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tyrane
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 9:33 pm    Post subject:  wouldnt it be cool Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

if they put Generals or Renegade on XBOX?

that would rock

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

does it support a mouse? If not then no, i dont think it would, using a pad is clumsy the games just dont work well on consoles.

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tyrane
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i still think it would work for Renegade doin like a replica of Halo controls for Generals they could do the C&C controls from the playstation ones or sumthin

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hellfire
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ya games like generals shouldn't be on consoles.....anyone remember red alert and I think it was dawn or something from the tiberian series both were fairly badly done. Renegade would be cool on a console though

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yeah, FPS games work well on a console, strategy ones don't, that's just the way it is.

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TS
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Dude Generals would rock on xbox, no damn video card or ram upgrading... Thats what I hate about Computers. I dont have the money to upgrade anything. No errors poping up etc. No hassel. Just pop in the game and your set. And with the Xbox's graphics I think Renegade would also be cool Smile

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Banshee
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Damn! Gamecube for all of ya!!! C&C 95 owned on N64 and Generals would own in GameCube! The rest is trash Very Happy!!!

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kopaka649
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yep, i know how you fell i just dont have the money and time to tweak my comp's performance. I have a p4 1.5 ghz and its hell slow after the 20 gigs of crap i got from the internet on it(no not porno). With xbox graphics renegadere would kik total ass!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

lol, just find a old xobx in the dumb, and take the shit outa that, its basicaly a comp of its own.

u ever read on the botom os side of xbox, or the manual that it says sumting like, warrenty will be void is product is desembled and salvaged

something liek that

btw, stratergy games do suck on consoles, Renegade would b onyl decent game for console

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Banshee
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Old times of SNES where it had a mouse for Mario Paint... lol... you guys remember that? That mouse rocked, but was so huge...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah I remember that. Mario paint still is fun to play.

I think they can make good strategy games for console, but only if they put real hard effort into it.

Gamcubes ok.. But They have no good games comming out lately. Accept maybe te new Zelda game coming out Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ok theres a few thigns you people are confused about...

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ya games like generals shouldn't be on consoles.....anyone remember red alert and I think it was dawn or something from the tiberian series both were fairly badly done. Renegade would be cool on a console though


Your fuckign psyco kid for one the game that was released on N64 owned ever game out at that date thats what drew me into CnC and yea it was Tiberium Dawn. Also Red Alert came out on PS1 and was also bad ass liek i said your confused somewhere...

Neways FPS OWN on Consoles but computer FPS just ztyping suck..in my eyes...

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Gamcubes ok.. But They have no good games comming out lately. Accept maybe te new Zelda game coming out


ztype Zelda they got Resident Evil comming out on Gamecube...ztyping traitors who making resident evil...Res Evil should be on PS2 after all Res Evil Began on Playstations for crying out loud..

And for MOST of the systems out, PS2 and Xbox, they have the support and equipment for keyboards etc for online play so that could be added intot he game so you would have to have the keyboard in order to play etc...so strat games could be palyed on Consoles easily and with out all the damn lagg etc of computers because like me and TS we just aint got the cash for new Comps or upgrades to our existing one Sad

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

1 of the main reasons why the artn no new games for ps2 and game cube is cos that gay mother ztyper bill gates is stealing all the decent games for that piece of shit he calls a xbox

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hellfire
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

personally Id get an Xbox mainly cause it's got the game's. And for those games for Ps and 64 I didnt like em cause it's hard to use a control for that kinda stuff. If either Ps2 or xbox brought out a mouse then I'd play strat games on them and prolly throw out my comp which is stuck below 10igs and 500mhz.

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Tratos
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The PS2 already supports just about any piece of USB hardware you can imagine.

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hellfire
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

didnt realize that.

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UmmErrKane
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I will always hail computers as gods. Console games are good if you don't like to think, and just want to play a quick game and shoot some crap. Personally, I find intelligent games fun, and intellgent games are extremely rare on consoles. Not to mention Console games have no mods or patches, so you never get new features or free mods. Hell, look at NWN. NWN would never work on a console, because they're constantly adding things to it (Not to mention DMing on an Xbox would be a pain in the ass).

