Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:49 am Post subject:
Anyone paint/draw ?
Welp, I jus did another lil painting last night, TRYING to follow w\ my fav artist Bob Ross ..
I watched his show when I was lil and tried to paint and well, I had lesee, 300 tree-looking stick blobs on a piece of cardboard, lol ....
Well, I tried again a few yrs ago and did a teenybit better, that time it was 1 tree and 299 tree-looking stick blobs ^_~
I never really thought too much about taking painting courses but I am wondering if I should, its just necessity sometimes beats out wants ...
So, I pickt up the brushes again last night and came up w\something that was pretty ok ... Sir mods thought I should stick it up on the board and Banshee suggested here so ....
I need to work on my buildings, never done any before, this barn is kinda lop-sided going downhill ... the roof was hard, tryin to get the anglesw\ the knife ..
I also need to work on leaves of bushes/trees ... They are too "muddy" lookin ..
So, if anyone else paints/ draws, how about puttin some stuff up ..
If you like to paint, maybe we can talk, offer ideas/help, constructive critiquing ..
This is very awesome work, you have a lot of talent. I cant paint anything worthhile apart ffrom stuff for me personally, this.. this is extremely good.
Only thing I can see that could do with work is some of the perspective is wrong, the fence at the bottom right for example, and the bushes in front of it. And the barns perspective is slightly off, it doesnt quite have depth fully apparent to it.
I love the way the ice.. snow stuff fades into the water, awesome effect.
Beautiful work. _________________ I am uber. I am teh 3|_17e|\|355
This does show a lot of talent, learning the proper techniques in a class, perhaps in night school, could pay off.
This is with acrylics, no? I would make sure that you find a course that teaches what you feel comfortable with. The last thing you need is to struggle with water colors. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
this is brilliant! i love it , i would probably buy it if i had any money. yes i agree you definitely should take some courses so you could get even better, please keep showing us paintings!
like smilen said i love the snow to water effect _________________ Singer-Songwriter Christie Isaac QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:38 am Post subject:
I think that's very good! I've never been one for doing painting myself, but it certainly looks like you have a lot of talent. I have to agree with the comments Smilen made, if you can improve them it'll make the picture miles better. _________________
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This is sexier than what this forum was supposed to tolerate. - Banshee
wow, Thanx guys, I dint think too much of my artwork, I actually have, quite abit on my dinky website ... I had stuff on there for a lonnnnnnnnnng time ... I think I have the link to it, in my profile hmm ...
I'm not sure of what you mean about the fence not being in perspective, its actually,well, supposed to be going kind of downhill, there is supposed to be a small path there w\ snow on it and its going sorta downhill and the fence is following that path, well to some degree ...
The trees in the back look ok, but the ones and well bushes near the fence are really too muddy ...
I painted this pic w\ oils ... If you have ever seen Bob ROss on PBS (channel 4) Saturday mornings at 11 ... He is my fav and he paints fairly simple pics, simple as in, content, he doesnt have extremely elaborate paintings because it was part of his style to help beginners learn to paint and then be able to develop better skill ...
He is fantabulous, he does his in 30 mins or less, it takes me erm a few hrs
Part of the problem sometimes is, I am a perfectionist to some degree, its like in one stroke painting, I may wipe, repaint, wipe, repaint 10 or more times before I am either satisfied or simply call it quits for the session ..
Then I can become discouraged : \
ANyways, Thanx for the comments and suggestions ^_^
Not sure what you mean Kyler, that you draw in school and hence being thought of as a "terrorist" ... has to do w\ your drawings ? ANyways, where are these drawings ?
O and Christophski, Thanx, I agree w\ you, if you had money, I'd want you to buy it :p
I'm thinking of giving it to my well, stepDads Aunt, She is 94 I think ..
ANyways, THanx again, hopefully someone else will post some artwork ?
I agree, painting classes would be good, but here, they dont offer any that I can take either cause it cost too much or is during my work hours ...atleast not yet anyways ...
Um, I'll stick this pic in, it was the one I did previous tothis, so actually, you can see, I did quite abit better w\ the other one than this, interestingly,the time span between this first and the above painting was like proly 6 months or so ...
Not sure what you mean Kyler, that you draw in school and hence being thought of as a "terrorist" ... has to do w\ your drawings ? ANyways, where are these drawings ?
Oh, yes, guns, bases, and all sorts of things that go 'bang', 'boom', and/or 'poof'.
I still do, I just avoid doing things that are obviously guns now..
My current sketch is an Aftermath (RA1) Allied base recovering from a Soviet assualt..
Wounded guys getting helped back to the barracks, medics running towards hurt men, Soviet tanks burning outside the base..
Well.. base.. not really.. more like a Weapons Factory, a Tent Barracks, a couple base defenses.. and alot of guys..
Oh, yea, and a chain link fence around it. Partially damaged, and not covering the part of the base open to a small river.
