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Culverin!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:47 pm    Post subject:  Type 90 MBT
Subject description: Not a Leopard 2A4 (updated)
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Some of artistic license taken of course - the real-life tank had only 1 machine gun on the turret roof, set right in the center. This voxel on the other hand adds an automatic grenade launcher to the mix, while questionably mounted both its roof top weapons on the optics.

Besides the weaponry, this voxel may have better turret armor than its real life counterpart, as can be seen from that thick mantlet and outlines for turret side armor.

Thanks to Creator for the great choice of color and some parts that I shamelessly copied from. Please don't shame me for this - I'm a fan of Creator's works, honest.

Edit: A small update with better color contrast for the roof and side skirts, and with G-E advice, accentuated decals for the side skirts. My apology to anyone who has already downloaded the previous version.



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Most noticeable change? More black plates on the hull front
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My mistake was giving the side panels too little of color contrast; this is now improved.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thank you, now I have a true heavy tank for PF. Look better than the crap one I made. With gattling logic 3 weapons should be possible.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Pretty clean design, although I would try to use normals to accentuate the paneling so as to look less slab-sided in most facings.

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Culverin!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

@G-E

Do you have any suggestion for auto normals setting? My reliance on influence auto normals without any adjustment thus far has produced sharply contrasting normals like on this tank.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

voxel is not rendered to ra2 scaling!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Take a look at this to understand better what I mean...



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Culverin!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

@G-E

Thanks for the help. Although this is kind of missing the point, extending voxels where the decals are is indeed a good solution to make them more visible. I can clearly see the number 90 on your edited hull, so I think I will keep this in mind in the future.

That being said, while this solution does fixed the normals problem, as can be seen with the edited voxel showing more accentuated side skirts, it does not do away with the excessive lightening on highlighted sides. I did mess around a bit with auto normals, as seen in the screenshot below, and via setting smooth level to 16 times the contrast level, I was able to reduce excessive lightening.



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

When you get into painting with shape rather than colour, you can do all kinds of tricks to highlight dull objects without much effort, and then you can use colour to further accentuate or blend those features.

The beauty of normals centric texturing is that proper normals aren't grainy, every shade created by the smoothed normals matches the neighbours well. Normals can also be used to create sharpness where there otherwise isn't any.

Hopefully you'll be able to get away from arbitrary hatching, single pixel details and flat surfaces to make really good voxels Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

@G-E

Thanks again Rating 9 out of 10 . While I must say I couldn't be following your advice that closely Confused , considering my principality and other voxel artists whose works are my inspirations, I'll see your methods applied should I see fit.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hehe, nice

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