Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:57 am Post subject:
How to kill a horde of zombies
Subject description: A deductive thesis
When Zombies Attack!/By Dokart and Dubbi
Dokart says (10:37 PM):
as you know, I've had a dagger already
Dokart says (10:37 PM):
today my dad gave me a half meter long sword
' says (10:37 PM):
i slightly recall...but not exactly
Dokart says (10:37 PM):
decided maybe I'd start collecting them, since I got 2 already
' says (10:37 PM):
what are you planning, the first pre-emptive pogrom?
Dokart says (10:41 PM):
you never know when you'll have to defend yourself from zombies
' says (10:41 PM):
clearly uneducated, zombies are killed with shotguns
Dokart says (10:42 PM):
well, I can't really obtain one
Dokart says (10:42 PM):
besides, cold steels cuts through their rotten body as well as any other weapon
' says (10:43 PM):
not that simple
Dokart says (10:43 PM):
besides, shotguns take a while to reload, and have a finite ammunation
' says (10:43 PM):
long range
Dokart says (10:43 PM):
when there are 20 of them around you, a shotgun won't help much
' says (10:43 PM):
zombies are only dangerous when theyre near, unlike other monsters
' says (10:44 PM):
only hits to their head will trully kill them
' says (10:44 PM):
this way you will have to come close to their necks and faces, with your sword
' says (10:45 PM):
a solution to this problem is the ff8 gunblade
Dokart says (10:45 PM):
yes but think about it this way, two guys stand, one holds a shotgun, the other doesn't
zombies swarming around them, the guy with the shotgun manages to kill 10 at most, with his shotgun, before the reach him and start clawing at him from everyside.
Dokart says (10:45 PM):
the guy with the sword, however, waits for teh zombies to coem close, and than starts cuting them in half
Dokart says (10:45 PM):
both men will die, no doubt
Dokart says (10:45 PM):
though
Dokart says (10:45 PM):
=(
Dokart says (10:46 PM):
a gunblade, is a good solution
says (10:46 PM):
and they wouldn't work together? instead of trying to prove to eachother which one has the better weapon? one would suddenly wait for the other to end his session?
Dokart says (10:46 PM):
they would
Dokart says (10:46 PM):
however, both will die at the end
Dokart says (10:46 PM):
unless
Dokart says (10:46 PM):
they got a machinegun
Dokart says (10:47 PM):
or a few granedes
' says (10:47 PM):
i don't see why they would die in the end
Dokart says (10:47 PM):
they are jsut two, and there is an end to their strenght
Dokart says (10:47 PM):
zombies however, don't get tired, and they are endless
Dokart says (10:47 PM):
remember, I'm living across teh street from a graveyard
' says (10:47 PM):
the zombies have to be finite, or else it's not a fair scenario
Dokart says (10:47 PM):
two actually
Dokart says (10:47 PM):
wait 3
Dokart says (10:48 PM):
2 jewish, and one christian, that's alot fo zombies
' says (10:48 PM):
atleast you know which ones not to expect on friday sundown
Dokart says (10:49 PM):
aye, might as well invite them over for shabbas
' says (10:49 PM):
zombies are not necessarily endless, they start of with a set amount, and can only replicate by biting a living non-zombie, and those only turn into zombies the next night
' says (10:50 PM):
one guy can maintain the original amount of zombies by cutting off the head of every human the zombies bite, and the other guy can shoot the original zombies
' says (10:51 PM):
that way they're helping themselves by helping eachother
' says (10:52 PM):
and eventually, there is such a small amount of zombies left, that both can just focus on killing them
' says (10:52 PM):
it's the basic nash equilibrium
Dokart says (10:52 PM):
unless one of them doesn't die in the process
' says (10:53 PM):
that's the whole point, the chances of that happening lower, by the one guy just doing his assigned task
' says (10:54 PM):
as more potential zombies are cut down, the shooter has to focus on less regular zombies, and as there are less regular zombies, blade fellow needs to get to less heads of potential zombies
' says (10:54 PM):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nash_equilibrium
Dokart says (10:56 PM):
however, we have to assume that somewhere in bathurst and russia there are two guys brave enough to face zombies, one with a sword, the other with a shotgun. And that they would meet, before they die
' says (10:57 PM):
sure, Ivan and Ruslan on their way to a pogram are interrupted by zombies. and as theyre on their way to a pogrom , theyre already armed
Dokart says (10:58 PM):
lol
Dokart says (10:58 PM):
good point
' says (10:58 PM):
the end: less zombies, more jews
Dokart says (10:58 PM):
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Gah, they're both wrong. HEV suit + Crowbar is allll you need.
