unf. Very sexy. _________________ Victory! QUICK_EDIT
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I can't say I care about most of the assets you posted, some are lacking details (tesla reactor icon) or are already in the game (cursors), but ztype.
The cursors were different, to see how different you need to see the video they are in, they are a mix of TS style and RA2 shape.
Volgin wrote:
That battle lab is very sexy. It needs blue lighting on it when ingame to give it a little extra glow. Other than that, unf. Very sexy.
It's made from scratch, a lot more simple and faster than fixing the one in the screenshots.
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Most of this stuff was already done in the old PreRA2 release in any case, like that sidebar which has had several revisions released over the years already by Prime.
And none of them have accurate colors or the radar logo and animation, the soviet UI was light brownish not blue and i believe it used a different palette that i found in the mixes.
Currently approaching finals week so I've been spending most of my time studying and working on term papers.
I'm using the underground Soviet battle lab, though I hope to macgyver the soviet tower one in as an allied one, seeing as no pre-release graphics exist for the Allied battle lab.
Anyways, time to disappear for another week or so. :p _________________ PreRA2 Dev Lead QUICK_EDIT
I remember that website. "Icelan.zip" was a collection of pictures from red2.org - they are all available in my Red Alert 2 Beta Archives on the front page of PPM under the Red Alert 2 category. _________________ PreRA2 Dev Lead QUICK_EDIT
If anyone want's to give restoring the beta cameos a shot here are some of them
The BW one next to the colored Allied service depot is the soviet depot. _________________ Tiberian Dawn, Red Alert, Tiberian Sun ,Red Alert 2,Renegade, Command & Conquer 3,Tiberium and Tiberium Wars and Westwood related image & video archive
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If anyone want's to give restoring the beta cameos a shot here are some of them
The BW one next to the colored Allied service depot is the soviet depot.
That gap generator one was a custom one made by myself and VisceroidGod.
The cameos for PreRA2 will not have the rounded glassy effect on them. I had made an effort at one point to remove it from all of them, got about halfway through them, not sure where those went... _________________ PreRA2 Dev Lead QUICK_EDIT
I know that, i had a lot of textless/glossless ones but my collection is a mess still have to sort out 2GB, i just posted those for reference of most of the known ones
About the Gap, i thought it i had seen it before but added it just in case i was wrong.
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I know that, i had a lot of textless/glossless ones but my collection is a mess still have to sort out 2GB, i just posted those for reference of most of the known ones
About the Gap, i thought it i had seen it before but added it just in case i was wrong.
Anyone knows if its posible to re-enable the font based cameo text that can be turned off in the setttings? (like TS has)
Either ares or npatch re-enabled that at one point. Not sure which.
I know that, i had a lot of textless/glossless ones but my collection is a mess still have to sort out 2GB, i just posted those for reference of most of the known ones
About the Gap, i thought it i had seen it before but added it just in case i was wrong.
Anyone knows if its posible to re-enable the font based cameo text that can be turned off in the setttings? (like TS has)
Either ares or npatch re-enabled that at one point. Not sure which.
Nope it isn't either in rockpatch npatch or ares.
MadHQ remade the battlelab and its cameo and the Soviet sentry a long time ago.
http://zombapro.ppmsite.com/depot/buildshp1.html
I'l post the link to the battlelab if i find it
Found the radar anim i made almost 4 years ago
If you want you can use it.
Here is an example how i would do it today
I'd made my own logo and radar anim frames
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I know that, i had a lot of textless/glossless ones but my collection is a mess still have to sort out 2GB, i just posted those for reference of most of the known ones
About the Gap, i thought it i had seen it before but added it just in case i was wrong.
Anyone knows if its posible to re-enable the font based cameo text that can be turned off in the setttings? (like TS has)
Either ares or npatch re-enabled that at one point. Not sure which.
Nope it isn't either in rockpatch npatch or ares.
MadHQ remade the battlelab and its cameo and the Soviet sentry a long time ago.
http://zombapro.ppmsite.com/depot/buildshp1.html
I'l post the link to the battlelab if i find it
Found the radar anim i made almost 4 years ago
If you want you can use it.
Here is an example how i would do it today
I'd made my own logo and radar anim frames
Total work time besides the base logo shape 30 minutes LOL
As far as I'm concerned, MadHQ is one of the most arrogant, talentless modders that has ever been. I've seen better ideas come out of a fat baby's post-mealtime shit.
I made a radar animation a long time ago myself - it's in my PreRA2 mix. Basically the retail animation. I like the custom one you made, looks pretty nifty. _________________ PreRA2 Dev Lead QUICK_EDIT
Can you make a list of the things that have been done,and what still needs to be done?
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Thanks.
