AI Attacking Mind Controlled Civilan Units

MustaphaTR

I'm making remakes of RA2 Missions in YR. When tring to add Operation: Big Apple (3. Soviet Mission), i saw that ai is attacking School Buses if i capture them. This wasn't happening in RA2 and i was using them to enter Engineers to enemy base. They are still Insignificant=yes. What may cause it and how can i solve?

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MustaphaTR · Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:11 pm Post subject:

It looks like it is not happening if bus is really mine. I captured it with Conscript. (Thanks to Ares' Kill Driver logic.) AI isn't attacking this one. Problem is about Mind Control.

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AlexB · Commander **Joined**: 31 May 2010 **Location**: Germany

No bug. Mind-controlled (permanent or temporary) units are considered enemies even if Insignificant=yes.

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Allen · Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:58 am Post subject:

Must be a chaneg done to YR as in RA2 they don't attack the Mind Controlled School Buses.

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Darkstorm · Commander **Joined**: 20 Jan 2008 **Location**: Texas

Maybe some small tag for Ares to implement at some point, since it sounds kind of an interesting thing to have.

MustaphaTR · Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:51 am Post subject:

As Darkstorm says. A new tag on [AI] or unit itself may be useful. I really want restore same situation in RA2 Mission. This is an important part of mission, IMO.

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AlexB · Commander **Joined**: 31 May 2010 **Location**: Germany

AIIgnoreObviousAttack=yes?

It sounds like a good idea like in the 5th allied Red Alert mission where a spy has to get into a War Factory to steal a truck. For missions this should be achievable already using two houses with different Allies= settings. For multiplayer games, it sounds like a feature that would be nice to have; and then tournament maps would have to be edited to remove civilian vehicles alltogether to not give a side an unfair advantage.

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Allied General · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:17 pm Post subject:

This is a really minor thing that isn't worth "fixing"

Making a suggestion for a new tag takes 5 seconds but the Ares coding can take significantly longer and it might introduce harmful or annoying bugs.

Also if a random civilian bus was running towards a military base, do you really think they wouldn't stop it?

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MasterHaosis · General **Joined**: 01 Nov 2010 **Location**: Serbia

AlexB wrote:

AIIgnoreObviousAttack=yes?

It sounds like a good idea like in the 5th allied Red Alert mission where a spy has to get into a War Factory to steal a truck.

Exactly. I support this idea. I also want to stalk at Ai with Yuri, when capture neutral animal or civilian, or even car. it would be cool feature

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Millennium · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:44 pm Post subject:

I think it's just an inconsistency when captured (driven, hijacked) vehicles are still ignored, but MC'd vehicles get attacked. If anything, a hijacker pointing a gun at the bus driver's head, or a Conscript driving the bus, should be dead obvious giveaways that something weird is going on, as opposed to the slightly queer look on the face of a MC'd bus driver.
If MC provokes AI into seeing the bus as a threat, the others should, too (although I concede implementing that will be tricky for Driver case).

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MasterHaosis · General **Joined**: 01 Nov 2010 **Location**: Serbia

I found solution, at least for animals.
I wanted to mind control animal with no weapons for stalking purposes, so I can send it to AI,( just in that Allied mission where you need to infiltrate Soviet Battle Lab to locate Nukes, you freed several cows to stalk and reveal shroud)., and finally I succeed it!

[COW]
LegalTarget=no

Then you will get ,,No Attack" cursor over cow, but still you can manually attack it, (using force fire) thus mind control it. Once you capture it, send it to enemy and see results

As you can see, cow is being mind controlled, but AI is not attacking it. XD
Still, I haven't test this on Buses or vehicles, but should not be different than this.

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MustaphaTR · Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:25 pm Post subject:

Thanks, MasterHaosis. It worked.

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MasterHaosis · General **Joined**: 01 Nov 2010 **Location**: Serbia

Oh and Darkstorm is pleasant with this.
You are welcome guys, I am glad that I could help you. I also needed that feature to work for myself.

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