Ironically.. crowbar is probably the BEST tool to have with you in a zombie panic. It's light enough to be carried easily (let it dangle from a belt loop works well), heavy enough to be used as a melee weapon, and quite useful for prying stuff open + other tool-related uses. _________________ "Banned" RP here QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:28 am Post subject:
Dont be a retard. You have to get close to the ztyping zombies to use it. You're in biting range to use that crowbar. Melee weapons are strictly last resort. Dont say Katana, either. I am sure some weeaboo will say it and clench his Made In China replica Katana. Well, Sorry, Samurai Jack, those are factory made, and wont stand up against a Zombie at all. It'll lodge in the bone, the cheap glue will break from the blade, and the handle will be in your hand while a Zombie gnaws your ztyping head off. I'll take my Mosin Nagant, thank you.
Single shot, long distance weapons are the best. Automatics waste bullets, so dont get an AK and switch it to auto and go 'I AM LEET!!!1'. When you're clips are all emptied into the Zed's chest, and his ass is shuffling closer, Boo ztyping hoo. I hope you get killed right after the want to be Samurai. also, Zombie Survival Guide? It is fiction. Dont ztyping be a retard. _________________ PPM's Reichstrollfuherer, 236th Trollenparties brigade. QUICK_EDIT
I specified "TOOL", dumbass. Not weapon. TOOL. there's a difference. I only added the "heavy enough to be a melee weapon" bit as more proof it's versatility. Besides, if you're accurate + strong enough to one-hand it, you can out-range a zed's biting range. Slashing, no.
Weapon-wise, however, yes, single-shot at range is better. HOWEVER.. if it's close range, I'll take a SPAS15, thank you very much. Mag-fed shotgun. Or possibly a Glock 9mm or something accurate with common, easily-acquired ammo. _________________ "Banned" RP here QUICK_EDIT
I always though zombies would leave you alone as long as you fed them babies. _________________ 0h noez!11!!! one 11!! U just p00rd n00bs@uc3 a11 0v3r my l33t sk1llz!!!!!!11one!!111!!!one111!!!!!!!
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All you have to do is board up almost any residential/commercial and make sure you have a vehicle. Weapons are a bonus if you need it. You just have to HIDE, why confront and risk you're life when you can just wait it out in a mall or the sort. Even if all the dead arose at once, there would be enough organization in most countries that people like S.W.A.T. and the army could take care of it. Its the third-world countries that might be the problem. If they cant contain the problem all you have to do is quarantine the country/countries affected with a leave and be shot policy, send in task forces and if all else fails, nuke the "problem areas". QUICK_EDIT
Lol...watch out for Mall Zombies. probably best bet to leave for the Rural zones. less people less zombies. but then you gotta watch out for Giant Killer Nuke Bunnies.
@ Night of the Lepus. _________________ Delirium.. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:31 am Post subject:
Well they have to eat, so keep away from them until they're gone. Move to a house in the country and wait it out. If they get anywhere, a good cricket bat will sort them out. _________________
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Well they have to eat, so keep away from them until they're gone. Move to a house in the country and wait it out. If they get anywhere, a good cricket bat will sort them out.
Exactly. HOWEVER.. you don't know how many other people will be stupid enough to stay, fight, and provide a few zombies a feast, so that's a problem. _________________ "Banned" RP here QUICK_EDIT
Or a baseball bat. Not that I have a problem with cricket, it's just that a cricket bat is much heavier than an aluminum baseball bat. A fire poker might also do a good job on them. Or, if all else fails, you could go Pete Townshend on them with an electric guitar (acoustic would probably not do very much at all).
Another approach that I don't think anyone has covered is to pelt them with rocks/beer bottles/other fairly heavy projectiles from a few metres away. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
There's so many good weapons / tools you could use...zombies seem pretty weak considering. I'd go with my tri-sword combo...but seeing as MOST people don't have a tone of katanas lying around...dual aluminum baseball bats are the second best choice. Just remember to aim at the head...and if that doesn't work...either run or you're zombie feed...
The best place to wait it out though would be Home Depot...blunt weapons and power tools galore! _________________ "Don't beg for things; Do it yourself or you'll never get anything." QUICK_EDIT
Home Depot is good...but i think any sports store is better because there is aluminum bats and other sports gear like a catchers mask and don't forget the pocket knives some stores sell and hatchets.But a second Choice is Walmart they got almost everything and more if you go to a super Walmart. But thats just me. QUICK_EDIT
There's so many good weapons / tools you could use...zombies seem pretty weak considering. I'd go with my tri-sword combo...but seeing as MOST people don't have a tone of katanas lying around...dual aluminum baseball bats are the second best choice. Just remember to aim at the head...and if that doesn't work...either run or you're zombie feed...
