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For those waiting TFD 1.03... VK has brought it before EA!
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Banshee
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:55 am    Post subject:  For those waiting TFD 1.03... VK has brought it before EA!
Subject description: C&C Gold fully working on XP with LAN and no map border crash!
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"Next summer, we'll release a The First Decade 1.03"... You might have seen words similar to these from the EA guys, isn't? When I visited the EALA studio, in the first C&C3 Community Summit, they had big banners from TFD. They probably still have it, but the summer above wasn't very well defined... afterall, they can still release this patch in 2050.

Our friend VK has released his patch before our EA friends. You can still download C&C 95 for free here. Then, apply the new C&C Gold V1.05 Patch on it.

And what does it bring? Here's the words straight from the installer:



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"Command & Conquer 1.05 Update

This update can be applied ONLY to C&C95 V1.04.
(another popular names are: Command & Conquer GOLD, Tiberium Dawn,
Command & Conquer for Windows)
Supported both: TFD version and original version.
Non-original files not supported at all.

1.05 update info:
*Command & Conquer now Windows XP compatible!
*You no longer need to set "Windows 95 compatible mode"
*Included updated THIPX32.DLL file, which fix LAN games support.
*Map border crash no longer happen.

The source of updated THIPX32.DLL file:
http://www.understorm.net/thipx/thipx32.dll

Web-site:
http://www.vk.cncguild.net

-VK"

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Isn't it awesome? Grab it now! Happy 12th anniversary, Command & Conquer!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Dude! That is sweet!!!! Razz

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hehe, well done VK... nice job.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Now fix TS RA 2 and RA 1.. #Tongue

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Do not demand things from him. And TS and YR already received a lot of features from him.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Funny news. Should make EA ashamed a bit #Tongue

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I mean mission are ztype up when you play them.
Building are active when them should in some mission some do the mission nery impossible.

Put thats can just be my computer to...

Somebody got mission ztype up in TS?

Anyways is was not a DEMAND. Just some info. If he think he should patch the whole TFD.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Anderwin wrote:
I mean mission are ztype up when you play them.
Building are active when them should in some mission some do the mission nery impossible.

Put thats can just be my computer to...

Somebody got mission ztype up in TS?

Anyways is was not a DEMAND. Just some info. If he think he should patch the whole TFD.


Ugh, I can't understand a word your saying dude(Then again, could be this pounding headache...), please, go get a Spell-check enabled program and check your damn spelling, as well as try and make your sentences a little more...organized.

Anyway, good to see a patch out for this sexy game. :3

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Ugh, I can't understand a word your saying dude(Then again, could be this pounding headache...), please, go get a Spell-check enabled program and check your damn spelling, as well as try and make your sentences a little more...organized.

Anderwin has dyslexia, can't blame him for that.

Anyway... VK did it before EA? Confused Good work! Razz

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Crashking wrote:
Anderwin has dyslexia, can't blame him for that.


He can at least try and run it through Microsoft Word or something... -_-
Might make x10 more sense.

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Anderwin
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I rewrite it again.

I played Tiberian sun and I come far on GDI missions.
But some mission are just bugged. Buildings some are deactivated on original TS are now activated. And some triggers mission(?). Even the text what you gonna do on mission on the left side are gone. The white.
Example: Destroy all Nods forces. Just come 1 time and no more. On some mission is come 50 more times.
Some missions are even done easier!.

Maybe is just my computer turn crazy or more got this problems?.

Anyways Banshee I did not say I DEMAND he to do it.
I mean is more TFD bugs. EA will fix much of them in 1.03 patch I hope. And I think you could call this patch for C&C patch not the whole TFD pack. Is just fix 1 game in the pack.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thats better...Sounds like some triggers might be messed up or so?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Very, very, very good job! That's all I can say - and anyone else for that matter.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

the tragic thing is that when VK patches these games then EA feels less pressure to fix the games themselves and sadly a lot of people don't know about the fixes because VK's patches are not part of the automated auto-updating feature of the games.

i wish they would just hire VK finally coz this is getting ridiculous.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

EA must smash itself into the wall...
It is sad that only fans can fix stuff that could be fixed aeons ago by EA themselves :/

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

this is (sry) off topic, but a path beyond has just released their beta version!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't really want to cause a fuss, but VK didn't patch C&C95, he just released an installer that installs a file that Scorpio9a made some time ago.
I'm aware that he gives credit to the download link and I don't think VK is trying to steal any undue credit or anything, but I think credit to the author that made it all possible should be in there as well =)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I don't really want to cause a fuss, but VK didn't patch C&C95, he just released an installer that installs a file that Scorpio9a made some time ago.
I'm aware that he gives credit to the download link and I don't think VK is trying to steal any undue credit or anything, but I think credit to the author that made it all possible should be in there as well =)

hey, can you prove this?

