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Alex06
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Joined: 21 Sep 2003
Location: Montreal, Canada

PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:35 am    Post subject:  OMFG Help!
Subject description: SOMETHING happened!
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Yep...but this time, it's not your help I need to fix the error, but I need to know WHAT happened. Please, read the entire thing. Be arsed to do it...it's also an interesting error/bug/whatever...I'm begging you guys to not be lazy... Sad

1st of all, I was downloading a game, yes, it was about 1gb long (it was legal, trust me). Around the time I started the bittorent application, it started slowing down my PC...What happened, I dunno, I opened a video file with Windows media player 11. then, my PC froze. I restarted. It seemed to keep going on like that everytime I opened the video, though it didn't seem to be the problem, as someone else I had sent the video via MSN said it worked fine for him, although I dunno if he was using WMP11...HOWEVER, I restarted my PC, thinking it was nothing, that just my Bittorrent application was slowing down my computer due to the fact it uses Java. Anyways, I let my PC on like that for all night, woke up in the late morning, and I saw everything downloaded. Sometimes, I let my PC on at night, and during 2 days in total before making a shut down and letting it cool down. It never caused a problem. Then, later today, I ended up filling my desktop with alot of s*** (don't even ask...), like sprites, videos, 3d models, a game modification and other downloads (NO, nothing illegal, nudity or pr0n). It eventually got off screen, and when I started the bittorrent application to test if that was the error, it slowed down my PC again. I managed to close it, and to fix the lag. However, I compiled a large 1gb file into a rar and separated the winrar archive in 6. I had to close down every or almost every other process running, even explorer.exe (the desktop and start bar, not internet explorer) and iexplore.exe (internet explorer). I did that, and then I split the archive. I ended up deleting it late at night, I found that I wouldn't need split archives. However, I had to do this at first because I couldn't copy something into my E: partition (but my C: partition, which is another HDD, and my D: partition (main HDD partition, where windows is installed, 10gb), seemed to work fine!) The E: partition was other programs I installed and linked to D:, the main partition, in case something destroyed my Master/Main Windows (XP Media Center 2005) partition. At first, I tried copying a file off a DVD into the E: drive. I thought it was caused due to my s***** old DVD reader, which did sometimes cause some errors like that. However, my PC ended up ****ing up when I ran about 10 programs (Win. Live Messenger, Winamp, internet, winrar, windows explorer (explorer.exe), Adobe photoshop 9, Acrobat Reader 7 and the Windows XP image viewer). Just before that, I was gone eating, and windows had earlier during the day, downloaded some updates from Microsoft using Windows Update. It kept asking me to restart, I always clicked "Restart Later", then it started giving me the same request, but with a 5 minute timer. While I was gone eating, it DID send me that popup warning, and it reseted the PC. When I came back, I got back into my account (the only account on my PC, which has NO password to it) and started some programs. It was also then that I had done the split archive with Winrar. Then it f***** up later, due to me running too much stuff (or was it?) and I pressed the reset button on my PC. (The same thing also happened before it happened then, it was also AFTER the windows update thingy, THEN I couldn't copy files from the DVD, but I didn't know that I could before, I also thought maybe the file was too big or the DVD was messed up) I decided to reset, and when I did, it came into Windows again. I saw a shortcut on my desktop had lost it's icon. It was an installed program, I never changed it or uninstalled it myself, it was Nero Startsmart 7. When right clicked on it to edit it, it started lagging. It eventually made the dropdown menu appear, but it STILL lagged everytime I right clicked. My internet connection wouldn't seem to work anymore. I retyped it's username and password and all. I reconnected the cable. NOTHING. It still failed. It appeared a balloon telling me it would always retry to connect until I told it to stop. It also said to click on the ballon to try to fix the error. I did, and I clicked repair connection. It still failed. Then I went back to my Shortcut without an icon, and I went to E:/

