Unit Specific debris ?

SMIFFGIG · Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:36 pm Post subject: Unit Specific debris ?

Now im almost 100% sure this can be done but what i am doing just doesnt work

i have my 4tnk (mammoth tank) and want it so when it explodes its turret comes flying off

I make a new voxel animation called 4tnkturret (just using 4tnktur dont work) and make it an exact copy of the 4tnk tur and put it in my echache02 (or just in SUN.dir tried both) i then give the debris these rules

[4TNKTURRET]
Name=Mammoth Tank Turret
ShareTurretData=yes
ShareSource=4TNK
Elasticity=0.0
MinAngularVelocity=10.0
MaxAngularVelocity=14.0
MinZVel=30.0
MaxZVel=38.0
MaxXYVel=8.0
Duration=100
ExpireAnim=TWLT036
Damage=30
DamageRadius=50
Warhead=TankOGas

and im not sure if u have to do this but just incase add it to this
ExplosiveVoxelDebris=GASTANK,PIECE,4TNKTURRET (Have tried calling it 4TNKDEBRIS too not that i makes any difference what so ever)

ive also added it to the [VoxelAnimations] list + given the mammoth tank

MaxDebris=6
DebrisTypes=4TNKTURRET
DebrisMaximums=1

But it dont appear, ive got to the stage where an invisble object comes out of the mammoth tank but no turret. Why is this , what am i doing wrong i dont see it

anyway thanx for any help in advance
ill get on with the deployable terror drone or something im fed up with debris for now #Tongue

-SMIFFGIG

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SMIFFGIG · Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:41 pm Post subject: Interesting Tiberium Debris

P.S. Something very strange i noticed

look at the tiberium types

they have

Debris=CRYSTAL1,CRYSTAL2,CRYSTAL3,CRYSTAL4

well exploding tiberium dont give u any debris, i then noticed in the original Rules.ini there wasnt even such a tag as "Debris=" and it had for tiberium types "Shard="
so i tried

Shard=CRYSTAL1,CRYSTAL2,CRYSTAL3,CRYSTAL4

but still no debris, funnily the crystal debris are .tem or .sno files and are obviously in the temperate.mix or snow.mix

either way i cant get exploding tiberium to display these debris types

i was also trying to make it so that NAREFN and HARV both exploded with LOADS of crystal debris

but so far for whatever reason i have had utterly no success with debris of any kind lol

Any ideas?

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Banshee · Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2003 9:10 pm Post subject:

hmmm... that's not my area.... sincerily...

hellfire · Commander **Joined**: 09 Jan 2003 **Location**: Canada

I've seen it done with an attack cycle. WHen they blew up the whole body would fly up and bounce around, and I thought I saw the code for it but I dont remember I'll have a look tommorw maybe.

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All hail me

SMIFFGIG · Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 11:10 am Post subject:

in an old version of my mod i had the Jeep (crate goodie) fly up when it got destroyed

but i got rid of this as it would fly up in the air even if destroyed by machine gun fire or veins etc so it just looked dumb

but as i said i cant get it to work now (with 4tnk turret anyway)

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The DvD · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 4:09 pm Post subject:

I've experimented with this in my mod, and I now have a Nod Buggy, Attack Cycle, mammoth tank, and disruptor with bodies/turrets that fly off.... but not always... in fact, most of the times not... I have debristypes=BGGYBODY, and debrismaximums=1.... isn't there a way to set a minimum number of debristypes??? Debrisminimums doesn't work...

SMIFFGIG · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 4:43 pm Post subject:

did u put the debris entries just in the
[VoxelAnimations] in the rules.ini or did you put them in the art.ini too

plus did u refer to the actual unit for the debries e.g. 4TNKTUR or did u copy the turret and name it something else like 4TNKTURRET and then refer to it ?

-SMIFFGIG

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The DvD · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 8:34 am Post subject:

I added something like BGGYBODY to the voxelanim list. I copied [gastank] and changed the name to BGGYBODY and the image to BGGY. I then changed some speed and duration values... and added debristypes=BGGYBODY,TIRE to the nod buggy... and debrismaximums=1,4
(So that means 1 body, and 4 tires flying off... well sometimes, as it's just a maximum)

for the mammoth tank i copied the disruptor turret debris... (it was already there), and named it 4TNKTURRET, and I added this to the voxelanim list.
It has Image=4TNKTUR and ShareTurretSource=4TNK, then I added DebrisTypes=4TNKTURRET to the mammoth tank.

I didn't really tested the mammoth tank however.... but the buggy works great.

The DvD · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 8:36 am Post subject:

And I didn't add anything in the art.ini, btw

Sapp726 · Grenadier **Joined**: 16 Aug 2002

dude thats nothing new and it does work, maybe you have the settings as low grphical or something but it does work

TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

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SMIFFGIG · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 3:58 pm Post subject:

i done all what u said I really dont get why it wasnt working

ill have another crack at it today Crying or Very sad

probably something really dumb i missed out or something

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SMIFFGIG · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 5:29 pm Post subject:

[4TNKTURRET]
Name=Mammoth Tank Turret
Image=4TNKTUR
ShareTurretData=yes
ShareSource=4TNK
Elasticity=0.0
MinAngularVelocity=10.0
MaxAngularVelocity=14.0
MinZVel=30.0
MaxZVel=38.0
MaxXYVel=8.0
Duration=100
ExpireAnim=TWLT036
Damage=30
DamageRadius=50
Warhead=TankOGas

[4TNK]
MaxDebris=6
DebrisTypes=4TNKTURRET
DebrisMaximums=1

[VoxelAnims]
5=4TNKTURRET

thats in reverse order

and it dont work :S
ive yet to try the whole body flying off but so far the turret dont work. I dont get it im sure its something im doing wrong anyone got any ideas?
DebrisMaximums=1

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The DvD · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 10:31 am Post subject:

Yeah, I also had some probs with the mammoth turret debris.... however i have a titan with it's gun flying off.... that's cool

Maybe remove the shareturretdata stuff and just set image=4tnktur

OR

copy 4tnktur from your tibsun.mix -> local.mix (including the .hva, not sure) and rename to something like 4TNKDEBRIS, then give your debris this image... (add 4TNKDEBRIS to your expandxx.mix)

SMIFFGIG · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 2:43 pm Post subject:

Quote:

copy 4tnktur from your tibsun.mix -> local.mix (including the .hva, not sure) and rename to something like 4TNKDEBRIS, then give your debris this image... (add 4TNKDEBRIS to your expandxx.mix)

lol tried this too :S, i thought about removing the share data thingy ill do that later see if it works

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SMIFFGIG · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 5:02 pm Post subject:

WooHoo ive done it

Now every unit in TS Retro with a turret and/or barrel has specific debris Smile

It looks so cool screenies will follow shortly on the Tiberian Sun Retro forums

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TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

SMIFFGIG is it possible to have at least 1 peice of debris pop out ever time. like have Minimumdebris=1?

SMIFFGIG · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 5:07 pm Post subject:

I have only touched into this area so far

and as it stands its random weather the specific debris comes out or not with the debris appearing the majority of the time 70% i would say

ill get back to you though ive stilll alot to experiment with Smile

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The DvD · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:48 am Post subject:

Yes, it's probably a 70% chance to get a debris piece.... I'm also working on specific unit debris... and light unit fly away completely... this is cool!