They're in a bunch of stapled-together papers in my locker. Not supposed to be drawing in school.. _________________ "Banned" RP here QUICK_EDIT
ohhhhhh, I see, I can understand now why you said that ...
I mean w\ the things that have gone on in schools : \
However, I dint know that you were drawing this stuff at school ..
Howcome, not at home ?
When you first mentioned you drew, I wondered if you did so w\ pencil/paper or on the pc using one of those drawing tablets, I'd like to have one of those, but they are expensive if you get a good one that has a good size drawing area ...
Are you drawing these as just, something to pass time or are you planning on implementing these drawings into your game or a "mod" for RA ?
You know, its a sad thing, to think that, exercising your creative talents, in this case, in drawing, is something you said, you arent post to be doing in school QUICK_EDIT
I like the composition, it holds up well, the corner seems a bit out of place? It must be the contrast of texture vs. the snow field.
I like the scenery in your second piece, it being a C&C forum, it reminds me of the RA1 intro movie.....Lol, I am waiting for that mammoth tank to roll out from behind those trees.
I draw and have painted before, and done several assamblages, not to confuse anyone when I say sculptures, since people are more likely to assume ceramatics....althought I've done some cermatics aswell. _________________ Delirium.. QUICK_EDIT
Opposed to Defiler, I dislike the composiotion of both paintings.
First:
A strip with trees is going along the horisontal center line, the house intersects with center. The overall composition makes the picture unstabile, like its going to to fall on its right side which has a tree (which should not touch the canvas border) and some kind of bushes with a fence... And the left side is too empty for that. I'm not saying that you should stick the left side with objects, mistakes of this picture are not correctable. But anyway, through mistakes you should study.
This one is almost good, despite one thing. The general mass of sky and general mass of the snow field are nearly equal which makes the picture a bit boring, because you can't concertate your attention on something important. For you its like everything has the same level of importance. By the rules of the Golden Division you should either put 2/3 of land/sky or vice versa. This turn makes sky (or land) dominate over land (or sky). It attaches more attention to the picture, thus makes you more popular
I dont want you to offend on my comments, but you should consider my opinion, as I am an artist and survived (lol) four exhibitions. Here in Moscow, of course.
P.S. - Oh, and its not necessary to include the front plane if you dont like it so much. _________________ in 2009 to Florence. Viva Italia! QUICK_EDIT
i dont agree, i dont see why the tree should touch the border? its his painting, you should be able to develop your own style, even if it is only subtly different to any other, i really like the way these are painted especially the second one. _________________ Singer-Songwriter Christie Isaac QUICK_EDIT
The tree should not. And I am not talking about his style, his style is okay. I am talking about the general rules of composition which are applied to all styles, from realism to suprematism. These are his first works, and no one releases a masterpiece at the very beginning of his creativity. Go and read some books, Chris. _________________ in 2009 to Florence. Viva Italia! QUICK_EDIT
Hmm, I like the paintings, but Jah is right... The first one is unbalanced, and the second lacks focus.
The look good, the composition just needs a bit of work. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Are you drawing these as just, something to pass time or are you planning on implementing these drawings into your game or a "mod" for RA ?
You know, its a sad thing, to think that, exercising your creative talents, in this case, in drawing, is something you said, you arent post to be doing in school
Heh, no, not planning on some mod, I'm just.. sketching, seeing what I can do.. It's all RA1 stuff, just.. in poor repair, some of it..
Alot of people KNOW I'm drawing.. they're just 'scared' of me. Me and my 'terrorist' artwork..
Damned American girls.. Some of 'em are good eyecandy, tho..
Oddly, a girl that seemed to hate me suddenly.. turned all nice.. complimented my base.. right before asking what it was.. _________________ "Banned" RP here QUICK_EDIT
Reading or re-reading my initial post may explain a lil ... I am not an "established" artist, may I also point out, if previously missed, these paintings are not my ideas, but they are merely my interpretation of a well-established artist's ..
Bob Ross painted his version of these paintings on his show, I simply TRIED to follow along, not trying to "copy" exactly, but simply watching and practicing some of his techniques, that is, how he makes trees/bushes/water etc, this did end up in my painting being a fair "copy" of his own, just not as refined ^_~ ...
These paintings were practice, they are not my very own original ideas as for content and structure, they are my attempt to learn some of the ways of creating different objects w\ in a painting...
So, as for thought in layout, proportions and so on, while appreciated, these were irrelevant, basically what you would be critiquing are Bob Ross's ideas/techniques, not mine .. He is a well-known and superb Artist (that has passed on) ..
I intended to put these up, to ask for suggestions/techniques in how I might better create objects in a painting, not whether or not, I had proper proportioning and balance, sorry that I dint make that clear ... I understand you are giving insight on proportioning and balance, this is fine, but, better it'd be to show examples of this ...