Goddarn it! My "Program Files" folder, along with half of the folders I had in there disappeared! So I typed onto the My computer bar (in E: with explorer.exe, those folders were absent too) "E:/Program Files". It did load. My program files folder would not show up in E:, but it was still there, it wasn't gone. Probably same for the others, but I had quite some, I forgot their names. It wasn't hidden either, at least, I don't think so, I set up my PC to show up hidden folders anyways. There was no Windows folder or OS in the E drive. Only in C and D drives. The D wasn't infected or had this problem, and the C was a secondary Hard Disk drive, not part of the main 160gb Hard Disk Drive that the D and E partitions were part of. I didn't test the D drive, but it seemed alright, nothing was missing from it or hiding. I just thought it happened to be a little problem because I either resetted my PC too much when it froze (waited 30 to 60 seconds each time, if it failed to respond again, I'd reset. Sometimes it didn't and other times it unfroze after a few seconds) or that it overheated for being active 2 days in a row without any shut down. But I remembered, when I close the other things because my PC lagged, I closed a certain Svchost.exe, which took up 44,500k (or were there more zeros?) of memory in my processes (the one that took THE MOST memory) using task manager. It closed, then soon after, I dunno what I did, but my PC lagged alot and froze. I resetted and it was all broken like I just said when I restarted. All this stuff didn't happen before, 2 days ago. I that the Svchost thingy I closed was updated by Windows Update, as I checked the "WindowsUpdate.txt" (or .log) log in D:/Windows after the latest windows update (today, at about 6-7pm), and it seemed to have updated a Svchost.exe (there's normally 4 or 5 svchosts.exe running in background). However, this is odd, since it should've rather asked me to restart my PC with a timer or it would've stopped my internet connection or desktop until the next restart or until I shut down my PC/closed my session, and closing one of these never cause so much trouble before. I moved all my important files from D: and E: (especially my desktop on E:/) into the C: drive. Though there's 250mb left on my C: drive and I have some other things on my E: drive I'd like to put on a mobile HDD to not lose them if I reformat or whatever I'll do. (Although I'm always thankful, my C: drive, the one where I store alot of stuff, and that I consider the most important, is always safe somehow. My E: drive is the second most important one. As for my D: drive, it isn't too important, I have Acronis Trueimage and a backup of the D: Drive on my E: drive.) So if I can copy some stuff from my E: drive into my C: drive (thank god windows is still working, and that the E: Drive hasn't my files I want to evacuate made corrupted)

My DVD/CD reader is F: and my DVD/CD Burner and reader is G:, plus I have this fake one that appears as H: on my computer, but I don't have 3 DVD/CD drives, neither diskette drives.
Also, my PC is running on this:
Gforce 7800 GTX 256mb
2gb RAM memory
Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
AMD Athlon XP 64x Dual Core 3200+ (acts like two 2ghz processors)
160gb HDD SATA2 (MASTER HDD, with 2 partitions; main one is D: (10gb) and secondary is E: (150gb))
80gb HDD ATA (Slave HDD, never got infected or affected by anything unless if I did anything to it myself on purpose, and it's still fine)

Although I had some errors with my motherboard, telling me my Processor fan wasn't working or at least, not working correctly. I kept resetting when it appeared, it would seem to fix it. Now it seems to not appear anymore at all. I checked on the internetfor the error and I found it was that ASUS motherboard. I was about to change it soon, since I hear it can burn the PC, but I opened my PC case...and it didn't smell like something burned at all. it was a bit heated, but not something even remotely close to burnig. Everything seemed fine, the Hard Disk Drives, the processor, fans, motherboard (I Didn't check the power supply though , and it's probalby too late, my PC has been left open for an hour or more, so the heat is completely gone), everything! nothing burned or even smelling like it. Everything seemed to run smoothly. Oh, and finally, keep in mind that when the PC froze for the first time, due to my little Torrent client which runs JAVA (it was running when the PC froze, I opened a video in WMP11, a 7mb .WMV videofile to be exact), I was also downloading a soundtrack, which finished when I resetted, and I found the entire songs in the recycle bin, when I never put 'em there at all and they were downloaded completely and working fine.

So, was I hacked, was it an overheating because my PC ran for 2 days straight, is it a virus, did Microsoft break my PC (I had a MCE 2005 of XP that wasn't activated online with a genuine validation) is it a PC crash, did I break it myself when I ended the svchost.exe process task (though I highly doubt it, because symptons of all this had appeared more than 12 hours ago) an error because I resetted too much or with the calculations that the computer did wrong or did the police do something to my PC? (I wouldn't expect that last one, though...)

Nothing seemed to have installed itself (no virus, I checked the entire windows folder in D:/), and I didn't install anything at all during all those 2 days.

