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Otuken
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 8:11 pm    Post subject:  Mixed Questions Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

1) Preventing infantry units -which attack both ground and air- to chase enemy air units when they enter thier guard range but keeping this ability for enemy ground units when they enter their guard range.

2) Making Y.Prime instantly destoy enemy structures when mindcontrol them.

3) Making units get in transport units simultaneusly not one by one

4) Starting with Construction Yard only not MCV in skirmish.

5) Repair ability of neutral garrisoned structures without engineers.

6) Adding third weapon.

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Mig Eater
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

1) Not possible

2) Just give him a weapon that blows up buildings instead of mindcontrolling them.

3) Not possible

4) There is an Ares feature that does this.

5) Add ClickRepairable=yes to civilian structures.

6) There are workaround to adding a third weapon using gattaling logic (search the forum for a tutorial). You can also use the Ares initial passengers logic to add dummy infantry with their own weapons to a unit.

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TAK02
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: Mixed Questions Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Otuken wrote:
Preventing infantry units -which attack both ground and air- to chase enemy air units when they enter thier guard range but keeping this ability for enemy ground units when they enter their guard range.

There was something that achieved something similar.
https://www.modenc.renegadeprojects.com/CanApproachTarget

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Otuken
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

My initiates attack both ground and air and undortunately it doesn't work probably it still doesn't recognized as AA unit.

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Otuken
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Is there any way to making AI control infanty units such like how we don't need to deal with slaves?

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Mig Eater
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nope, slave logic is unique to that specific unit/action. Closest you could probably get is an aircraft carrier with planes that fly on the ground & look like infantry etc.

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Otuken
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Is there any way switching mod of units from one to another during the game such as;

Stabil: Unit never moves, attack only when enemy enters his guard range.

Defensive: Unit chases enemy when they enter their guard range but comes back if enemy went beyong their guard range

Offensive: Unit chases enemy and never stop if enemy enters guard range.

If it is not possible then is there any way to make units defensive via rulesmd? I don't want them to chase enemy till the end on the other hand I don't want them to stay immobile.

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Lin Kuei Ominae
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

select a unit and press g for guard mode. then it will move a bit towards incoming threats, attack them, and at then end drive back to the cell where it came from.
That's basic C&C logic ever since Tiberian Dawn.

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Stabil: - CanApproachTarget=no, see the Mirage Tank.

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Otuken
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:
select a unit and press g for guard mode. then it will move a bit towards incoming threats, attack them, and at then end drive back to the cell where it came from.
That's basic C&C logic ever since Tiberian Dawn.


Can't I do it default for every units via editing rulesmd instead of pressing g for every units?

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TAK02
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Otuken wrote:
Lin Kuei Ominae wrote:
select a unit and press g for guard mode. then it will move a bit towards incoming threats, attack them, and at then end drive back to the cell where it came from.
That's basic C&C logic ever since Tiberian Dawn.

Can't I do it default for every units via editing rulesmd instead of pressing g for every units?

rules:
Code:
[IQ]
GuardArea=0

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silverwind
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Also, DefaultToGuardArea=yes on the units you want to default to this behaviour. Changing the IQ value is overkill, IMO.

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E1 Elite
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

On pre-placed units in the map, Guard and Area Guard etc. modes can be set. For AI, those also can be set as missions after creation. Human players have the ability to change the mode of the units.

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Otuken
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've tried all combinations, seems like there is no default option for units hitting/chasing enemy when they enter their guard range and coming back to the original place.

Any way setting up anti air mobile units hit and run mode against kirovs?

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cxtian39
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't think it remembers the original place

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silverwind
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Otuken wrote:
I've tried all combinations, seems like there is no default option for units hitting/chasing enemy when they enter their guard range and coming back to the original place.

Any way setting up anti air mobile units hit and run mode against kirovs?


Give their AA weapons a MinimumRange=

I think 3 or 4 will be good values for a weapon with 6 or 7 range. Should work as long as they are faster than the Kirovs.

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Otuken
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Not sure why the minimum range code didn't work. Must something to to with projectile or something.

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silverwind
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

it might be calculated in 3D, like normal range is. If so, you'll want to increase the value. Try different values, to see what works.

Also, try the code on a flak track, and see if it make a difference.

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Otuken
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Minimum range for AA didn't work for flak track either.

Also not sure why doesn't floating disc chase enemy air units despite having guard range unlike anti air land units.

Any way to make Yuri Prime came from Cloning vat only?

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silverwind
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I guess then minimum range wasn't meant to work on AA weapons.

From what I recall, the units that chase aircraft only do so until they can get 1 (ONE) shot off. They don't persist. It's not the ideal behavour on any thing. AFAIK, the floating disk does the same thing as long as it's not on an attacking mission (the AI only builds it on attacking missions). If you really wanna test this behaviour, include one in a base defence team.

EDIT: You may be able to hack Yuri Prime to only come out of the vats with Ares, although that particular case is not what the logic is intended for
https://ares-developers.github.io/Ares-docs/new/buildings/factoriesandcloning.html

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