The best place to wait it out though would be Home Depot...blunt weapons and power tools galore!
Gah! Why does everyone ignore teh crowbar!? Crowbars might be a bit heavier, but they're DAMNED well gonna do damage, even if you use the blunt end. Sure, a baseball bat is cool + all, but.. a crowbar is cool AND functional. xD Doubles as a tool AND a deadly weapon. _________________ "Banned" RP here QUICK_EDIT
There's so many good weapons / tools you could use...zombies seem pretty weak considering. I'd go with my tri-sword combo...but seeing as MOST people don't have a tone of katanas lying around...dual aluminum baseball bats are the second best choice. Just remember to aim at the head...and if that doesn't work...either run or you're zombie feed...
The best place to wait it out though would be Home Depot...blunt weapons and power tools galore!
Gah! Why does everyone ignore teh crowbar!? Crowbars might be a bit heavier, but they're DAMNED well gonna do damage, even if you use the blunt end. Sure, a baseball bat is cool + all, but.. a crowbar is cool AND functional. xD Doubles as a tool AND a deadly weapon.
Yes Crowbars are good and probably fun to use but i dont have one lying around my house and i haven't seen one in a store but there might be one in the employees only section of stores. QUICK_EDIT
Mmm.. lawn mower.. XD
Gah! Why does everyone ignore teh crowbar!? Crowbars might be a bit heavier, but they're DAMNED well gonna do damage, even if you use the blunt end. Sure, a baseball bat is cool + all, but.. a crowbar is cool AND functional. xD Doubles as a tool AND a deadly weapon.
I wasn't ignoring the crowbar...Home Depot's got em' and they're a nice heavy weapon; but if you're gonna take something heavy, you might as well take the chainsaw and nailgun's (dual nailguns = dual uzi's )
Just so much more potential than a simple crowbar is all... _________________ "Don't beg for things; Do it yourself or you'll never get anything." Last edited by 4StarGeneral on Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:24 am; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
Yes, but both require AMMO. and in zombie panics, ammo, of pretty much ANY variety becomes quite... impossible to find. _________________ "Banned" RP here QUICK_EDIT
Hmm...you've got me there. That's a definite downfall that could get you killed...and you'd need a pretty long extension cord for the chainsaw. So I guess Crowbars and Bats are the best choice; PERIOD!
EDIT: There's a couple electric ones, but ya your right.
Oh... by the way...welcome to the loop Crimson. _________________ "Don't beg for things; Do it yourself or you'll never get anything." Last edited by 4StarGeneral on Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:03 pm; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:00 am Post subject:
Kyler, then you get close to the zombie...in biting range...which really is risky. _________________ PPM's Reichstrollfuherer, 236th Trollenparties brigade. QUICK_EDIT
Kyler, then you get close to the zombie...in biting range...which really is risky.
*sigh*
This is for LAST-RESORT only, Desu. When yew has no moar AK ammo left, and your chainsaw is dead.
Of course it's for close range, unless you have a few dozen knives and can throw them with extreme accuracy. _________________ "Banned" RP here QUICK_EDIT
Lol.
Zombies can just slash you with their long arms and they can infect just like that.It isnt like games like doom or dead rising where the simply lunge at you like some slow fat ass...try looking zombies from 28 days later.Those freaky bastards run as fast as toney hawk on wheels.
(oh and yes i may be going at of my way with this zomby thing but ehhhh)
Its fun to see zomby bashing in dead rsiing,lets go with flinging bnechs and carts or putting clown masks on the zomby to make him blind _________________ QUICK_EDIT
I you do happen to have a few katanas lying around at your house go back quick and don't get caught going back cause as soon a one sees you there'll be a swarm of zombies coming for you. But some people don't have all these weapons lying around so i would just say take any blunt tools or anything that wont break when you hit a zombie over the head. Also if you have a few butcher knives at home and other knives (not butter knives) take them and if you have a food store nearby go and block off all entrances.
And if your in the army or was in the army or the police force then its allot easier cause then you'd probably have a gun or two. QUICK_EDIT
Even better, keep makin' all sorts of anti-zombie weapons out of household items. Either that or find Richard Dean Anderson so HE can go MacGyver on their zombie butts. _________________ "Don't beg for things; Do it yourself or you'll never get anything." QUICK_EDIT
Tsk tsk tsk....
Flamethrower, nailgun, ak, uzi.
Remember, they're zombies, they don't feel pain.
Shooting a bullet in him will no kill, or slow the zombie down. Sure you can empty and entire magazine into his head, but than you'll waste your ammo.
