first complete voxel : nod hellmouth [WIP]

bonzy_buddy · Shrapnel Sniper **Joined**: 31 Oct 2006

here is my first voxel, the nod hellmouth, wich is a multiple missile launcher.
My first problem was that I made it too small and thus I was obliged to double it size and now it's a bit too big a cubic.
then I've got some troubles (check the pic) that I can't fix. I guess it comes from the hva but as I'm very new to voxel tools and don't really know what to do. (I upload my file just in case someone has the time to look at it).
Tell me how I can improve, I've just begin to voxel and really enjoy it, it's just like lego. Razz

(I know it's not yet very nod like and it has no remap but I didn't worked on the colours)

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gufu · Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:03 am Post subject:

Too cartooney, not for NOD...

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bonzy_buddy · Shrapnel Sniper **Joined**: 31 Oct 2006

I know. Actually I'm much more interested in solving my problem as this voxel is mostly a test

-tr8er8- · Rocket Cyborg **Joined**: 16 Sep 2006 **Location**: USA

It doesn't fit the TS theme. You should make it like better colors and stuff.

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bonzy_buddy · Shrapnel Sniper **Joined**: 31 Oct 2006

erm... it looks like you just look at the pictures and didn't read the text, don't you ?

I rewrite it there shorter :
"can anyone tell me something I don't know ; for instance : what's happening on the small pic ?"

Zodiac · Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:51 am Post subject:

That's hte HVA. You need to edit it.

Nice voxel , but clearly not for TS.

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Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

oh man. can't people explain what's wrong with full sentences?! what are you, lazy or dumb?

Anyway, the problem is in the HVA file. In case you don't know what it is, it's a file that determines how the voxel is shown up ingame, (in which angle, etc.) and it can be created using HVA editor. The problem is that you have set the voxel HVA settings wrong. To correct the settings, simply move the voxel among the three axis', until it's in the middle. Remember to set it only a bit above the z- and x-axis.

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bonzy_buddy · Shrapnel Sniper **Joined**: 31 Oct 2006

thank you for the constructive answer.
I knew it has something to do with the hva but I'm still a bit confused with the editor.
Could you explain to me the difference between voxel offset and hva position .
Above all I don't understand why the selection frame is so small while in the hva settings the "voxels boounds" are right. it's a big problem, not only for the selection frame because ingame the voxel is considered to be smaller and thus overlap with everything around him.

Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

If you are talking about the selection box, there is no other way to make it bigger than editing the "select.shp" you can find inside TIBSUN.mix

About the voxel bounds, they are just the codes that tell how the unit is located in the HVA. Sometimes they may differ from the location of the unit in the program display itself, so you'd better check they are all close to zero, except the "Y" (which tells the height of the unit).

The voxel position tells how the voxel itself will be ingame. Simple. But the HVA position tells in which position the voxel frames are. Note: this applies only for multi-frame voxels, like walking mechs. You don't need to use this if you make, for example, a basic tank.

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bonzy_buddy · Shrapnel Sniper **Joined**: 31 Oct 2006

Then I've just to fix the voxel offset. I guess it'll fix the turret rotation axis problem (I didn't had it on my first trial but I guess it was because I just rotated it and not move it).
What am I supposed to do for the overlapping problem (see red circle) ?

(when I mentionned the voxel bounds, I was speaking of the "size in game" stuff.)

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Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

In the HVA editor, select the turret from the selection box on the left, and go to "voxel bounds" in the top, (was it in tools?) and fix the x or z axis values into 0. If the turret appears to be behind or in the front of the voxel, open art.ini and use the turretoffset=** (**=number) to fix it.

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bonzy_buddy · Shrapnel Sniper **Joined**: 31 Oct 2006

Thanks for the advices. I eventually ended to fix the offset right.
Is that me orsometime HVA editor act a bit randomly ?
there is still the overlapping problem but I don't know how to solve it.

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