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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject:
Tiberium Wars title is official.
Subject description: at least for now...
APOC wrote:
Hey guys,
I've explained this before in a previous thread, but I shall do it again, hence the name of "Tiberium Wars"
Tiberium: Mysterious substance discovered in 1995 near the Tiber River in Italy.
Tiberian: Of or relating to the substance Tiberium, its molecular makeup, effects on the surrounding environment or history
In Tiberian Sun they did not fight over the sun. It was a descriptor of the new stage of Tiberium growth and progress. In Tiberium Wars this is actually the name of the war. Not to get too deep just yet but Tiberium Wars is actually the 3rd Tiberium War if you didn't put 2&2 together yet...Wait that equals 4, but you get my lingo )
So, hopefully that will make logical sense. GDI and Nod are not fighting over "Tiberian", they are fighting over "Tiberium", hence the name "Tiberium Wars".
The title of the game grows on you once you think about it and understand the logical sense, and I think we save face by holding to our choice here. We don't want to keep back pedaling. You don't need to always be cliche in a title and have continuity in the sub-title. The continuity is in the franchise name "Command & Conquer". Tiberium Wars is a continuation of a story in the C& C universe in the "Tiberian Storyline". I know it gets confusing, but think about the literal meaning of the title and it makes sense.
We fully understand what some of the intended titles were back in the day, but now that we are officially announced, the offiical title is Tiberium Wars )
Remember, continuity comes in the actual story and the franchise name Command & Conquer. And there is plenty of continuity because this is the 3rd Tiberium War.
I'll admit myself that Tiberian Twilight is a very cool name, but it doesn't conotate the story of C&C 3 well, of which you guys will learn a lot about in the coming months and when you actually play the game of course.
We're building a next generation C&C game that is true to the spiriti of this classic franchise, universe, and story.
It will all make sense guys...
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It actually makes sense, using the whole red, green and yellow zones concept. But it's just ugly and not creative, don't you think? QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject:
i still think it should be name tiberian dusk, and TS... well it isnt what its supposed to be, but better than tiberium wars _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:37 pm Post subject:
Who gives a shit? If TS was named 'Big Japanese Titties:Tiberian Sun', it'd still be the same game. only with more clevage. _________________ PPM's Reichstrollfuherer, 236th Trollenparties brigade. QUICK_EDIT
the name is silly and the facts we all already knew, the title persists in being bad, it suggests C&C 3 infact covers the span of ALL the games in the TD timeline, which it dosent.
to sumarise:
1. the title neither follows a pattern nor is it orgional in any way
2. APOC is a cunt. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject:
i like cunts, and i dont like APOC in that particular way, so he probably isnt.
and i like big japanese titties too ^^
and if we're going to be blunt anyway: i think YOU are a dick, no offence... _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
Don't get on Apoc's back, it's the bosses that are doing it not him. I find it sad that hes the one getting the flame yet sticking the finger out for the community. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject:
Re: Tiberium Wars title is official.
Tiberian Dawn
Tiberian Sun
Tiberium Wars..
Its a bit like calling a new Star Wars, Star Battles, or Star Conflicts, or Galactic Wars.. etc.
Galactic Wars XI: The Search for the old name.
I see no real point in moving away from a pattern which has been previously established.
As Apoc so well put:
APOC wrote:
In Tiberian Sun they did not fight over the sun. It was a descriptor of the new stage of Tiberium growth and progress. In Tiberium Wars this is actually the name of the war. Not to get too deep just yet but Tiberium Wars is actually the 3rd Tiberium War if you didn't put 2&2 together yet...Wait that equals 4, but you get my lingo )
So what is he trying to say..? That Tiberium will not be evolving/progressing/developing any more from when we last saw the Tiberian Ecosystem in Tiberian Sun and Firestorm?
Or maybe.. quite simply.. Tiberian Dusk / Tiberian Twilight sounds like the end, if Tiberian Dawn represented the beginning. And they don't want the Tiberian series to end with this game.. which.. I'm getting worried is the most plausible.
Even so, Tiberium Wars, to me doesn't quite sound right. TD = the first Tiberian War. We say Tiberian War, not Tiberium War. At least I do. Same applies to TS.
