Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:43 pm Post subject:
i think this is pretty interresting
Subject description: BETA TS Prerelease Video
I found this by browsing on youtube, in this video are short scenes of TS gameplay BEFORE it was released and features were cut out, you'll notice that explosions are still resized to look smaller, but some of them are sill nice and more bigger appearing TWLT ones.
Plus the zoom function in action and other features, hold the eyes open
the video is really a teaser video before the game came out, you can see it in the end where it shows the TS box including the release date...
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject:
Summer 1999 I can't believe it!
woot!
I played the game for so long!
But I can't see any difference between this and actual gameplay! _________________ DUNK! QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject:
w00t! i never saw the part of the titan walking trough that tunnel/factory with its cannon pointed up. any more stuff thats not shown in the game? _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
working zoom function, the original TS mouse cursor, it seems that the dropship bay wasn't cut out on the stage of the game, related to the drop bay cutscene, orca bomber looks a lot better than the released pile of shit ...thats what i can count now _________________ Hydraw Art on Facebook QUICK_EDIT
if you look close in the above posted video you see it all in the short scenes, its all there....
there's nothing more _________________ Hydraw Art on Facebook QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject:
hmm. the dropships in the first mission look different (better) but i could also be caused by the crappy resolution.
the cursor look cool indeed.
orca fighter seems to look different too.
there was a flash of the MCV too, which ive never seen high-def apart from the renders.
i love the scene on the beach, with the APCs
the titan scene i mentioned earlier is just the coolest ever.
still didnt see the bomber though, and i dont really think that you saw a zoom function either, it IS a trailer after all. _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
errrr....the zoom function is clearly there....it was implemented in TS first ask the veterans of these forums, ok i think i made a mistake with the bomber it is rather the fighter, dropship look cool yea...because grey parts were on all beta aircrafts and looked VERY good..... _________________ Hydraw Art on Facebook QUICK_EDIT
plus... in one clip the titan is deployed, or at one point the units used building style select boxes...
I used to think this too, but if you look closely it is actually a building which is selected..
Orca Bomber FMV
There is also a lost FMV (with no sound) of Orca Bombers napalming a load of Cyborg Repears. I would assume it was cut as it was made for TS and it included Cyborg Repears (which along with quite a few other things where purposely held back to put into the addon)
3rd damage stage!
Another interesting thing (possibly in the clip above "havent watched it but ive seen them all before") is the usage of the 3rd damage stage on a couple of buildings (GAPOWR being one I remember offhand)
Zoom Feature
The Zoom feature was included but later dropped from TS before its release
Beta Cursor
The green cursor which is shown in the beta is the exact same one used in TSR, it is hidden away in the SUN.exe (not to be confused with the Game.exe)
Dropship Voxel DSHP
The dropship voxel in this clip is actually the dropship without its cargo pod thing (look at Goochy's renders, you will see the dropship actually has a seperate cargo 'pod' which has its own tracks too) There are renders showing the dropship with and without this 'pod'
MCV/Dropship Bay FMV
The scene with the MCV reinforcement being unloaded was cut from the game (I assume due to it including the Dropship Bay which was excluded from the game)
Pre-release Main Menu
Also there was at one time a German clip that was flying around the net(GameStar?) that showed a VERY impressive pre-release main menu.
It was as animated and more impressive than the RA2 main menu (such a shame they opted for the crappy one used in the final (which marginally improved in the FS addon)) _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:39 pm Post subject:
WW stopped themselves...they photoshop half the ingame screenshots, have decent looking units, a non-shoebox looking flame tank, and then they dump it all for a toned down pile of crap game hardly worth the absurd prices people payed for it.
Anybody have a still of this 'podless dropship' btw? _________________ PPM's Reichstrollfuherer, 236th Trollenparties brigade. QUICK_EDIT
Pre-release Main Menu
Also there was at one time a German clip that was flying around the net(GameStar?) that showed a VERY impressive pre-release main menu.
It was as animated and more impressive than the RA2 main menu (such a shame they opted for the crappy one used in the final (which marginally improved in the FS addon))
If anyone has a pic of it, please DO show me this old animated Pre-release menu for TS!
As for TS beta not being photoshopped, you guys are dead wrong! They photoshopped the zoom anim, and look at that video! The mini-map is copied and pasted on the interface! It's not even on a black background! And the mini-map clearly stays the same with location zoom on the same place when it changes completely of map! WTF! The player dosen't even have tech centers and heliports and he can build Orca Bombers? PHOTOSHOPPED. QUICK_EDIT
As for TS beta not being photoshopped, you guys are dead wrong! They photoshopped the zoom anim, and look at that video!
