Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject:
EA Games
Subject description: Breaking the Copyright law?
just look at this pic
(Utvecklare = Developer)
It says EA Games, when i look at Planet CNC it's Developed by WestWood (Wich i know it is) and Published by Virgin Interactive Entertainment, Wich means "NO" EA Games involved, and you may think: But this is for PlayStation, and if you look on WikiPedia it Still says Westwood for both PC and PS, and No EA invloved, and to be sure, i lookad at the RA: Retaliation for PS at Gamespot, And still, No EA Games.
Them need write EA. They buy everything with the name C&C and them are the only 1 some can use it. Westwood are out. _________________ Can you hide from me ? QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject:
Well EA bought CNC's rights, which means, any CNC stuff that once belonged to Westwood is now under the ownership of EA. _________________ The Fall of Hammerfest - Epic Tiberian chain story
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why would you want to play an RTS on a PS2 in the first place? And RA1 of all of them?
Every computer that exists today can run that game... talk about waste of money. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject:
Because RA:Retaliation has the cutscenes for the Aftermath and Counterstrike missions? _________________ PPM's Reichstrollfuherer, 236th Trollenparties brigade. QUICK_EDIT
But still WestWood invented Red Alert, and the name RedAlert, wheter EA did buy it or not,it should atleast say WestWood as developer. _________________ R.I.P Xeno.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject:
but if they do take all rights, why not remove the "weswood" logo? doh Oh, and RA1 was rated 18+ whene it first came out _________________ This is a signature QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject:
Because Westwood made the game. Do you remove George Orwell's name from 1984 when the copyright no longer applies and it enters the public domain? _________________
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:13 am Post subject:
Faulty reasoning, Clazzy... the people in the team will still all be credited correctly. It's only a company name that disappears. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
why would you want to play an RTS on a PS2 in the first place? And RA1 of all of them?
Every computer that exists today can run that game... talk about waste of money.
I have RA1, but its on the PS1, not PS2, AND i got it when i didnt have a PC. Btw, I also have retaliation and its better then RA1 + expansions, due to the campaigns having mission breifings, a storyline etc. So to me it was worth the $$ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject:
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Faulty reasoning, Clazzy... the people in the team will still all be credited correctly. It's only a company name that disappears.
But those people worked as part of the company. The company is the entity that made the game, just like how George Orwell is the entity that wrote 1984. _________________
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Doesn't matter, the original developer and publisher are supposed do be listed there. So technically and (I think and I'll look it up) unlawfully wrong. _________________ "Don't beg for things; Do it yourself or you'll never get anything." QUICK_EDIT
Doesn't matter, the original developer and publisher are supposed do be listed there. So technically and (I think and I'll look it up) unlawfully wrong.
Sorry, but who cares? Westwood is EA so technically (and i dont need to look this up) the original developer is listed there. When EA bought westwood, they bought the name and the rights to the name. They therefore have the right to use their own name instead of westwoods. If they were using their name when they didnt actually own the game, then they would be breaking the law.
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EA have the rights to publish it now, to my knowledge Virgin Interactive doesn't actually exist any more.
The American operations of Virgin interactive were bought by EA when they bought Westwood so infact EA are the developer and the publisher now. QUICK_EDIT
O.otratos,i hav'nt seen your posts for a while...
i dunno,im not so sure about anything based here.westwwod probably signed a contract for EA to own and endorse ALL westwood merchandise.just like when dell bought out alienware,all there old models where converted to dell(or so i heard ) _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Doesn't matter, the original developer and publisher are supposed do be listed there. So technically and (I think and I'll look it up) unlawfully wrong.
Agreed, even though EA Bought WW and have the rights to sell the game for its own earnings, it was still WW who created the game in the first place wheter it exists today or not. Therefore it should be listed under Developer even if its EA who sells the game, because they are now the "Publisher", but not "Developer" wich EA has written their name on. So theoretically, theyre claiming the games as they "Created" it when WW did. _________________ R.I.P Xeno.
When EA bought westwood, they bought the name and the rights to the name. They therefore have the right to use their own name instead of westwoods. If they were using their name when they didnt actually own the game, then they would be breaking the law.
If i own a company named Company A, and i buy Company B, im going to start putting my name (Company A) on all Company B's products from that point on for the following resaons:
1) i now own company B and have the right to put whatever name on the product i choose as long as i own that name, hell i could go out and register the name 'Company C' as mine and stick it on the product.
2) Its amazingly stupid to put the name of a non-existent company on a product you are still producing unless you intend to continue trading under that brand. EA are not trading under the Westwood name anymore so why would they put it anywhere on their products?
3) Even if EA were still using the Westwood brand to trade, as the parent company EA could still put EA on the box. Who's going to tell them off? Westwood? I doubt it as they OWN westwood. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject:
If you look at the files on those C&C Gold discs, you'll notice EA didn't touch any of them. They just slapped the EA logo on the discs, nothing else. _________________
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject:
Sirmodsalot, be real. You know EA is evil and Westwood has been raped by EA. _________________ PPM's Reichstrollfuherer, 236th Trollenparties brigade. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:37 pm Post subject:
westwood is now called EA and so since ea owns westwood its not like an imaginary company is going to sue somone who owns them. it snot breaking copy right law if you own the buisness. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject:
Carnotaurus wrote:
Sirmodsalot, be real. You know EA is evil and Westwood has been raped by EA.
Did YOU get the discs Team Black and I speak of? EVERY file and folder on BOTH discs shows to have been "last modified" in either 1995, 1996, or 1997. If EA had changed any of them, the files/folders would have far more recent modification dates.
Oh, and I do know EA is evil. But they weren't so evil as to give us C&C 3.
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westwood is now called EA and so since ea owns westwood
... wha?? First you say that WW is now called EA (which you got completely wrong), then you say that EA owns WW (which you got completely right). You lost me. _________________
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westwood is now called EA and so since ea owns westwood
... wha?? First you say that WW is now called EA (which you got completely wrong), then you say that EA owns WW (which you got completely right). You lost me.
He's basicaly saying that EA owns ea... _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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EA Games
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Oh, and RA1 was rated 18+ whene it first came out 
