have just unit female for special unit like COMMANDO
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 2:28 pm Post subject:
About Girl in Strategy games...
did you already seen that in Strategy games the is not very girl, or they are just there for special mission/action or for a special unit !
Let's see in Westwood games (cnc):
RA1 & 2 : only one girl in the game: tanya(she is just a commando for some mission, can build in multiplayer)
CnC Dawn: no girl
CnC Tsun: Oxanna(Nod) and Umagaan (mutant)
YR: no girl
CnC Generals: Black lotus (China)
In starcraft, there is a lot of girl... let's see:
Medic (infantery girl)
Kerrigan (special terran commando)
New Kerrigan (Terran transformated in Zerg race, now, she is the queen)
air Valkirye attack (terran)
air Transport (terran)
So what do you think, Strategy game should Have MORE female units (general), Just unit female for special unit like COMMANDO or just NO female units ?
BTW: Banshee i can put a third option for the poll ... missing this question: " or just NO female units ? " QUICK_EDIT
The thing about women not being associated with war is sadly true. Did you know that there's a written rule in the U.S. military that snipers can't be female? Realistically, women tend to be superior to men in every way, so having more women in a military could do only good. 'Course, maybe they're just smart enough to know war is stupid QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:28 pm Post subject:
I disagree with your "reality", Kane. I believe it doesnt depends on being male or female to be better. It depends on the abilities of the person that are required for certain positions. QUICK_EDIT
That's true, but if you look everywhere in nature, you see it again and again. The female is the dominant sex. Female Hyenas always lead the hunt. Male lions don't hunt at all. Female Black Widow spiders eat their mates. All ants are female, except for 50% of the breeders, which only live until they mate with a female, then they die. Female mosquitoes are the only ones that bite. You see it in almost every species, and there's a bunch of perfectly rational explanations for it. To think it isn't true in humans is pretty foolish. I'm not saying all women are better than all men. I'm just saying that the strongest, most intelligent female is stronger and smarter than the strongest, most intelligent male. Women have the CAPACITY to be better than men. QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:16 pm Post subject:
I disagree. Genre means nothing, except few different hormones and a different genitals.. It would be funny to tell that to Eistein, Newton, Freud and others... QUICK_EDIT
I'm not sure I agree about women having the capacity to be completely better than men, but I do agree that women can do things that men can't. For example women can multi-task (have two or three simultaneous conversations at once for example) whereas men can't (I know I can only handle one conversation at a time). QUICK_EDIT
Yoshi, all hyenas are the same, basically, but the female's are the hunt leaders. There's clear dominance there over males. Whether this is a social thing, or whether it's actual physical dominance, we can't know, but it seems fairly coincidental that in ALL species of animals, the females are dominant. Humans are animals, so it would seem strange for us to be the one different species.
Women being able to multitask is a good example of advantages they have over men. There's some others too, like women tend to not rely totally on one hemisphere of their brains (Men usually are either heavily right-brain, or left-brain, individuals, but women tend to be in the middle, not totally one way or the other).
And dooffy, what the holy hell does my gender have to do with anything? I deal in logic, and fact, so my opinion on something doesn't have any influence on the facts and logic I deal with. QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: banshee_revora (Steam) Joined: 15 Aug 2002 Location: Brazil
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 12:25 am Post subject:
Kane... do you know why for the majority of the animals, the female is what you call dominant? Because they are responsible for the reproduction and survivance of the specie and of the newer generations. There are some animals where the male gets more important since it brings up their "kids". In the human specie, for milleniums, the male was more important than the woman, because they had the tradition to work and get money. It doesnt mean they are superior or inferior. As for the brain thing, you should know that males have more neurons. But humans doesnt know what are they applied too. Also consider the fact that you cant measure inteligence. Some people have more abilities with some things while others have different abilities developed in different ways... QUICK_EDIT
Not exactly. If the female was dominant because of reproduction ONLY, they wouldn't be physically dominant. Female hyenas and lions are the hunters of the pack. Wouldn't it make sense to have the males hunt, if that was the only reason? We can't know for sure, but it seems there's more to it than that.
The thing about males working to get money was, probably, due to the general opinion at the time that females were inferior, and if a woman tried to work, she was laughed at or thought to be insane.
The male brain has more neurons? I find that hard to believe. There's only slight differences between the brain structure of a female and male brain, but then, I don't know for sure if you're right or wrong.
I know you can't measure overall intelligence. I'm not talking about that. What I mean that, IN GENERAL (I'll be the first to say it isn't a law), men are more suited to doing grunt work for females, from a biological standpoint. Females are more suited to intelligence and such, but they also have the capability to be just as strong as men are. If you think back to before agriculture was widely adopted by humans, back a hundred thousand years ago, the only thing men did was sit in a forest and shoot stuff with bows. The women built the structures, created the clothes and food, invented language, and pretty much everything else.
Of course, this is all social organization, and because humans are really crappy at organizing themselves toward a common goal, we'd totally screw up the results for an actual scientific stufy. A pack of hyenas can confuse and distract a herd of water buffallo so much that they can bring down one of the animals and drag it off to eat without the others retaliating, but humans can't even decide on who should do what in a group.
Hell, this is even a good example. We're both arguing over something trivial, when we could both be doing something more productive. Heck, I even started it, which was really kinda stupid in retrospect (This type of stuff tends to stir up controversy). I guess the lesson to be learned is that humans are really dumb QUICK_EDIT
Warcraft 3 has the Sorceress, Banshee, Archer, Huntress, Priestess of the Moon, dryad, sentry, warden, and probably some more that I'm missing. Hell, the Night Elves are pretty much a race of females. The males are rare. QUICK_EDIT
there are girls characters in the shitty rg curscenes, bt there not main chars, but they r playable with the code extras fnkqrrm, and holding alt while goign int vehicles or characters _________________ QUICK_EDIT
You just need to have 'extras' written in the command bar... It doesn't matter what ese you put there. I wonder why people think that they have to type fnkqrrm as well... This is completely off topic... Anyway I think that in strategy games there should be more general femal units. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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