Its a bit like.. do we say.. erm.. no real examples spring to mind (its late for me.. I've had a long day) But think about this:
There is a war involving France somehow..
Would you say it was the France War, or it was the French War. I'd go for the French War.
(No predjudice to the French, France was the first thing to come into my head.. I blame TV..)
I don't know, maybe my english is wrong, maybe I'm just tired. But Tiberium Wars sounds wrong to me.
And Tiberium War[b]s[/b]? Plural? Are we having like 3 wars in this one? Or is just that there have been more than one war, we just put the entire thing into plural?
Does that mean "World War 3" will actually become "World Wars"? I hope not.
Or will it mean we have more than one side fighting each other? Perhaps, with the Scrin making a presence, this is the case.
But then, in World War 2, you had the British and French and co against the Germans and the Nazi's, while at the same time you had the Americans against the Japanese.
Yes, they are kinda related, and they probably would be considered all as one fight. (Did I mention its late..?) But I personally consider it two seperate fights. Just the people with the same ideas joined together.
But in this context, it would seem that World War 2 should actually be considered, the World Wars? Wars happening across the World?
I don't like Tiberium Wars. Working title or Official, I don't like it. Some people will agree with me, some won't. Perhaps there is meaning behind it, but for me, it'd need to be a lot for it to really make sense for me or even sound right.
Just stick with whats already there. Why walk when you've been riding this far up? Why change trains and go another route, when your final destination is the next stop on the line.
If you don't want to have it as the ending to the Tiberian saga, call it something earlier than Dusk or Twilight.. I mean, Tiberian Afternoon Tea sounds good to me.. Tiberian Dinner Time, Tiberian Evening.. go with the flow.
And, I'm not directing this all at APOC. Don't shoot the messenger. He's passing messages in both directions. The wants of the fans to the boss, and the doctrines of the boss to the fans.
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like muldrake saysthe title Tiberium wars dosent even look like it follows the TD-TS continuity, it just makes it stand out as a EA product rather than being a part of a ongoing series, having a name that dosent make sense and will look crap on the comilation box wont even help EA's sales.
if i saw a box that said:
Tiberian Dawn, Tiberian Sun and Tiberium wars
it makes me think "huh? that dosent follow the logical sequence"
i just dont get it, what possible incentive is there for EA to have a crappy nonsensicle title that distances it from the previous two, well loved games in the series? not only is EA ignoring logic, but also everything else, what is going on there? its just stupid.
As for the end of the series title wise, Tiberian Dusk would be a perfect name, it would actually set the scene for later possible titles like Tiberian Twilight and Tiberian midnight followed by perahps an end of series title that sounds really dynamic like oh i dont know.... Return of the dawn
when day and night is concered it isnt really a problem because its a cycle, and heck there are spinoffs like renegade that dont even follow that sequence.
plus finality comes in the story not in the title.
i really wish EA could just stop being so dense and get their acts together and make a freaking game with a good, exciting but sensible title, live action cutscenes, relativley restrained graphics, fun gameplay and a story that follows the continuity of the series. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
i like cunts, and i dont like APOC in that particular way, so he probably isnt.
and i like big japanese titties too ^^
and if we're going to be blunt anyway: i think YOU are a dick, no offence...
I wonder what you guys are talking about...what cunt dick tittties things. But the Tiberium Wars, the name seems a bit weird to me. Should be Tiberian Wars! QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 9:25 am Post subject:
that at least.
and you shouldnt try to understand a rant covered in sexual content (now i say that, it really sounds like its against the forums rules) _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
And what about the tiberium? They're saying it's an ecological cancer. I think they're just trying to make this Generals TD style, why? Because 'the gamers' don't like the dark TS atmosphere! They're 'going back to their roots' , roots that aren't even theirs!
The TS FMV's showed what was happening to the world. Terrible mutations, big orange fleshy veins covering the land, devouring the last dwellings of the terrified humans... A large floating jellyfish, hunting crying civilians, puffing deadly gas, Genesis pits... Cyborg invasions, evacuation of capitals... Mass assimilation...
