Soviet miner replacement

partyzanPaulZy · Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: Soviet miner replacement

One day I came to the PC and I saw that old soviet miner, then I realized how old it's. In modern times it should be outdated (even in RA2 universe).
So I started mixing parts of old harvester and TS devil tongue tanks.
This is result (edited Vxl viewer screenshot inside) Twisted Evil

Newest version

older (used in my mod):

Don't forget on credit. Rolling Eyes

(older versions included too)

miner.ZIP

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tell me your opinion (does it really look like container with spikes ? )

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Dutchygamer · Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject:

Not bad. It looks quite good, even for a c/p voxel. Only the gun is a bit small... I like it Very Happy

Anderwin · General **Joined**: 16 May 2005

Spotlight this is a kickass replace for a Soviet harvester =D

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Very nice! Spotlight

gufu · Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject:

too simple, looks too much like a garbage truck.

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Rico · Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject:

err.... what did the RA1 harvester look like Laughing

gufu · Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:17 am Post subject:

Rico wrote:

err.... what did the RA1 harvester look like Laughing

A garbage truck with a huge hand just like in Soylent Green?

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Aro · Alcohol Fueled **Joined**: 10 Sep 2006

I Don't like it. Not because that I'm against the majority of CnP things, but because it just doesn't look right. The hopper / container on the back looks good, but the tracks and front on the vehicle look... Well... I don't know what the word is, but those in-particular parts look really crumpled on 6 of the facings. It's also got the black dot disease, which I really dislike. Otherwise, nice work.

Clarkson · Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:54 am Post subject:

You guys scream spotlight at everything. That makes the spotlight forum lose its quality...

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Mei Ling wrote:

You guys scream spotlight at everything. That makes the spotlight forum lose its quality...

QFT!

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Dutchygamer · Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject:

I ain't screaming spotlight. I only say I like it...
And there are only 2 spotlight requests. One from Anderwin, and one from a guest (which shouldn't count, it's just a guest...)

Ickus · General **Joined**: 25 Nov 2002 **Location**: @__@

...design wise..its just not appealing to me.

concepts are tested if you can read what they are by mere silhouette. This method is used by the industry, I know its just a "hobby" and the "look I was bored, so I made this"...which think is a silly statement. but anyways.

its just too blocky...it needs nice little detail. it needs to be stylized..real things are designed with practicality in mind...costs production..etc..you don't have to worry about that..play around with that idea..

I it seems you did some research, in fact why not make different variants using different types of things you researched.

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Anderwin · General **Joined**: 16 May 2005

I mean this should get spotlight is a great voxel. I really liked it, and I not screaming spotlight this is my first spotlight yeah man can say weeks?

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partyzanPaulZy · Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject:

Black dots are problem, I tried fix them, but that container isn't simple box, so I fixed most of them and the rest is at edges of rails on sides.
The biggest problem of normals is applying normal map from another voxel, because it's too buggy.
I tried C n' P normals from source voxels (Harv, Utnk) into MS Paint, but reverse operation kicked blurred normals. Embarassed

It's blocky because it's simple then... Very Happy

... and compact.
I'll think about it.

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Dutchygamer wrote:

I ain't screaming spotlight. I only say I like it...
And there are only 2 spotlight requests. One from Anderwin, and one from a guest (which shouldn't count, it's just a guest...)

just becuse I am a guest dosent mean I am not a human. Scum bag....
I am not a jew

Team Black · Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject:

lolwut

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Audiopulse · Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject:

Insulting jews out of the blues into this isnt really funny...

Dutchygamer as well as quite a lot of the other registered users do know already that there are often guests not really matured or even just polite. Or would you for example call "scumbag" politeness?

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Banshee · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:08 am Post subject:

The guest above (Gaffel) will need to use another IP. Prejudice against any kind of religion is not tolerated in this forum (and he was bypassing a ban anyway).

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i why baned? i kno it was other cameo but i not say it's mine? i is to help the other. i not kno it was from mooman? T_T

stil sory for bad ingles T_T

Mortecha · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:06 am Post subject:

To fix those black dots, use auto normalizer. The simpler the better and also use TS normals.