So...anyone knows what happened? This is most weird...It's like all the problems, but it's like none at the same time...Can anyone shed a light here? And hey, is there even a way to fix it at worst? Or should I wait and my PC will cool down and start correctly? Was it really overheated to work correctly and calculate stuff smoothly? Should I disconnect everything from inside and outside my PC, the HDD power cable, Graphics card and reconnect them? Will that fix the computer's problem with the E: drive? (keep in mind, I saw no virus in there or the D: drive, neither for the C: drive if I remember correctly...and there was still no Windows folder in E:...) Anyone here knows?

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Fellshyun
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Joined: 04 Apr 2005
Location: Harderwijk, NL

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You still got this problem?
And yea I actually took the time to read it all.
And why didn't you chose another topic name, you sound like a noob with your omfg help.
No wonder that nobody replied, apart from the fact that a lot off members are just to lazy to read the whole thing.

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Havoc
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Joined: 04 Jan 2005
Location: Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Maybe it's late. I didn't notice the topic before.

Well, your PC isn't the problem at all (2GB RAM, it shouldn't slow down at all). But keeping your desktop full of icons slows down your video card.
Also it's good to restart your pc daily at least to refresh the memory.
Anyway, did you defragmented your hard disk? Did you do a full system virus scan? And what AV do you use.

If yes for the first two question, well, hacked or virus I suppose or spyware. Torrents aren't really safe and I usually avoid using them. Because it's one of the best illegal stuff spreading p2ps, it's also very risky to get viruses.

As a last question, for how long do you have Windows installed?

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TerroR
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Joined: 25 Aug 2002
Location: UK

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well I read like 2 lines, cba with it all. You need to throw azerus into the bin and use utorrent, doesnt lag ur comp up with java and stuff. noticed the word WMP, that thing is shit i'v had loads of problem with it, like minimising from a game and deciding to take a look at some porn but it only plays sound, so I decided to close the game to view it but it then froze my pc....

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Havoc
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Joined: 04 Jan 2005
Location: Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, Windows Media Player is the crappiest player ever. BSPlayer is nice and free.

I'm using (once per year maybe) Bit Comet. It doesn't lag at all and is pretty nice because it has chat, internet browser and other thing (that I never used).

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Tyler Adams
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Joined: 08 Oct 2004
Location: Back in black.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Havoc wrote:
Yeah, Windows Media Player is the crappiest player ever. BSPlayer is nice and free.


WinAmp's good.

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Suiseiseki
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Joined: 06 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

From glancing over you basically seem to have basically did too much shit with it and left it running too long potentially crashing your HD. Glancing of course skimming and seeing stuff like you were raring 1 gig files and torrenting.

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Torrents aren't really safe and I usually avoid using them. Because it's one of the best illegal stuff spreading p2ps, it's also very risky to get viruses.


I'm going to cry 'bullshit' on this. As long as you get the shit from a decent tracker you have an extremely minimal chance of getting a virus and if you do - tough shit. You're downloading crap illegally, there are no completely safe source to do it. If you're NOT an idiot you'll scan everything you download.
Torrents are probably one of the safest sources to get stuff from as usually ANYTHING with a virus will have a comment saying so and is usually purged from the trackers it was on within hours of the first fully leeched copy.

Oh and Azureus is only laggy if you have a piece of shit for a PC and even then usually purely when checking file integrity. Personally I prefer it over µTorrent.

And finally, WinAmp is superior.

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DonutArnold
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Joined: 18 Jan 2005
Location: Finland

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have the newest version of µTorrent and it does have some problems with ADSL modem/ports. I pissed off, because my ADSL modem is a lil' piece of shit, but still it's quite good. Then I moved to use BitComet which is faster as download speeds, but it uses more memory than µTorrent. I prefer them both, but if you do have some problems with ports/forwarding/etc., you should use BitComet then.

Actually I haven't got any viruses from torrents, yet...

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Havoc
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Location: Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I still don't really trust torrents. Maybe I didn't I use them too much and didn't pay any attention to it's evolution, so maybe I'm a bit off with it.

Winamp is the coolest, but not for movies. Sometimes it does like WMP: doesn't show you the video part, only plays the sound with the right codecs. But I always use it.

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