A friend I have at uni is going insane about it, he has ordered it, and its at his home (not his uni home).
I can't wait for him to go home, and try it out, and find out how incredibly anal it'll be.
I plan on building a new system, and it'll run XP and Linux. I have no intention of building up a new system only to have it run as slow as much current system, because Vista is such a resource hog, as well as disabling half of the fancy stuff because of its DRM.
So yeah.. in a word. No. _________________ If there is a problem on the forums, PM me. QUICK_EDIT
I might get it for free (via university) to see what it's like but i'd need another pc to put it on, not risking ztyping up this pc. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject:
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I plan on buying it because I like the features.
Thank you for making me laugh, best joke I've read in days.
Seriously, though, Vista is XP with a new skin, some pointless features (yes, let's use pen drives as a pagefile despite their limited write times!), stupidly reorganised menus for "simplicity" (or buried in hundreds of submenus) and then don't forget the silly amounts of DRM included. Oh, and SP1 was announced the other day. _________________
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject:
i wasnt planning on aquiring it illegally, even though it mightve seemed so. i was hoping i could have my dad, or some other relative, pay for it. so no, im not going to buy but "somehow aquire" it, like i said before.
and clazzy, vista does have nice features, and it completely rocks. i dont know why ppl are bitching about it so much, especially about it stealing ideas from other OS's, because now the best of multiple worlds is joined.
(note: best doesnt have to mean good, even though i personally think vista rocks.) _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:56 pm Post subject:
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clazzy, vista does have nice features, and it completely rocks. i dont know why ppl are bitching about it so much, especially about it stealing ideas from other OS's, because now the best of multiple worlds is joined.
For example? Tell me about something Vista does which is beneficial and can't already be done in XP (with a third party program). _________________
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tests have shown basically all games and other programs run significantly slower in it.
the Vista games look very badly programmed.
copyright protection will be much more aggressive in it and even XP has stopped allowing me to play perfectly legal DVDs in Windows Media Player although they work fine in PowerDVD, so imagine how bad this stupid situation will get with Vista. i heard rumours that Vista will disable certain of your hardware if it detects copyright infringement. i don't know if it means temporarily or permanently but anyway, since Microsoft says my DVDs are violating copyrights even though they are not (and i went through a lot of trouble to get them because i have to get them from another country since i live in an islamic country), you can imagine i want to say they can go to hell. QUICK_EDIT
Vista can do DX10. Which XP can't [I think I am correct saying that]
So, I'll probably end up having to buy it. Especially if I get a new computer. _________________ Organised Rules.ini by Judeau QUICK_EDIT
That shows just how badly the DRM in Vista screws things over.
If anything it goes against what it was trying to achieve, and forces genuine customers to look for alternatives to get around the system.
I'm sorry, but even with DX10, I'm not getting Vista. _________________ If there is a problem on the forums, PM me. QUICK_EDIT
Don't get me wrong, I really don't want to buy it
But if some really good games come out running only on DX10, then I'll either have to buy them for my 360. Or... not play them, I suppose. I'm not forking out that kinda money, come to think of it! _________________ Organised Rules.ini by Judeau QUICK_EDIT
i dont really see any reason why i would want to get vista,its just like an expansion back,just like frozen throne and warcraft III.
i may only get it for halo,since it may only run on vista,but the rest is just same.ive got the greatest xp version(in my mind),so i dont think i will need it. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
They probably can, and most likely will. Just to get more people to buy DX10. I've no interest in Vista, it's not my type of PC. Hell, I'm not even happy with XP, I'd much rather have a 98. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6164940/index.html
read this,it may change your decissions of buying or not.
games that run on directx9 will run much faster on windows xp then it will with vista.
so dont expect anything new with games like company of heroes and oblivion,cause it may give a small graphic boost,but will run in slow-motion. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:16 am Post subject:
The DX10 will soon be availible to download... Halo can be hacked to pieces and made to work on XP, Down with Masessoft! _________________ DUNK! QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:40 am Post subject:
Actually, DX10 is massively integrated into Vista and relies on the Vista kernel to work (as is my understanding). It's unlikely that we'll ever see it outside Vista and Vista+1. _________________
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:02 am Post subject:
Ha(Double post) - I just read what if tell(by voice) to Vista computer to erase all documents - it will do that! Think of someone having created a site with free music - in each one of the songs ends with a phrase = delete windows directory _________________ DUNK! QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:47 am Post subject:
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clazzy, vista does have nice features, and it completely rocks. i dont know why ppl are bitching about it so much, especially about it stealing ideas from other OS's, because now the best of multiple worlds is joined.