What the?
Idiot06 wrote:
The mini-map is copied and pasted on the interface! It's not even on a black background!
.. wtf?
Alex06 wrote:
And theThe player dosen't even have tech centers and heliports and he can build Orca Bombers? PHOTOSHOPPED.
..
Who says those bombers were player controlled? There's such a thing as 'triggered strikes', such as several bombers spawning somewhere offmap, then flying onmap & hitting a target. _________________ "Banned" RP here QUICK_EDIT
DUDE. THE SIDEBAR. LOOK AT THE GODDAMN SIDEBAR! PAY ATTENTION TO IT!
In the video, look at the 2:23 to 2:26. The sidebar dosen't change once and it is clearly photoshopped (The mini-map is pasted onto the sidebar! Look at it, the radar isn't even active, you can see a part of the GDI logo that was pasted on) while the ingame battlefield switches to another map!
All I was talking about was the sidebar! (You can't even build GDI bombers on the first mission!) QUICK_EDIT
Now for the simple explanation:
The sidebar is the same for all the different maps you see during the video.
This means two things:
One, the sidebar is a static image layered over top the video.
Two, because the video was not recorded with the sidebar in place, the zooming is done with video editing and was not ever a feature in the game.
Anyone who says otherwise is blind to the facts and a complete ignoramus.
Zoom in a 2D game is stupid anyways. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:45 am Post subject:
Icyson is God...*bows*
Everybody blames EA for making 'westwood rush TS', Can you BLAME EA? This game was the nail in the coffin for Westwood Studios. The most overhyped media blitzkreig, the tossing around of photoshopped screenshots and constant singsongs of wonderful ideas that never made the game or got held back for the X-pack while Westwood praticed their Adobe Photoshop skills on cartoony infantry and pasting the same sidebar onto new screenshots.
You pratically need Firestorm to make this game playable and get anything close to a true Tiberian atmosphere(Or some maps posted on PPM. ). The fans make better maps, better units, better graphics then a group of professionals who got PAYED to make this garbage, just think about that....is that bad or what? _________________ PPM's Reichstrollfuherer, 236th Trollenparties brigade. QUICK_EDIT
EA doing the CNC series was the best thing that could happen to the CNC franchise, to be honest. And yes Carno and Icy, I agree with the both of you. QUICK_EDIT
Hey, I never said EA are the best at it!
I just said that it's best that happened for the franchise SO FAR. If someone else could do it and do it much better, I wouldn't complain.
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For gods sake people, quit with all the caps and huge writting, especially if your point is badly written.
And just for the record, the zoom function is still in TS, but you can only activate it via triggers
so Alex05 and IcySon55 please stfu, your posts are ridiculous
Stop posting garbage as if its fact, when I make posts I tend to either already know what im talking about or do a small bit of "research" (reading) before i make a point... I certainly do not make it up as I go along
This sort of spamming is more annoying than bot spamming, because some people might actually believe the crap you two post.
Especially Alex05, I noticed you posted loads of made up crap about Tiberium Wars as if it were fact!.... quit it
So posting my opinion or what I think is crap? Thanks...that feels nice!
I'm allowed to post predictions, I don't always have to say "I predict this, I predict that" all the time. I can't make up facts like that. I just make predictions. Keep that in mind, they are GUESSES, not facts, and sometimes I just post rumors of what I hear on the EA forums, but I never said they're facts. It's like "Well, that's what I heard".
Also, it clearly looks like in that video that it has been edited. For goodness' sake! It clearly looks like the zoom is a video edit, and not ingame, you can see the pixels on the VOXELS getting bigger, when they shouldn't infact look like the same pixels but larger, it should look zoomed in (since the voxel is a 3d figuer). It clearly looks edited, and not just for that, but for also other obvious reasons I will not repeat, because I don't need to feed myself out of your lazyness. Thank you for your time, I don't wish to fight you, Smiff. QUICK_EDIT
I never said TS doesn't have zooming. I said it doesn't have a zoom feature. There's a difference. A feature is something the player controls or has at least some control over. Triggering a zoom with map triggers hardly qualifies as user controlled. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Trigger Zooming is possible, but not as a feature. What I meant by "photoshopped" is edited. They edited the video to make it look like a zooming function. QUICK_EDIT
Am I the only person who has seen that FMV of the titan before? Like during the GDI campaign :S. Also didn't tumsun have an fmv of the Dropship that wasn't included? _________________ QUICK_EDIT
@ Morpher
The FMV with the titan inside the building (dam) was included in TS... but it was on the Nod CD, so it was never used >_> _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Now for the simple explanation:
The sidebar is the same for all the different maps you see during the video.