Brian did you ever look at the commented out parts of the ini's,from what i understand everyone always deletes them to make the ini's smaller ,they contain some beta code as well.
Beta White House.
Two times bigger, makes the final version look like pile of crap
Anyone wants to fix the colors,
and the flag pole,
and make the flag anim,
and fix the shadows,
and get rid of the bushes,
and fix the rendering bugs
and make a damaged version.
These algorithms work extremely well on TS buildings (they look almost like actually re-rendered from WW's assets) and RA2 shadows, but fail to reconstruct proper edge and bright pixels for RA2 detailed buildings
I used XBR x2 <nobend>
https://code.google.com/p/2dimagefilter/downloads/list
Used the same tool to downscale it
Beta
Final upscaled with XBR x2, downscaled to pre-release size by 62,3 procent with triangular
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Stop saving things as JPG! hahaha use PNG there's no need for all that ugly compression!
Those are lossless JPG, anything thats blurred is the consequences of giving EA's press employees photoshop and those are the original files from EA's SERVERS
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Stop saving things as JPG! hahaha use PNG there's no need for all that ugly compression!
Those are lossless JPG, anything thats blurred is the consequences of giving EA's press employees photoshop and those are the original files from EA's SERVERS
I never use PNG's
I'm talking about the images you're posting in the thread. There's a ton of JPG blurring and artifacting. PNG is much much better. _________________ PreRA2 Dev Lead QUICK_EDIT
Stop saving things as JPG! hahaha use PNG there's no need for all that ugly compression!
Those are lossless JPG, anything thats blurred is the consequences of giving EA's press employees photoshop and those are the original files from EA's SERVERS
I never use PNG's
I'm talking about the images you're posting in the thread. There's a ton of JPG blurring and artifacting. PNG is much much better.
I just finished the damaged verison, when i uploaded it picasa saved it in JPG WTF GOOGLE PNG's WERE WORKING YESTERDAY
Lol its working again WTF
K, repaced those retarded JPG links
Ignore the yellowness and shadow that needs to be fixed
tomsons26lv wrote:
Can you make a list of the things that have been done,and what still needs to be done?
Also can you finally send me the stuff you have so i can check for anything that you don't and send it to you?
Figured out whats up with those jpg's using the upload button on top sometimes uploads a jpg using the add photo button uploads the original image
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Don't know if you have noticed but The Statue of Liberty had a beta version as well.
damaged version is a 5 minute hackjob
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Ok time to annoy the frogs legs eaters
Right now all i have done is fixed the arc shadow on the right side
Liberty base
Does the star shape at the back look correct?
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It's supposed to be smaller - look in the mixes for the base, it's higher quality and a tiny bit smaller.
Its in horrible almost 8 bit quality
Besides that the shape you see here is not your usual RA2 dimetric rendering
V3
Ever noticed this?
All the cutscenes that have ingame pic are beta screenshots
Also the academy is different
Not sure if those are the only ones tho
Upscaled soviet one,
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looks like the final one, but thats def the old Soviet radar dish.
It does not really align with a scaled down final one, what ever it is it probably looked horrible, i made a underground and final hybrid, it was so horrible that i wanted to poke my eyes out.
As for the radar dish i think i will try to restore the small dish 360 anim now
Edit found a screen of that battlelab, it completely aligns with the one in the fmv
All the 360 radar anim frames i have compiled so far
Update on that, it seems the dishes are slightly different the one on the right seems more tilted, the reason why i need the 360 anim is that i want to check if any of them match the release anim, i will still try an idea i have to remake it.
I leave you with 2 lol's
Was there at least one thing that was left untouched by Photoshop?
Cameos: (more posted as i make them)
Textless
Foreground-less (Will probalby release a pack of them, it depends how mutch of them i make)
Finally figured out how to properly texture the Tesla cameo i made, i facepalmed my self when i discovered such an obvious and simple way
Made the Soviet barracks with the same method, background custom made since its not possible to recover a usable image from a burry video, looks better than the original BG, it even has a frozen lake
Added radar cameo,besides the BG remade as is in original no idea what's that shadow further near the back, probably a tree, go ask WW
Remade the final nuke silo cameo that was in the beta
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If I remember correctly, a lot of the (at least infantry) cameo renders were on the old RA2 website in the units section
Just small renders from the cameos and not the cameos themselves
They may also be in the manual? Albeit black and white.
I tried using wayback machine (www.archive.org) to find them but only got as far as the main RA2 page (around 2002). The menu was done entirely in flash with no HTML option even available and flash does not show in way back machine so couldnt get to the unit/inf pages.
Check page 33 onwards, infantry sections, these are the renders I am talking about.
They were on the RA2 website in higher quality and in colour _________________ QUICK_EDIT
If I remember correctly, a lot of the (at least infantry) cameo renders were on the old RA2 website in the units section
Just small renders from the cameos and not the cameos themselves
They may also be in the manual? Albeit black and white.