For example? Tell me about something Vista does which is beneficial and can't already be done in XP (with a third party program).
it runs halo 2, hellgate london, supreme commander, etc, etc. _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
Supreme Commander will work on XP and DX9.0c. You won't get the supposed DX10 extra effects etc, but I'd gladly sacrifice that playing it on XP.
Not sure of the other games, but from what I've heard, very few games for new release atm aren't DX10 only. _________________ If there is a problem on the forums, PM me. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:40 am Post subject:
I might test it out, after all, you are allowed to test vista for 30days without a lisence M might cahge to Linuxs, I think XP takes a to big pice of ram and I don't like the fakt of suporting MS world domination
NOTE: Vista is not an "upgrade" of XP, it has been build from scratch, and it is supose to use as much RAM as possible ( ????????? ) to keep itself as smooth as possible. _________________ This is a signature QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:29 am Post subject:
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Supreme Commander will work on XP and DX9.0c. You won't get the supposed DX10 extra effects etc, but I'd gladly sacrifice that playing it on XP.
Not sure of the other games, but from what I've heard, very few games for new release atm aren't DX10 only.
as a graphicswhore i cant allow extra effects to be lost, or why else would i spend over 600 bucks on a gfx-card? _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:31 am Post subject:
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it runs halo 2, hellgate london, supreme commander, etc, etc.
The latter two will run on XP too, what's your point? Halo 2 isn't worth getting anyway, I speak as an Xbox owner in that regard. Excluding Halo 2, there are NO games so far that require DX10. _________________
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject:
Vista recommends a minimum 512MB of RAM, which will be as unusable as XP's 128MB minimum. 256MB was barely usable on XP as well, so 1.5GB-2GB should be capable. It will still use a great deal of RAM, though. _________________
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Supreme Commander will work on XP and DX9.0c. You won't get the supposed DX10 extra effects etc, but I'd gladly sacrifice that playing it on XP.
Not sure of the other games, but from what I've heard, very few games for new release atm aren't DX10 only.
as a graphicswhore i cant allow extra effects to be lost, or why else would i spend over 600 bucks on a gfx-card?
'Because you're a prat' comes to mind.
I'm not going to buy it and if it somehow falls into my lap I'd have it on a dual boot and stick with XP for everything not needing Vista - Vista would get no use as I don't want Halo 2 and everything else runs on XP just fine. QUICK_EDIT
Supreme Commander will work on XP and DX9.0c. You won't get the supposed DX10 extra effects etc, but I'd gladly sacrifice that playing it on XP.
Not sure of the other games, but from what I've heard, very few games for new release atm aren't DX10 only.
as a graphicswhore i cant allow extra effects to be lost, or why else would i spend over 600 bucks on a gfx-card?
Because you have more money than sense? or life?
I wouldn't spend 600 bucks on a single graphic card, no matter how good. I love my games, but I'm sorry.. money can be spent better.
Heck, I am planning on building up a new machine, and my current component total isn't that. And its not a low-end set of stuff either. _________________ If there is a problem on the forums, PM me. QUICK_EDIT
there is really no need to get vista just for the DX10 games,it isnt worth it,not only that,you will need to get the new DX10 graphics card if you want to run em,whitch really isnt worth it.....
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:05 am Post subject:
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If only I had money to burn like that. Just wait until you become a student or at least have to fend for yourself.
my student life will be centred around 3d modelling and animating, so....
its an investment. (yeah right ) _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject:
I still use Windows 98 (yes, you heard that right), and there is no way that I am upgrading to Vista. If I ever get XP, it will be completely seperate from my Windows 98. Many of the games I own must be run in native DOS in order to work at all, and that is not possible with XP. I do plan on at least putting XP on my computer at some time in the future (BioShock will not run on Windows 98 afaik), but it will never replace 98 as my primary OS. _________________ This mod is dead!
I am. Vista is really freaking awesome.