Also, FPS games are ONLY good on a computer. I could never get the hang of those damn controllers. It's mouse and keyboard all the way for me, baby Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

true, games r easier to control onn PC but id prefer em on console, since u can take em to a mates house and play them, or u could be retarded as take ur monitor and tower,base



(XboX is like base since its so ztyping massive)

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

In PC you can take your mates too...in LAN Twisted Evil. Depending on the location of the pcs, it's harder to see someone else's view. PCs also allows you and your friend play it in Internet. The only advantage of video game is that the game doesnt have internal error or any sort of terrible crash like PC...

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UmmErrKane
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yea, but they still have bugs. The console version of morrowind has a bug where if you equip a certain weapon (Which has a bunch of enchantments, but negates any enchantments on your armour), it removes all your armour's enchantments like it's supposed to, but when you remove it, it doesn't return your armour to normal. You can fix that with a patch if you have the computer version, but not on console. Also, PCs are just as portable as Consoles. It's called the internet.

Oh, and, hell yes, LAN parties are teh 0wnz0r

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

One more point for PC: Games have patches to fix these dinwit bugs...

However, one more point for video games: games have less bugs and no problems with Direct Shit, neither Open Ga.yL.

And the PC's point is taken out, because they can fix all bugs if they want, but its rare to see a game with all its bug fixed...I've never seen it myself...

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hellfire
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes I beleive that most games come prepacked with bugs it a fact of their nature. If you have hours to play, play on a comp cause it is better.......but if you have like half an hour you need a console.

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UmmErrKane
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Bugs are generally the fault of the computer, not the game. It's impossible to build a game for every possible system configuration, which is why you need a lot of patches.

Computers have a lot of good 10-minute games. Whenever I need to just kick back and have some fun, I can fire up good ole' Counter-Strike and play a game to ten with bots. Takes about 20 mins. Just did it now, in fact.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Also, PCs are just as portable as Consoles. It's called the internet. Oh, and, hell yes, LAN parties are teh 0wnz0r


The xbox is very easy to manage when playing with 8 people... PC people have to use a hub, with 8 connections going to it, not to mention all the 8 PC's you have to hook up which is a hassel. With xbox you only need one crossover cable and 2 xbox's to hook up. Now tell me, which will be fast to get a 4 vs 4 going? I could get a game running in less than 3 minutes. And I think its a hell of a lot funner playing a game when the person your playing is right next to you.

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Bugs are generally the fault of the computer, not the game.


And yes bugs are generally the PC's fault, but I bet you cant say that bugs are generally the consoles fault...

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Computers have a lot of good 10-minute games. Whenever I need to just kick back and have some fun, I can fire up good ole' Counter-Strike and play a game to ten with bots. Takes about 20 mins. Just did it now, in fact.


WOW 20 mins! Just to play for 10 mins! Thats madness. Just hook up the N64 and play some perfect dark with bots, only takes 2 minutes Wink

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However, one more point for video games: games have less bugs and no problems with Direct Shit, neither Open Ga.yL.


I have never had a problem running a game on any console, except for maybe the NES. With computers you have to install the game and that takes forever, and sometimes it wont even work. You than have to go a try to fix the problem or configure it correctly.

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PCs also allows you and your friend play it in Internet.


Uuhhh.. The Xbox and the PS2 already have internet capability...

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Console games are good if you don't like to think, and just want to play a quick game and shoot some crap. Personally, I find intelligent games fun, and intellgent games are extremely rare on consoles.


Are you crazy? They have tons of good thinking games, such as Inteligent Cube, a variety of puzzle games, every zelda game, Metriod Prime, Merio games, and many more other Nintendo titles.

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. Not to mention Console games have no mods or patches, so you never get new features or free mods. Hell, look at NWN. NWN would never work on a console, because they're constantly adding things to it (Not to mention DMing on an Xbox would be a pain in the ass).


You can use xbox live to download patches for certain games, which would fix your problems and also add some goodies! If they made NWN on xbox, Im sure it would work flawlessly. Very Happy

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Also, FPS games are ONLY good on a computer. I could never get the hang of those damn controllers. It's mouse and keyboard all the way for me, baby


You abviously didnt grow up with a console. Otherwise your hands would adapt to any controller you hold. But I can see how you prefer a mouse over a controller.