I tried using wayback machine (www.archive.org) to find them but only got as far as the main RA2 page (around 2002). The menu was done entirely in flash with no HTML option even available and flash does not show in way back machine so couldnt get to the unit/inf pages.
Check page 33 onwards, infantry sections, these are the renders I am talking about.
They were on the RA2 website in higher quality and in colour
Useless,those are just higher res versions of the ingame infantry, besides we have quite a few of the HQ versions of the unit cameos its just a matter of once we fix them up,
even if RA2 website ever had any cameos it seems ea has requested the web archive to redirect any links to http://www.ea.com/cnc, they can't even be accessed anymore(worked 2 months ago) , i had checked out the site some time ago and iirc it mostly had just WW's team photos and of the people that were atending the public tests
The cameos of the units we don't have are
Allies:
spy
Chrono legionnaire
Allied Engineer
Tank destroyer
Rocketeer
Chrono Commando
Sniper
Tanya
Harrier/or Black Eagle not sure witch one i have
howitzer
Light tank
Psi Commando
forgot one Psi something(trooper?) was in the first soviet mission that was demoed at E3, i found the map DeeZire restored that is hidden in the mixes, basically Yuri version of Tanya C4 and everything but primary attack was mind control.
Soviets:
Terrorist
Crazy Ivan
Desolator
Yuri
Attack Dog
Apocalype tank
Demo truck
Flak Trooper
Chrono Ivan
Yuri/Yuri Prime
Tesla Tank
Howitzer(it seems both sides had it)
RP wrote:
Also, tomsons26lv, extremely nice job you're doing here. It seems you're already putting in more effort in prerelease RA2 than Symphonic.
Brian is really busy with work, he has not even had the time to check out my WCD damaged opening anim or the WCD cameos on skype
Here is a list of all the buildings and support power cameos we don't have
Soviets:
Ore Refinery
War Factory
Naval Shipyard
Battle Lab
Cloning Vats
Nuclear Reactor
Iron Curtain
Flak cannon
Fortress Walls
Allies:
Power Plant
Ore Refinery
Airforce Command Headquarters
War Factory
Naval Shipyard
Battle Lab
Ore Purifier
Spy Satellite Uplink
Chronosphere
Fortress Walls
Prism Tower
Grand Cannon
Pillbox(have the cameo but needs to be fixed)
Support powers:
Soviets:
Iron Curtain
Paratroopers
A huge blob(maybe an IC cameo)
Allies:
Paratroopers
Spy sat
Chronosphere
Wait, the unit renderings in that manual might be useful after all i have the colored ones,some of them are in the same pose that the ones in the blurry screenshots i have,i just need to get rid of the cartoonish style.
Edit found them not sure if those are all that i have tho i think i had some others don't really remember
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You have them all, although I have a different render for the Chrono Legionnaire.
Mine is more like the score screen one.
Turns out YR only has ingame SHP's cut out and paste in the manual. _________________
Heres some of the Cameos I've been restoring/fixing that you mentioned just now (I Couldn't be bothered to post most of them as you mentioned they aren't PreRelease Per say... But these are some of which i removed the glass effect)
Light Tank is supposedly an M60 Patton... (Might need to touch up the sky since it gets horribly converted when on the Cameo Palette) _________________ ~ Excelsior ~ QUICK_EDIT
I have the feeling you haven't seen all the videos out there. You can already complete the radar tower animation, and see several other things with just this video:
You have them all, although I have a different render for the Chrono Legionnaire.
Mine is more like the score screen one.
Turns out YR only has ingame SHP's cut out and paste in the manual.
Nope, i had the demo truck and a few more.
@Atomic_Noodles
A lot of them look really good,only but the Allied barracks, the spy, the rhino are beta stuff.
The easiest way to fix the text overlay brightness is make a new white layer the same shape as the text overlay set it to color dodge, vivid light or overlay and tweak the opacity, but that might only work correctly on WW's cameos, basically my idea is invert the colors that modified the cameo in the first place and combine them properly, fix a few things and you will get a glossless cameo.
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I have the feeling you haven't seen all the videos out there. You can already complete the radar tower animation, and see several other things with just this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g86DYnyRBmg&list=UUJVwAx5YIrklMwO_j5x2wqw&index=7
Also, for the people who say the fence around the US flag here is impossible:
You can see here it was. Look at the bottem side of the picture.
I had that video 1 year ago, that video is from the Collectors Edition DVD and is downscaled by 35?(maybe more) percent and the quality is messed up with video editing,as for the nuke White House map i have actually played it after restoring the e31 map the fence are there iirc
Those gamestar videos were posted a few pages back
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