I will say here, that my TD V1.05 patch created ONLY by me.
I don't use anything else for EXE, while dll comes from http://www.understorm.net/thipx/.

Yes, I know that someone already tried to fix border problem, but his code isn't good.

I have never seen Scorpio9a work at all.

At the end, you should upload here Scorpio9a file: so everyone can compare files in hex mode.

I estimate this as insult.

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Anderwin
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

VK now you can relax.
Is not a insult.
Maybe he have see fail on the files or something.
He even say I don't think VK is trying to steal
!!!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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VK now you can relax.
Is not a insult.
Maybe he have see fail on the files or something.

He can, at first, disscuss it with someone, before posting.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Or just post it? Maybe he have done it?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

VK wrote:
while dll comes from http://www.understorm.net/thipx/.

I have never seen Scorpio9a work at all.

At the end, you should upload here Scorpio9a file: so everyone can compare files in hex mode.

I estimate this as insult.


Who do you think made that dll that you borrowed?

Even look on the page!

"Copyright(C) 2005-2006 Scorpio9a"

You fixed the map border problem, yes, but he fixed the LAN play problem by completely rebuilding a brand new TCP/IP module for it and that's what his DLL is for and all I'm saying is that you should give him credit for it...

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Wtf Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Scorpio9a RUNS understorm.net. So stop bullshitting.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I don't use anything else for EXE, while dll comes from http://www.understorm.net/thipx/.

And its on the page, so your point is...

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VK
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Who do you think made that dll that you borrowed?

Even look on the page!

"Copyright(C) 2005-2006 Scorpio9a"

You fixed the map border problem, yes, but he fixed the LAN play problem by completely rebuilding a brand new TCP/IP module for it and that's what his DLL is for and all I'm saying is that you should give him credit for it...

but read this:

Quote:
I don't really want to cause a fuss, but VK didn't patch C&C95, he just released an installer that installs a file that Scorpio9a made some time ago.


yes, I use this DLL and you CAN READ in readme, that it comes from URL.

I can remove this file if you want.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

VK, C&C crashes for me on the first GDI mission. Any idea as to why?
I'm using the TFD version with your patch and the CDs mounted to virtual drives.
I don't get an error message, the game just stops, and then a minute or so later, the music stops.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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VK, C&C crashes for me on the first GDI mission. Any idea as to why?
I'm using the TFD version with your patch and the CDs mounted to virtual drives.
I don't get an error message, the game just stops, and then a minute or so later, the music stops.

do you try to press ALT+TAB?
you can see message box above C&C95 window.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

VK wrote:
Quote:
Who do you think made that dll that you borrowed?

Even look on the page!

"Copyright(C) 2005-2006 Scorpio9a"

You fixed the map border problem, yes, but he fixed the LAN play problem by completely rebuilding a brand new TCP/IP module for it and that's what his DLL is for and all I'm saying is that you should give him credit for it...

but read this:

Quote:
I don't really want to cause a fuss, but VK didn't patch C&C95, he just released an installer that installs a file that Scorpio9a made some time ago.


yes, I use this DLL and you CAN READ in readme, that it comes from URL.

I can remove this file if you want.



No, I just said you should give credit to the author of that .dll, Scorpio9a. What's so hard about that?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, but only the start bar is drawn, and it doesn't show any other windows...

It also occurs in the first Nod mission.
And when I exit, Windows pops up an error report message, so [url=http://www.d2kstudios.com/imwalkingonsunshine/CNC Dump.zip">here[/url] is the dump information from that.

Kushan, he did give credit, and he didn't claim that he made it...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

VK,

Pointing at the actual file on the web is not giving credit to someone. And the fact that you didn't even knew who i were or what i did, pretty much says enough. Research before you use something, you would have known that it was me who build it if you did.

So if you would be so kind to give me proper credit for thipx/lan fixing, all will be fine. And please point to http://www.understorm.net/thipx/ rather then the actual file.

Personally I always wanted to see a simple installer for a collection of fixes for C&C95, so its good you made one.

Thanks,
-Scorpio9a

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OK, I will change it.
Quote:
Personally I always wanted to see a simple installer for a collection of fixes for C&C95, so its good you made one.

hey, this isn't collection of fixes #evil This is MY 1.05 update for C&C95.exe.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:35 pm    Post subject: Wtf! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shut up.
And if it wasn't a collection of fixes, it wouldn't include Scorp's (and mine really!) network fix.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey, lay off VK. He made the update on the patch, and claimed credit only for the EXE patch. He, in no way, claimed the dll, so stop bringing it back up.