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1 of the main reasons why the artn no new games for ps2 and game cube is cos that (I used the word "Gay" here because I'm a dolt) mother ztypeer bill gates is stealing all the decent games for that piece of shit he calls a xbox


So what? The games are still made the same, except the game is slapped with a Xbox logo. I know most of you hate Microsoft, I used to as well. But when I played Halo, I no longer hated Xbox.

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ztype Zelda they got Resident Evil comming out on Gamecube...ztyping traitors who making resident evil...Res Evil should be on PS2 after all Res Evil Began on Playstations for crying out loud..


Its very obvious that even if Nintendo Game Cube made the game of the Century, you would hate it, Im getting that vibe from you...

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One Of A Kind
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

TS, you make the point about 8-player xbox games being easy to set up but you forgot to make one point that its still split screen! That is without a shadow of a doubt the one problem with console multi-player games. It just doesn't cut it when you're at a lan part and you can play a game with 32 players and you have a screen all to your self.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Believe me, when you start playing at first you notice how smalll your screen is but after 10 minutes of play, you dont care, because your having too good of a time.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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PCs also allows you and your friend play it in Internet.


Uuhhh.. The Xbox and the PS2 already have internet capability...


yeah, but u cant surf the net n shit like a pc, only play games

and wheres the fun on console games, u cant dl mods or stuff

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yea mods...
The only thing Xbob is good 4 is graphics... and halo.

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UmmErrKane
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

TS, I grew up with an NES and SNES (Well, and a gameboy). I have no trouble with console games, but FPS' on consoles are always less fun than FPS games on PCs.

Also, NWN would never work on a console because people that play console games don't have enough of an attention span for it, not to mention the controls would never work, and you couldn't download Mods so you'd miss out on the 1300 mods there are for it. Also, it's probably too memory intensive and big (Space-wise) for a console.

You can play CS for any amount of time. I use a game to 10 points as a base because that's a normal game time for a CS game. You could play for 60 seconds. Just pop in, blow away some bots, and leave.

About puzzle games: I don't consider puzzle games to be intelligent games. When I think of intelligent games, I think of NWN and Deus Ex. Intelligent games just don't work on a console.

Also, computers will always be faster and have better graphics, because everything you see in a console has been available for computers for years, not to mention you can do a lot more with a computer than a console.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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yeah, but u cant surf the net n shit like a pc, only play games

and wheres the fun on console games, u cant dl mods or stuff


I think you can surf the net with a PS2 now. And true, you cant dl mods and stuff, but I dont need them, the game comes good the way it is.

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FPS' on consoles are always less fun than FPS games on PCs.


This is a opinion, not a fact. Some people like fps better than consoles and other prefer fps on PC.

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Also, NWN would never work on a console because people that play console games don't have enough of an attention span for it, not to mention the controls would never work, and you couldn't download Mods so you'd miss out on the 1300 mods there are for it. Also, it's probably too memory intensive and big (Space-wise) for a console


There are already a huge amount of people playing games on the internet with consoles. By the end of this year, their will be even more. Again, this is true, you wont be able to play mods, but who knows, some day you might. Once they allow you to put bigger HD in consoles, you will be able to download mods Smile. Not enough space? The Damn game Cd's are over a 1GB in space! Rather than the CD rom witch holds 800mb...

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About puzzle games: I don't consider puzzle games to be intelligent games. When I think of intelligent games, I think of NWN and Deus Ex. Intelligent games just don't work on a console.


Well, maybe I was off with the puzzle games, but there are lots of intelligent games on console, and they seem to work just fine.

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Also, computers will always be faster and have better graphics, because everything you see in a console has been available for computers for years, not to mention you can do a lot more with a computer than a console.


They will probably always be faster, but not always better graphics. I remember they compared the graphics from HL for PC of that of the graphics of PS2, and the HL for PS2 had better graphics. And yeah you can do alot more with PC's. Thats only because your paying like $2000 for a pc and $200 for a console. Obviously you will get more for your money. And you always will have the hassle with a PC and not very much with a console.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Believe me, when you start playing at first you notice how smalll your screen is but after 10 minutes of play, you dont care, because your having too good of a time.


