Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:05 pm Post subject:
No Christmas for me
Yeah no Christmas for me because I got a fight with step mother and my father.
I say I do not believe on god and yeah thats things of stuff. I cant be a believer I not believe on something. Just thinking on it just do I think on is not happened and so on. Then my step mother say: They some do not believe do just take the good things from it. Get free from school and so on.
We some do not believe just take the good things like I say. Then I say: Then I'm gonna stop celebrate Christmas then because I'm not a believer.
I believe on the real world. Technology, research and thats kind of stuff.
So then I took a choose, I will hate myself if I take the gift from people some believe and celebrate Christmas. So my step mother mean all some do not believe should not celebrate Christmas. Then I took the choose, do not celebrate it.
I think others then other people I have find out. I will of course stop celebrate now. Because I will not be a bad boy some will take good bites.
Then my step mother say: I cant celebrate it when it.
[Do not read if you a believer]
I cant believe on something some do not a true or argument.
[Do not read if you a believer]
Then I cant sit down and celebrate it one day if I need believe on it.
Just called my mom and she start to cry a bit.
This is a choose I take, because I'm not a believer.
Please be serious people. This is kinda really a big problem.
Stian is not a believer and then he not gonna celebrate the Christmas.
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject:
At first I was like
I lol'd.
Then I was like
Christmas isn't just about getting gifts you materialistic twat. Its about being with people you love. How do you think people who lose loved ones in war, or whatever reason, feel about Christmas? Boo hoo, you're not getting any video games for the holidays.
This have nothing to do with video games .
Maybe I wrote a bit bad. But I don't get Christmas because I'm not a BELIEVER. _________________ Can you hide from me ? QUICK_EDIT
So, basically, you stop spending quality time with your loved ones, because they see it as a spiritual celebration?
Doesn't sound like a smart decision to me.
Who cares if it's a holiday because Christians believe it's Jesus's birthday? I love my family and my friends, and if they want to celebrate that love on December 24th/25th, so be it.
Celebrating christmas as an Atheist is not "taking the good things from religion". Especially not since I don't remember the Bible saying "Thou shalt go to Wal*Mart and spend your cash on shit.". Christmas is a universal tradition in western society, and becomes more and more independent from religion.
Or are you going to stop making Sunday your day off as well, because you don't want to "only take the good stuff out of religion"?
Almost every western society has Christian roots, no matter what religion current westerners belong to.
If your mother is seriously of the opinion that only real Christians are supposed to celebrate christmas, I'd like her to come on and show me the page in the Bible introducing Santa Claus. If she can't do that, it's time for all of you to accept that Christmas has long turned into a normal family holiday and insisting on it being a Christian fest is ridiculous. _________________ #renproj:renegadeprojects.com via Matrix - direct link QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject:
@Anderwin
People don't have to believe in God to celebrate Christmas dude..
But you're free to choose whether or not you want to miss out on the great time that everyone else is having
I respect that you consider your beliefs so important. You have to also consider how your beliefs are affecting you, and if you like the result or not. If you don't like where your beliefs lead you, don't be afraid to change em. Life's a search to find what works.
It's been discussed before, Christianity and "technology/research" can coexist just fine, if you define your beliefs right.
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you know the same evidence to prove religion, god etc exists is also used to prove that they don't exist. So why make a big deal out of it, just enjoy the holidays. _________________ 0h noez!11!!! one 11!! U just p00rd n00bs@uc3 a11 0v3r my l33t sk1llz!!!!!!11one!!111!!!one111!!!!!!!
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Team Black & Alexander, you missed the point in his story. His parents have made him an outcast for not believing and therefore will not allow him to participate in any Christmas related celebrations.
The evil doers here are his parents. They need a good lesson. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:29 pm Post subject:
IcySon55 wrote:
Team Black & Alexander, you missed the point in his story. His parents have made him an outcast for not believing and therefore will not allow him to participate in any Christmas related celebrations.
The evil doers here are his parents. They need a good lesson.
But yeah... I guess having overly religious step-parents is a terrible thing. Wait... step parents? More info on that will there be? _________________ DUNK! QUICK_EDIT
Don't feel bad. I know you don't get to free gifts and to spend quality time with your family; but at least you no longer subjected to the opium of the people.
Celebrate New Years instead, go out with friends and party.
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If there are people that overreacting, then they probably should not be at the internet, don't you think?
I see where you're coming from, Mate. However, there is a line between opinions and over-reacting. When people post opinions, it's alright, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Then we have the people who'll over-react. From some past experiences on other forums, the picture above is the kind that'll start a flame war and over-reacting. Agree?
Also, to be on-topic. I Really do feel sorry for you, Anderwin. Try to have a good one, yeah? QUICK_EDIT
Lmao...To no christmas,to religion,to evil parents,to religion again,to mcdonalds and now with gufu actually starting out a discussion about "serious" stuff....
