Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:54 am Post subject:
Sniper: Fireing when Prone only EDIT: Crashes, .MIX attached
So i´m trying to create a sniper who only fires when prone.
I made a working Slavick/Elite Cadre Unit copy and tried to modify the Art.INI "Infantry Sequences" to make it fire only when prone.
My idea was simple, Copy an existing Sequence,modify and rename it and add the new Sequence under the Sequence=XXX path that Infantry Units Have, example: [E1Sequence].
Unfortunaetly, that doesnt work.
TS/FS always uses E1Sequence for infantry, no matter what i type in ART.INI.
If i modify the E1Sequence to make units firing only prone it works fine, but i only want ONE unit to do so.
Ideas how make it possible? Last edited by Gribbel on Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:44 pm; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:07 pm Post subject:
AFAIK, this can't be done. But you can change the infantry sequence around in the INI. Or in the sniper SHP file and move the standing firing to prone firing.
Though it will not throw them into prone, which requires them to be under for to actually go prone (which will mean your sniper will stand if you switch the sequence in the SHP file) _________________ Mod Leader and founder of World Domination
I don't think the sequences are hardcoded. That would be ridiculous and stupid. Maybe something went wrong. Check your codes again.
I have a suggestion but this is just a wild guess. Open the infantry's sequence and change FireUp to -1. Theoretically, that would disable it from firing when standing up. SuperJoe did something similar for not firing when prone. And I assume it needs to be in prome frame first before attacking. _________________
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[E1] is a rather precarious thing in TS, much like a few other units. TS is a massive hack and there are plenty of massive hard-coded elements.
For what you want to accomplish, create a new art entry for the infantry, give it a specific new sequence, and that should solve your problems. TS is not hardcoded to use specific sequences, as is proven in various mods released for the old engine. QUICK_EDIT
It's quite simple. First copy the entire sequence which is currently used by your unit, rename its ID to something unique; let's go with SniperSequence for now. Then replace the values after FireUp= with the values that are currently entered after FireProne= and you're done.
Don't forget to actually assign this new sequence to your infantry however, for example:
Code:
[SLAV]
Sequence=SniperSequence
Take in mind that if you changed this sequence for [SLAV] in Art.ini, any infantry in Rules.ini that uses Image=SLAV (or [SLAV] as its ID with no Image= key present) will then use this new sequence.
The sequence will not be used if your infantry uses [SLAV] as its ID but uses a different image (for example Image=UMAGON).
Edit:
@m7: from what I can tell he's not editing [E1] to begin with, so that shouldn't be the issue. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
It's quite simple. First copy the entire sequence which is currently used by your unit, rename its ID to something unique; let's go with SniperSequence for now. Then replace the values after FireUp= with the values that are currently entered after FireProne= and you're done.
Don't forget to actually assign this new sequence to your infantry however, for example:
AFAIK i did that. AFAIK.
Ok step by step:
I Have a new Unit, ID=[SNIPER] in Rules.INI AND ART.INI.
Its Basicallly a copy of [SLAV] and works fine ingame.
In ART.INI i create a new Infantry Sequence. I just Copy E1Sequence, give it a new ID like:
I know for a fact that newly added Sequences work perfectly fine; I only have very few sequences that use the original IDs left in my mod after all I'm surely not just imagining that all infantry animations are functioning exactly the way they should
How did you get your [SNIPER] infantry to look like SLAV? Did you actually make a copy of slav.shp or did you enter Image=SLAV under the sniper's code in Rules.ini? I'm going to guess that it's the latter and as I explained before, adding Image= to an infantry in Rules.ini will make that infantry use the sequence of the infantry image you referred to; SLAV in this case (and as you know, SLAV uses Sequence=E1Sequence).
So if you are indeed using Image=SLAV in Rules.ini, you'll either have to change the Sequence that's specified under [SLAV] in Art.ini (this will then obviously also make the normal Slavick/Elite Cadre infantry crouch whenever they fire) or make a copy of slav.shp, rename it to sniper.shp, insert it into ecache02.mix and then use Image=SNIPER instead (or indeed leave out that key if the ID is the same as the image). _________________ QUICK_EDIT
You have to extract slav.shp from conquer.mix in tibsun.mix. Then rename it to sniper.shp and put it in say ecache90.mix and place the mix file in the base TS folder.
In rules.ini, under [SNIPER] don't give Image=SLAV. In art.ini, keep new entries above [Movies] section. QUICK_EDIT
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Sniper: Fireing when Prone only EDIT: Crashes, .MIX attached
Maybe something went wrong. Check your codes again.
thanks for helping me 