No, I DO CARE. Basically, because when I used to play Goldeney with some friends, they used to look to my side of the screen to know my location and vice versa and then I was killed few seconds later...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Good point Banshee, that's another reason why fps's work better on pcs for multiplayer. There's more of a surprise element. Granted, playing eight player halo (4v4) its helpful to have your teammates all in one room and your enemies in another though....

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

lol, I was one of those people who looked on screens :p. It was cheating, but oh well, everyone else did. Me and my brother once created a split screen. It was a 4 way divider and you could only see your own screen. And we also had a 2 divider, so only you and your team mate could see eachothers screens. It was actually a lot of funner with it on. Also I would like to add that radar was off.

I do that whenever I have Halo on lan at my house. I have like 6 people on my room with 2 27" TVs and another 6 in my living room with 2 27" TVs. Its fu*ken awesome!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hmm, fps suck on console, cos the controls on a p.c are so close and easy to access, and the elemant of suprise.
RTS also suck on console, with out a mouse or keyboard short cuts, you can lag behind and the speed of a cursor with a pad is sooo slow and hard to access what you desire.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ok, I must admit, RTS arent the greatest with consoles, but I happen to think fps are great with console. Some people like myself dont do so well with a mouse on fps. But I do tons better with a anolog controller.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Like myself and I dont play multiplayer fps so I dont worry bout split screen.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I meant, computers have the greatest POTENTIAL for graphics. You can make a computer game with far, FAR better graphics than a console, just people usually don't, because a lot of people don't have good enough computers. And there's a reason HL graphics look better on the PS2: HL-PC is /5 years old!/. HL-PS2 is only, like, a couple years old, at MOST. Take a look at some in-development PC games. Their graphics are so much better than any console games I've seen.

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all i can say people, kane is right, just look at doom 3 for an example.

The graphics on doom 3 rock, no console as the potential to run such a complex game with out running speed problems

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ya kane is right potential is there on comps like unreal 2 (never seen doom 3 screens) but I say that game has some of the best graphics Ive ever seen.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2003 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well think about it... PC's have new video cards out all the time. And people buy them to go that slightest bit of edge in better graphics. And they come out with new ones every month. They cost hella money, plus you need the latest mhz/ram/HD space(more money). Consoles cant be upgraded. So That would be like buying a new Console every month to get th latest graphics! Thats madness. Also graphics arent everything. Its all about the game play. If it were all about the graphics than I wouldnt still be playing Golden eye or Tiberian Dawn. Todays Consoles graphics are just fine with me.

I cant wait till the Xbox 2 and PS3 come out. The graphics will look twice as good as they do now Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2003 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

lol, PS3 is said to have a 4000MHz(4GHz) proccessor, which isn't even out yet lol, i think they are a bit over the top to predict things, ya never know AMD and pentium may collapse randomly Embarassed .

and doom III's graphics are superior, even to unreal 2

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2003 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

read most of whats above.

Consoles are Pc's, that is a true fact, the only difference is that they are limited to a small domain(meaning u can only play games). And they are pointles for this fact, why spend hundreds of pounds on a console that can ONLY play games? and if u look around u will see that there are MORE games for the PC. FPS games are shit on console cos they have stupid controlers with 100's of buttons on the thing, also ur limited to basic movements, etc. PC's are much better. Also if u notice console games are MORE EXPESIVE, so in the long run u will b forking out more cash then if u stuck to consoles.

Overall Consoles are pointless, o and about the 2 mins to play a console, it takes about 2 mins to get into a game on a pc, XP takes like 30 secs to load fully, game takes proberly like 30 secs, id give the user 30 secs for misc stuff, so 1 min 30 secs to get into a game, not gona take up much more time....

also oen thing i have just remembered, console versions of pc games show u how muchbetter a pc is, consoel levels are much smaller than pc ones, i played a console version of Deus Ex n it sucked cos it was totaly different to the PC one cos it had to load every sec cos it couldn't have the full level loaded into its memory.

Also u will see that there are hardly any bugs in pc games, yes they will have them in but its hardly ever due to anythgin but the game, hardware conflicts are always annoying, Pc's can only execute so meny commands b4 they ztype up(note: how meny times does XP crash......only crashed liek 2 times for me). The onyl errors that cause bugs are because nowadays games makers rush out there prducts ASAP liek EA n renegade.

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