Happy holidays it is
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I see where you're coming from, Mate. However, there is a line between opinions and over-reacting. When people post opinions, it's alright, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Then we have the people who'll over-react. From some past experiences on other forums, the picture above is the kind that'll start a flame war and over-reacting. Agree?
Also, to be on-topic. I Really do feel sorry for you, Anderwin. Try to have a good one, yeah?
So, because people will overreact to an opinion, the opinion should be censored? That sounds blatantly leftist. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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The evil doers here are his parents. They need a good lesson."
then tell his parents what i said _________________ 0h noez!11!!! one 11!! U just p00rd n00bs@uc3 a11 0v3r my l33t sk1llz!!!!!!11one!!111!!!one111!!!!!!!
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well, well, I don't really know what to say exactly to Anderwin (or Stian) because:
1.) Though what your parents did was harsh, I've found that it's best to obey and respect your folks..
2.) On the other hand, your own views and choices should be respected too. It's your brain and decisions anyway (and your soul at stake lol).
IDK if you've tried this but maybe you can try to reason with your folks.
read Renegade post as it makes a lot of sense. but if your folks insist that you GTFO unless you incorporate their beliefs (in which you don't want to believe in) well, you'll have to stick with what you believe in then. _________________ "War.... war never changes....." QUICK_EDIT
well, well, I don't really know what to say exactly to Anderwin (or Stian) because:
1.) Though what your parents did was harsh, I've found that it's best to obey and respect your folks..
2.) On the other hand, your own views and choices should be respected too. It's your brain and decisions anyway (and your soul at stake lol).
IDK if you've tried this but maybe you can try to reason with your folks.
read Renegade post as it makes a lot of sense. but if your folks insist that you GTFO unless you incorporate their beliefs (in which you don't want to believe in) well, you'll have to stick with what you believe in then.
@IVI
Good show ol' chap, just the way i would of said it.
@Anderwin
from what you know anderwin going against the grain is hard just stick to your opinion and don't let up.
not everyone is cut out to be a believer.
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Perhaps they need to be reminded that Christmas isn't necessarily about Christianity (nor consumerism), as it has been celebrated amongst many cultures, since it's a solstice. So to deny you the ability to celebrate Christmas is to deny themselves that ability also, since they don't believe in every other religious cultural tradition related to Christmas. Of course, reasoning is likely to fail, and I've wasted my time typing this. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:19 am Post subject:
This is just... plain stupid. Why shouldn't you be together with friends and family at one of the best times of the year, because you disagree with your parents about something simple like 'God'. My advice: go find some friends, and celebrate Christmas over there QUICK_EDIT
Wow! there is sanity on this screwed up rock of ours!
I would say thank god but I'm agnostic and there's already another flamewar about to erupt over that anyways. _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
Tolerance is the first step to religious and social enlightenment. Even if you are an atheist, let those around you practice as they see fit so long as their practices do not run cross with majority-held morals, ethics and honor-bound rules. One may even participate in their traditions and rituals as a show of friendship and understanding even if you are not a true member of their religion/culture. So long as the other side returns the favor and remains tolerant of your beliefs or lack thereof, the peace is maintained.
Tolerance is the first step to religious and social enlightenment. Even if you are an atheist, let those around you practice as they see fit so long as their practices do not run cross with majority-held morals, ethics and honor-bound rules. One may even participate in their traditions and rituals as a show of friendship and understanding even if you are not a true member of their religion/culture. So long as the other side returns the favor and remains tolerant of your beliefs or lack thereof, the peace is maintained.
Even though I don't agree with any religion, plus, I can get Irritated by people doing their religious deeds around me; Well said! QUICK_EDIT
Maybe next time pointless topics like this woun't come up again.
I hate talking religion on the grounds that it starts fights, I don't like it. _________________ Link to a document to see what mods i have and/or working on or working with
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I'm sorry Dubzac if you're mad but I really hate christmas it's because of these annoying fireworks, Lame christmas songs, foolish christmas parties (Gah! I hate children) and most of all..... I'm an anti-christ...... But I wish my religion doesn't affect my modding skills and my friends here..... And one more thing I'm touched on your story Anderwin I understand it too! _________________ QUICK_EDIT
btw my gandfather beleaves in Islam not the
(bullshit kill every chistain type more the peacefully giving kind..err yes my grandfather gave me money all the time so...??)
My parents are chistains so i understand the conflict of ideas but to tell you the truth i just hate talking about this sh*t. _________________ Link to a document to see what mods i have and/or working on or working with
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject:
IMO talking about beliefs is a good thing, so long as everyone can behave themselves.
Beliefs define who you are, and influence a great deal of decisions you'll make in life - I'd consider it at a high importance to find a belief that best helps you. _________________ The Fall of Hammerfest - Epic Tiberian chain story
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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject:
Team Black wrote:
IMO talking about beliefs is a good thing, so long as everyone can behave themselves.
Beliefs define who you are, and influence a great deal of decisions you'll make in life - I'd consider it at a high importance to find a belief that best helps you.
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