-stop-
Take a look at the trailer, things look dusty and deserted... Okay... Tiberium? Hmm? Where? Over here? Nope. Under my chair? Nope. Blue zones don't actually exist in TS! The chemical missiles of nod left all but the artic wastelands infected! They're not telling what the tacitus is doing, the screenies are showing trees covered in tiberium. The last clean places are being affected by the atmosphere itself. The amount of oxygen in the atmosphere has dwindled and gaseous tiberium is poisoning the world. Didn't they mention the atmosphere'd be 100% toxic in a year/few months? Ooh, yes, they did... And lookie! We have clean blue zones! QUICK_EDIT
I agree with TitanMarkII, and about the darkness of TS , actually,it was ment to be far worse, light post would have been part of the builidng construction list and tiberian mutation would have gone way further, more mutants too,btw .
but in C&C3,we see deserts with normal grass!!! we see nice blue water, and good weather,what happened with all the mutation?? ion storms,etc??!!!!
Also, I have one little question ,they say Kane was cloned by CABAL in the end of TS:FS , but if he would have been cloned, he wouldn't have that metal plate on his head, cuz it would have been like he was reborn completely and as far as I remember, metal plates don't grow on your head. And don't tell me he's been mutated or some kind of disease, cuz cabal descifred the tacitus, and that had enough knowledge to reverse anything like that.
and yes,the tittle sucks, ,if they're afraid of twilight sounding like the end, they could make another part naming it ; tiberian eclipse (I dunno,maybe it sounds bad, but tiberiUM WARS sounds even worse,sounds like f*cking sh*t to me). a good title they say,yeah right ,a good title,Kane's arse,man aaagh, I soooo loved TD and TS, but with EA it's going nowhere, same thing happened with dungeon keeper QUICK_EDIT
that at least.
and you shouldnt try to understand a rant covered in sexual content (now i say that, it really sounds like its against the forums rules)
I don't know what those 'dick cunt titties' things are. Anyway back on topic. The Light Post should be in the build list? It has no function other than to light up an area. Especially in Duelling Islands 2. It was soo black! QUICK_EDIT
I've read that maps would have been much darker ,and visibility would have been limited . because of that,you should have built light post .
I can tell you this, we all like TS , and if they could have done all they intended to do,man... woohoo
WW knew how to make cool games,not like EA ,that just buy up other companies,make a sequel to a very good game, give it some better graphics, maybe improve some things about the gameplay, but the storyline and everything that matters ... they just don't have a clue Last edited by k212 on Mon May 29, 2006 8:49 am; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 11:32 am Post subject:
Destiny wrote:
I wish Westwood Studios would be up again, not EA.
Meh... keep this bullcrap away from this forum. Even if Westwood was ressurected to create C&C games, it would be the same studio renamed... so, forget it, for once. Westwood is dead. Rest In Peace. EALA are the guys working on it. QUICK_EDIT
Well, Westwood was ressurected (almost). Remember Petroglyph? But they either don't give a damn about C&C anymore or they can't because C&C is property of EA. But this is it. Westwood is dead and so are the true and original C&C games. Let's be happy by modding the future crap games that EA will release.
Back on topic. The title is indeed kinda dumb and crappy. I mean the older games had Tiberian in the title, so why having Tiberium now? It sounds like the there's a war between tiberium and humans, or maybe EA tries to make everyone forgert the older C&C games. QUICK_EDIT
I agree with the lack of continuity arguement - the name doesn't fit. But as they don't want the name to seem like the end i have a bad feeling they will try to milk the series for all that it is worth - unto its death.
Oh, and Supreme commander looks SWEET
(http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.php?playlist_id=466&s=l - Full length trailer ) _________________ Organised Rules.ini by Judeau QUICK_EDIT
I've seen SC before and it looks great, even in the beta stages. I will buy a new PC when it comes out, fully upgraded and with tons of RAM and a giant HD. EA has a lot to do with TW before I'm actually start liking it, because I don't think it'll be a good game and unless they change it I'm not going to buy it. QUICK_EDIT
Understand EA logic - if the make it "Tiberian Twilight" or "Tiberian Dusk", it means that the whole universe came to its logical end, and EA won't be able to drain money from this franchise and its fans, so they made it in the way of making more "tiberium" games and grabbing money. Simple. QUICK_EDIT
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Tiberium Wars title is official.
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and tiberian mutation would have gone way further, more mutants too,btw .
. Yeah on money 
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