Sheesh.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

"his is MY 1.05 update for C&C95.exe."

which contain OTHER people's work

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i guess it depends on how significant the DLL is compared to the EXE. i guess if both sides only know their own code and don't know how complicated the other's code is and they think their code is vastly harder to create than the other's code then they end up upset with each other like this.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well in that case, think of it this way.
VK's .exe patching fixes issues with crashes that had a work around (to an extent).
Scorp's DLL completely rewrote the netcode for the game from SCRATCH, before it came out the only way to play TD online was by installing Windows 95/98.

But that doesn't really matter, all I wanted VK to do was add a little line saying "thanks to Scorpio9a for the .dll" and I don't think anyone will disagree with that. Scorp is just too damn modest for his own good =P

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Actually, there was a workaround for the online issues. Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

WideOpenSpace wrote:
"This is MY 1.05 update for C&C95.exe."

which contain OTHER people's work

Let's read that again, but this time, pay more attention to the end of the sentence.

for C&C95.exe

Where did he claim ownership of the dll? He didn't, it's that simple.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

IcySon55 wrote:
WideOpenSpace wrote:
"This is MY 1.05 update for C&C95.exe."

which contain OTHER people's work

Let's read that again, but this time, pay more attention to the end of the sentence.

for C&C95.exe

Where did he claim ownership of the dll? He didn't, it's that simple.

and now Vista users can play network games on C&C95!
Before adding scorpio's dll for some reason caused a crash error, which no longer happens. Thanks to both for getting C&C95 to work! Now something needs to be done with RA1, which seems to still be checking for the IPX protocol (even though it's not needed). And before someone says port IPX from XP, that does not work.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I already updated my version.

Quote:
VK's .exe patching fixes issues with crashes that had a work around (to an extent).
Scorp's DLL completely rewrote the netcode for the game from SCRATCH, before it came out the only way to play TD online was by installing Windows 95/98.

no. my EXE work in times harder than this stupid dll. it don't have anything fantastic at all.
just IPX to WinSocks code.

Problem already solved.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well if it's a "stupid DLL" why don't you just take it out and write your fucking own, mr big shot?
I don't think I was unreasonable about this and Scorp certainly wasn't, all that was asked for was a bit of credit, but now you're insulting the man's work? You're a fucking joke, VK, now I completely get why you failed with the Rock Patch.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Can you give me any help, VK?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Too bad for you, he really can make his own dll. That's if he wants to bother. I can't support the insult though.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm not saying that he can't, what I'm saying is if you're going to use someone else's work, give them due credit and definitely don't insult it or them.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

VK, there was no need for your reaction just over asking for credit.
It isn't important how little the work done is. If you distribute it and
it's done by someone and that someone isn't you, you should credit that someone automatically and if you can't find the name you should
use/code something else.
Everyone, stop flaming over nothing. The problem is solved, credit is there, the end.
Asm hacking is definitely much harder than basic programming, although I have no idea about code of that .dll.
(didn't check the files myself, I'm not modding/playing C&C anymore)
Offtopic: VK, are you still planning to write a C&C engine remake?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:09 am    Post subject: You're funny Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

VK wrote:
I already updated my version.
no. my EXE work in times harder than this stupid dll.

Hahahah haha ha.
The only stupid things are your face, your idiocy and you.
You have no idea...

VK wrote:
it don't have anything fantastic at all.

You're probably the only one who doesn't find online/LAN play fantastic.

VK wrote:
just IPX to WinSocks code.

If you weren't so stupid, you would realize that the IPX protocol is implemented through winsock (and probably some miniport drivers or something).

I doubt you could ever create a module like that.

Kiith-Sa wrote:
Asm hacking is definitely much harder than basic programming, although I have no idea about code of that .dll.

So you believe it didn't require reverse engineering the dll? It did. It also required figuring the paramters passed to it and how IPX works in 16 bit code out.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Look, i think this is getting utterly stupid... no need for it is there?

BTW, VK could never code something like the DLL? Im 101% sure he could, he has VAST knowledge of the Windows API from what i know.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yeah, he has knowledge to steal other work.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And I have the knowledge to lock this topic. This kind of flaming is not tolerated here.

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ViPr wrote:
i guess it depends on how significant the DLL is compared to the EXE. i guess if both sides only know their own code and don't know how complicated the other's code is and they think their code is vastly harder to create than the other's code then they end up upset with each other like this.


This shorts the whole thing.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

In a quick update, this topic is being moved to the crap forum, because VK is not crediting the authors of dll, neither the source of it anymore. So, it is not worth the news anymore, as ripping is not supported here either. If you wanna discuss it, do it outside PPM.


[Moved to Crap forum]

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