You said you are an Artist, so how about sharing some pics of your paintings or ... ? What style do you paint in ? I have not heard of this golden division rule, again, I've had no training in painting whatsoever, so you couldnt get the "textbook" out on me, since I'm not familiar therewith, but sharing information is always good, So, could you perhaps share some of your own work, perhaps to demonstrate some of the concepts you've suggested ?
At this time, just as my writings, I dont do it, for profit or to a particular rule necessarily, I do it for enjoyment and, some people have liked some of the results, even I have, not 100% because there is always room for improvement, but not for perfection! - only to the limited human extent.
Further, I also, have not dedicated much discipline for time to practice, again, this is, at this time, for enjoyment, w\ a potential to go beyond .. Thank You, however, for offering your opinions on them, its good to be exposed to new information that may help refine ones skills.. Please, continue to respond, anyone else, do likewise .. QUICK_EDIT
i gotta like...half agree with DeathRay2K... The first painting is unbalanced... If you had the housing further to the left it would be fine...BUT the second on is great... It may be unfocused but if im right that might of been your aim.. A nice soft landscape with the fog drifting through the air giving it a calm feel to it... You do great work man just dont forget your asymetrical balance stuff... QUICK_EDIT
Thanx meselfs, I like your SHP tut, very informative ..
Thanx DCI, for pointing out "Bob Ross's" unbalanced ideas ...
People dont seem to be reading my posts or only in bits and peices, these are pics that I picked up a brush and painted, yes, BUT they are NOT , my original ideas, therefore, ANY reference to "my" lack of balance in the pics, is NOT applicable ..
To attempt to better illustrate my point, imagine a Friend draws a picture of a house with 2 bushes on the left, one on the right, you attempt to draw (in your limited skill) the same picture, for practice, and then people tell you that your pic is out of balance, its makes no sense to put 2 bushes on the left and one on the right, whats wrong with you .., ... you would then attempt to convey that you drew the picture itself as practice, but the content and layout was NOT your original idea ..
Does anyone have any pictures to post of their own, just for enjoyment, not for textbook critiquing -lest you prefer it, although offering new information on techniques etc, is good ... QUICK_EDIT
Costar...U were jus saying that say putting one bush on one side then 2 bushes on the other side would be wrong...well i think thats what u said, but its not.
Its called asymmetrical as i said... If u look at a painting and it seems odd. like theres more on one side then the other then it is unbalanced but u dont see many paintings that are symmetrical (same on both sides, mirrored ) thats where asymetry comes into play... Lets say we have 2 kids on a see-saw (lame) and the see-saw is balanced... These 2 kids arent identical but there are similar wieght, where in paintings or pictures it is about the space and stuff... U see what im trying to say. U can have 1 massive thing on say the left but then u could either have another massive thing on the right or a few smaller things.... Dunno if this helps but meh QUICK_EDIT
Thanx Alex, I havent tried any like that really, I dont practice like I should and well, it isnt a TOP priority to do so, there is so much more going on, but I do have a strong interest in it and seeing as I do have atleast some bit of talent, that if I did take more time and learn more, PRACTIIIIIIIIIIIICE then I may become a well established Artist some day ^_^
Erm, ok DC, let me clear something up, the example I used, of the "bushes" was NOT a particular concept or principle, what I was conveying, rather, it was just what I said, an example of how people are MISREADING, misunderstanding my post(s) ...
I hope I can make this simpler,
say, have you ever looked at a picture that someone else drew, or a painting even, or ANYTHING that SOMEONE else has created,designed and you said, "wow, I like that, I think I will TRY to "duplicate" that, by drawing or painting or sculpting or building something that looks JUST LIKE THEIR ORIGINAL ?!
Now, IF, you drew, scuplted, painted or built something that was a DUPLICATE of something that someone else CREATED, and then you had people criticizing your work in this way "YOUR design is flawed, YOUR ideas were flawed" ...
This would be an error, because what YOU painted, sculpted, built was NOT YOUR ORIGINAL DESIGN, you simply made a COPY of someone ELSE's design, so, the ONLY thing, people could criticize you on, would be, the quality of your work, not the original idea, thereof ...
I hope I have made this simple enough for anyone virtually, to understand..
IF John Hancock designed and printed out the US dollar bill, THEN Herby Hancock looked at John's original design and then attempted to copy it and did so exactly, no one could criticize Herby for the design, they would criticize John, the originator of the design, they could only legitimately criticize Herby for his job on DUPLICATING John's original design...
That means, John is criticized for the design (layout, colors, "balance" etc) Herby is criticized on how well he duplicated John's design !
I understand your point and Thanks for the input., but hopefully you can now understand mine. I wish someone else would post some of their drawings/paintings or anything, I thought I might make this topic so I could find other(s) interested in art such as this and maybe share tips on how better to paint objects, such as trees, buildings etc, NOT just where to place these objects ... QUICK_EDIT
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Anyone paint/draw ?