This means two things:
One, the sidebar is a static image layered over top the video.
Two, because the video was not recorded with the sidebar in place, the zooming is done with video editing and was not ever a feature in the game.
Anyone who says otherwise is blind to the facts and a complete ignoramus.
Zoom in a 2D game is stupid anyways.
Yeah except you know, it's not a static image. You can clearly see the square icon thing which shows you where you're looking move as the camera pans.
The unit icons indeed do not move, but at least some of it was generated as the game was played. It's quite possible they put a new sidebar over the top to make it look fancier rather than just having the light infantry available.
The zoom is likely fake however - but you can't say there NEVER was a feature as you NEVER had access to the betas.
Also interesting to see some of the FS cutscenes used there. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject:
Um, the Orca bombers vid shown in that video is just empulse.vqa from the GDI disk. You know, the EMP cannon video.
Carnivean wrote:
Also interesting to see some of the FS cutscenes used there.
... FS had cutscenes? There was the mobile stealth and juggernaut movie, but I don't think they were ever shown ingame.
Morpher wrote:
Also didn't tumsun have an fmv of the Dropship that wasn't included?
It was hardly an FMV... if you pause that movie up there ^ on 3:05, in the flashing scenes, you get to see the dropship images. The vid on tumsun was just those 5 or 6 frames put behind eachother with fade effects.
I actually got a longer part of it, with sound, from the TFD extras DVD. Still only 2 seconds or so.
I also got the full length version (without sound) of the Mobile EMP video from the TFD extras, but it's very crappy quality, and only 225x115 pixels -_- _________________ QUICK_EDIT
I believe the cutscene showing the Titan raping the Nod dam was supposed to be included in the mission, where GDI (player) needs to destroy Nod general Vega's hydrolic dams.
Btw, that FMV, where the Drop Pod Trooper shoots two cyborgs, why are the cyborgs shooting a GDI base, with Nod buildings inside??? There is clearly a Nod temple inside! Was there supposed to be a mission where Nod is trying to "free" their base? _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:20 pm Post subject:
Its probably an example of WW's 'brilliance', i doubt its a captured GDI base...they might have not had any GDI buildings modeled at the time or just didnt care what was inside. _________________ PPM's Reichstrollfuherer, 236th Trollenparties brigade. QUICK_EDIT
Um, the Orca bombers vid shown in that video is just empulse.vqa from the GDI disk. You know, the EMP cannon video.
Thats a different vid, there is also one (without sound) which was not included in TS which shows a group of Orca Bombers napalming a group of Cyborg Reapers (although the cyborg reaper model is not textured as well as the one shown in the FS Render)
here is a still of the FMV, although the FMV is not as high quality as this screenie (sorry could only find thumbnails)
Its probably an example of WW's 'brilliance', i doubt its a captured GDI base...they might have not had any GDI buildings modeled at the time or just didnt care what was inside.
I have a feeling it was a captured temple...it kinda looked like it. :3 _________________ ... QUICK_EDIT
nice one chriz, thats the crappy capture i took and put on tumsun, its literally just a collection of screenshots I put into a .gif
The original is part of a much larger file full of FMV's which where in the game (which is why i only extracted a few screenies rather than posting the whole movie)
The original was on one of the artists websites (not Gooch and not Jack Martin afaik) _________________ QUICK_EDIT
About the zoom feature, you actually see him zooming in in the video, gradually. Given the levelled nature of the zoom, it looks as though it was done with a mouse wheel. _________________ Organised Rules.ini by Judeau QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:35 am Post subject:
SMIFFGIG wrote:
Thats a different vid, there is also one (without sound) which was not included in TS which shows a group of Orca Bombers napalming a group of Cyborg Reapers (although the cyborg reaper model is not textured as well as the one shown in the FS Render)
Oh yeah, got that one too.
I have been considering remaking the sound of it, like I did with the RA Tesla Tank & Tanya Escape video, but I haven't gotten around to doing it. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
No - this video don't photoshopped
100% right.
Also don't forget what it probably a very early engine. _________________ ARM forever - x86 sucks QUICK_EDIT
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i think this is pretty interresting
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). The fans make better maps, better units, better graphics then a group of professionals who got PAYED to make this garbage, just think about that....is that bad or what?