It is way better than XP in every way. Of course almost everything it does can be done in XP with 3rd party programs, but honestly, it does things better than most 3rd party programs too.
Vista is not just XP with a new skin, it has a lot of really cool features, most of them surrounding security.
It is way, way more.
I have used Macs, several Linux distros, Windows XP, and Windows Vista, and I can honestly say that of all of them, Vista was the most user-friendly (For beginners and for people who like to screw around), and also simply the best OS overall.
It doesn't hurt that it looks and acts a hell of a lot cooler than any of the others. And yes, Clazzy, I am including Linux with Beryl in that (Actually that's what I'm using right now because XP is ztyping me up the ass); I hate that damn cube, because it doesn't hide the tabs that aren't on the same face of the cube as your view. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
I am in the same boat as geekspeek but I am running Windows ME instead (yes you heard it right WinME!) .
Only this year I installed Windows XP Pro on "one" of my five harddrives becaus I needed it to test Supreme Commander and GTA San Andreas Multiplayer over internet and play trough Quake 4 singleplayer and do some hardware testing that dont work on Win98/ME.
It was not even a legal version Windows XP Pro but it worked flawlessly except that I did not like the response time of WinXP compared to Win9x series. I also stayed away from Service Pack 2 becaus I just dont like it.
Ill prolly be forced to upgrade to Windows XP after April 07 becaus that is when I am going to upgrade my computer to hardware that dont have Win98/ME drivers and Win98/ME dont support multi processing
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:33 pm Post subject:
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Of course almost everything it does can be done in XP with 3rd party programs, but honestly, it does things better than most 3rd party programs too.
I'll never use the new search feature, I'm experimenting with Beagle on Linux but regardless I organise everything myself. Haven't had an antivirus program installed for the past few months, don't want an on-access spyware scanner like Windows Defender since I prefer periodic scans. Windows XP and any third-party firewall software along with basic intelligence is security enough for me, I don't need several dozen messages asking "are you sure you want to run this" or "do you want to delete this file" constantly.
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Vista is not just XP with a new skin, it has a lot of really cool features, most of them surrounding security.
Please tell me exactly why I should shell out £200 on a new operating system when it doesn't really add anything genuinely useful or anything that wasn't possible already with third-party software. Oh, and constant warning messages doesn't count as security because everybody will just get fed up and stop reading them eventually, security experts included.
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I hate that damn cube, because it doesn't hide the tabs that aren't on the same face of the cube as your view.
Quite a miniscule reason to hate it. I never actually use the cube feature but Beryl has many useability bonuses too like making windows transparent, unresponsive windows going dark, window previews, scaling windows and it's also got accessibility options like inverting colours and zooming.
And the Vista look is still ugly, the borders are massive and clunky and it's a massive drain on the GPU unlike Beryl and whatever OSX's compositor is called. _________________
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Quite a miniscule reason to hate it. I never actually use the cube feature but Beryl has many useability bonuses too like making windows transparent, unresponsive windows going dark, window previews, scaling windows and it's also got accessibility options like inverting colours and zooming.
That's the reason I hate the cube, not all of Beryl. Besides, Vista has all of those as well.
And I would like to point out that semitransparent windows is quite possible the worst idea ever. It serves no purpose but to make it damned hard to see anything in the windows!
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And the Vista look is still ugly, the borders are massive and clunky and it's a massive drain on the GPU unlike Beryl and whatever OSX's compositor is called.
I ran Vista without a functioning GPU for months and it worked fantastically. Beryl wouldn't work at all, and in fact completely destroyed my Ubuntu installation without a functioning GPU. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:16 am Post subject:
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And I would like to point out that semitransparent windows is quite possible the worst idea ever. It serves no purpose but to make it damned hard to see anything in the windows!
You misunderstand me, if you're typing a document and don't want to lose focus as you refer to where you're reading from, you can make the window transparent. I find that a useful function, personally.
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I ran Vista without a functioning GPU for months and it worked fantastically. Beryl wouldn't work at all, and in fact completely destroyed my Ubuntu installation without a functioning GPU.
So, all the Aero effects worked with (I'm assuming) an integrated graphics card? I doubt that very much and even if it did work I doubt you'd be able to run any 3D apps at the same time. _________________
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