Baseball bats are good, but when you have dozens of zombies descending on you, it's a certain death. Same goes for blades.
You need some with an efficient ranged weapon, something like a shotgun. However, the shotgun is hard/slow to reload, so you'll need someone with a baseball bat/blade to protect the shooter while he reloads. QUICK_EDIT
Take to the sea and only go ashore for food and supplies, if your lucky you will stumble apon a Trident submarine xD..and you will know what to do..It's all so clear now :p QUICK_EDIT
OH yeah sure,grab gear meant to shoot and trap racoons and we'll be saved.We all will.
Seriously,what are you gonig to do?Tranq the zombie to sleep?
*sigh*
Raccoon City Police Department, STARS unit, from Resident Evil.
Btw, that doesn't look like a real Beretta.
AHHH DERR DERRR DERRR DERRR...
You think i dont know that?hence the ....itsa cold a joke no?
Not like racoon hunters have S.T.A.R.S logo on em anyways.God i feel like people want to be smart asses
You can always just take based on warcraft 3,all You need is a hold old blessed hammer and holy book of ligh and a big clump of huge ass armour and your done.Or even take the big old daemon hammers from WHK:40K
lol damn Daz,that shotgun is way outdated.I bet those rounds would blow up in your face when you pull the trigger then spreading... QUICK_EDIT
-Kitchen Silverware(Forks, Knives, and maybe spoons)
-Piping in walls
-Heavy objects(Televisions, Chairs, Shelves)
-Gasoline(Porbibly not in an apartment)
-Lawn Mower(Customize it a bit and you have the Decap-O-Matic)
-Vehicle(Motorcyle, truck, car, tank?)
-Guns(Maybe)(Mainly rifles, and pistols, maybe autos)
-Tools(Chainsaw, tire iron, power tools, and umm.... the crowbar)
-Toys(baseball bats, RC cars)
-Broken glass
-Food and water(Duh) QUICK_EDIT
To heck with the grenade. When you've got a pile of zombies that need dispatchin'...throw a propane tank (grill tank or whatever) into the middle of em', and say a cool line or too...then shoot the propane tank. Just watch for flying zombie action!
Just rememer to stay wayyyyy back. _________________ "Don't beg for things; Do it yourself or you'll never get anything." Last edited by 4StarGeneral on Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:04 pm; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
the best thing to do, when the zombie outbreak finally comes, is to drive down to the closest walmart super center, they have lots of food drinks and weapons, not to mention stuff to keep you sane, and stuff to make contact to the outside world. its the perfect fort, just need to block the exits with some bulk items, which should be easy since there is proly a few fork lifts lying around somewhere. _________________ Global Genocide Website QUICK_EDIT
OH yeah sure,grab gear meant to shoot and trap racoons and we'll be saved.We all will.
Seriously,what are you gonig to do?Tranq the zombie to sleep?
*sigh*
Raccoon City Police Department, STARS unit, from Resident Evil.
Btw, that doesn't look like a real Beretta.
AHHH DERR DERRR DERRR DERRR...
You think i dont know that?hence the ....itsa cold a joke no?
Not like racoon hunters have S.T.A.R.S logo on em anyways.God i feel like people want to be smart asses
.. Yes, actually, I do.
And for the love of GOD, stop RAPING my language!
The Colonel wrote:
-Tools(Chainsaw, tire iron, power tools, and umm.... the crowbar)
Damn right.
The Protagonist wrote:
the best thing to do, when the zombie outbreak finally comes, is to drive down to the closest walmart super center, they have lots of food drinks and weapons, not to mention stuff to keep you sane, and stuff to make contact to the outside world. its the perfect fort, just need to block the exits with some bulk items, which should be easy since there is proly a few fork lifts lying around somewhere.
Yeah. Or couches, TVs might work, tables, ect. _________________ "Banned" RP here QUICK_EDIT
To heck with the grenade. When you've got a pile of zombies that need dispatchin'...throw a gas tank (grill tank or whatever) into the middle of em', and say a cool line or too...then shoot the gas tank. Just watch for flying zombie action!
the best thing to do, when the zombie outbreak finally comes, is to drive down to the closest walmart super center, they have lots of food drinks and weapons, not to mention stuff to keep you sane, and stuff to make contact to the outside world. its the perfect fort, just need to block the exits with some bulk items, which should be easy since there is proly a few fork lifts lying around somewhere.
O you can go to local Costco.It has loads more stuff for every day needs.
And always have an escpae route outa the store incase flying things fling at you.
Look for survivors to defend on roof top as well. QUICK_EDIT
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