Weapon Delay

Elite_Pirate

Hi.

Is there a way to make weapons delayed?
If I wanted to make the mind control weapons take 1 second before they fire, how would I go about it?

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Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

on units, most likely impossible
on buildings, try a charged weapon like tesla coil/obelisk.

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Elite_Pirate · Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:03 pm Post subject:

Yeah, shame about that. I already used the public psychic tower animation to make it delayed. Greatly helps making mind control more balanced.

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Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

on units without a turret you can try the following.
Give the unit Turret=yes (but no graphic) and TurretSpins=yes.
This way it takes a while before the spinning turret is facing towards the target, thus adds a slight delay.
Though the delay is inconsistent, since the turret spins constantly and can be sometimes already instantly facing the target and sometimes take like 337,5° to rotate.

Maybe Gattling logic can help you add a delay, but i'm not experienced in RA2 modding and Gattling+MindControl could exclude each other.

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PillBox20 · Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:28 pm Post subject:

On my Psi weapons I changed the projectile. It had Inviso=yes, I switched it
to Inviso=no. It may require ROT to be set to very big value. It has small
delay like 15-20 frames. Works for me.

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Elite_Pirate · Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:23 pm Post subject:

Pillbox could you give me an example projectile code for what you use? Sounds like a neat solution

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Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

Sounds like he uses an ordinary homing projectile like missiles, just without any image.
So the time it takes for the projectile to travel to the target is giving the delay.

Though i think there could be some bad sideeffects.
e.g.
-what if the projectile misses the target or hits a different target?

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PillBox20 · Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:48 pm Post subject:

Never happened to me, so far. Here are the weapon and projectile I use:

Code:

[MindControl]
Damage=1;Number of mind control links
ROF=200
Range=7
Projectile=PsychicControl
Speed=100
Warhead=Controller
;Report=YuriMindControl
Anim=YURICNTL
FireOnce=yes

Code:

; Used by mind control
[PsychicControl]
Image=YURBLANK ; an invisible missile with a trailer
;ROT=100
Inviso=no;yes
Image=none
;Shadow=no
;Proximity=yes
;Ranged=yes

I don't say that there are no side effects. Still, so far, I haven't found any. Cool

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ApolloTD · Commander **Joined**: 19 Nov 2003

Nice coding, you defined Image= twice. Razz

PillBox20 · Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:06 pm Post subject:

Wow! XD Don't mind that, it still works! Silly me....

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Mig Eater · Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:52 am Post subject:

If you are using Ares you can use a PreImpactAnim= to delay the weapon.

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PillBox20 · Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:13 pm Post subject:

True, if you use invisible projectile, an invisible (empty) animation would fit, too.

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Graion Dilach · Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:25 pm Post subject:

Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:

Gattling logic can help you add a delay

This is the best answer in OP case. Although it'll need Ares - MindControl weapons only work on Primary/Weapon1 in plain YR - this'll work exactly the way it should.

Using PreImpactAnim changes the weapon from hitscan to area-of-effect, and MindControl does not support CellSpread. It works okay for casual weapons though.

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Elite_Pirate · Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:51 am Post subject:

I don't use ARES since I like saving. Thanks for the suggestions though.

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