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Why are the Juggernaut's [AITriggerTypes] Techlevel 3?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:58 pm    Post subject:  Why are the Juggernaut's [AITriggerTypes] Techlevel 3?
Subject description: A WW's mistake?
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As we know, the Jugger has TechLevel=6.

But, if we look at the Jugger's Triggers in AIFS.ini, they all have TechLevel 3, which is the same TechLevel of the Jugger's '2ndPrerequisite' building, the GARADR.

Example:
Code:
07CC6E00-G=M_GDI juggernaut pool,09E4FE60-G,<all>,3,1,GARADR,010000... ; 3 instead of 6


This is inconsistent with the coding of the Triggers in AI.ini, where the TechLevels of AITriggerTypes match those of the unit they control, not the building which unlocks said units.

For instance, a Trigger for the STNK has a TechLevel of 8, like that of the STNK, and not 6, like the NATECH which unlocks it.

Here:

Code:
0859C0E0-G=E_Nod vehicle attack 3,07D739D0-G,<all>,8,-1,NATECH,010000... ; trigger for the Stealth Tank (TechLevel=8). Notice the 8.



Is there a reason for this? It seems to me these differencies wouldn't affect the functionality. But what about the AI?

Looking at the Jugger case above - does the AI, on a TechLevel 3 FS game, summon TL3 Triggers for TL6 Juggers which are therefore unbuildable?


Or more in general:

If a game map allows TechLevel = x, and a Unit has TechLevel > x, Does the AI know beforehand to ignore the Triggers of that Unit? Or does it waste its cycles trying to perform them?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Indeed E1, but I've found a possible explanation.

In the Firestorm campaign, mission fsgdi05, there are a couple of Juggers declared as TechLevel=0.

Now, I've never played FS, yet. But if there are AI-controlled Juggers in that mission, and there seem to be, that would be the reason for the TL3 Triggers in AIFS I guess.

Ingeniously enough, those Triggers don't have any consequence on the Jugger's prerequisites on skirmish maps (because the Juggers need a Radar in the first place to be built, and that's a TL3 building).

Still, it makes the AI waste time with Jugger Triggers on TL3-5 maps.

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