On the texture, your better off using a plane light brownish colour outlined in succession by one or 2 shades of darker brown around all the edges of the voxel. Outlining is the best way to make good looking voxels.

All in all i'll have to agree with both Aro and Icyson on this one. Research different styles of vehicle architectures and remember that simplicity is key, insignias on vehicles arn't really necessary, your better off using a strip of remap. I am glad though that you have used a grinder configuration for the ore collection method.

Dupl3xxx · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:56 am Post subject:

It needs new normals, the normals is like a box, no shape!

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Rico · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:10 am Post subject:

Mei Ling wrote:

You guys scream spotlight at everything. That makes the spotlight forum lose its quality...

I dont think its spotlight material, but its an alright voxel Smile

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The guest above (Gaffel) will need to use another IP. Prejudice against any kind of religion is not tolerated in this forum (and he was bypassing a ban anyway).

Gaffel is not visiting ppm site anymore, its his brother Hemlig!(me)

Dutchygamer · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:34 am Post subject:

Excuse me? Me a scumbag? Only because I say what all other ppl would say. Also, where did I say that I hate jews? I didn't mention any jew or any other religion...
You sir, fail Rolling Eyes

Ontopic: something bothers me about the cameo. The background is too light, so you can't see the text very good. Maybe you could create a new cameo with a less bright background?

Clarkson · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:32 am Post subject:

I didn't say you, Rico, Im just saying that when a voxel is posted, half the posts don't give critiscism, they just hark SPOTLIGHT! which will kill the quality the spotlight forum is for...

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Rico · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:41 am Post subject:

I must agree there, atleast somewhat. Smile

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I used newest normalizer and the results on container were terrible, there was much more black dots (even black lines), so I tried fix them manually.

I am thinking about new camouflaged container.

Clarkson · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject:

Camoflauged? Personally, I wouldn't because this is supposed to blend in with the current Soviet scheme, no? 1 cammied miner is going to stick out a boatload against the stock Soviet stuff.

holy shit me and rico agreed on something. :O

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Dupl3xxx · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject:

OK...

Try this (wasn't planing to go public with this yet, but what the hell)

AutoNormals 5.6
Rage between 1.7 and 2.2
Smooth checked
Build Influence Map cheked
Treat Descontinuities checked
Smooth level = 15
Contras level = 5

Notice that the differnece between Smooth and Contrast is 3:1. So Contrast=4 would get 4*3=12 and Smooth=12

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partyzanPaulZy · Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject:

OK,no camo. container (but with some fixes), and I will try those normals.
The hardest will be improving grinder surface.
And I will add some ore in front of the cameo to be more readable.

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partyzanPaulZy · Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject:

Thanks Dupl3xxx!

Here's new version:

fixed.zip

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Just forgot... Now it seems to be fixed.

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Blueguard · Cyborg Specialist **Joined**: 22 Aug 2007

That's really good!
One thing it needs is OmniCrusher=yes .

wardeathfun · Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject:

oh crap. now you should make a yuri one that has big o spikes around it XD

Dupl3xxx · Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject:

partyzanPaulZy, promise me one thing, never use the "Remove Redundent Voxels", it creatis black holes!

Other than that, some neat details on the newest version Very Happy

Oh, and smooth normals look great in editors, but have a look:
1st pic is AN 5.6
2nd pic is my normals (see above post)

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partyzanPaulZy · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject:

---------------UPDATED----------------
Thanks again. I forgot on that range. Rolling Eyes

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Rico · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject:

thats definently an improvement Smile

BrianPrime · Shrapnel Sniper **Joined**: 26 Jul 2007

I actually really, really like this. You're obviously very good with the texture tool.

Its shape is not the most appealing to me, but it's very sharp and nice looking, and fits in just fine! It's a nice change, and it differentiates it more from the allied miner. Smile

And while the allied miner doesn't look all that much like the soviet one, one can find similarities.

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Dupl3xxx · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject:

Tell, could this be spotlight-materila?
It looks good ingame, it's not a rippoff, it's different, and has good textures! And a very decent normals Wink

I give it 10/10=Spotlight!

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Aro · Alcohol Fueled **Joined**: 10 Sep 2006

Now THAT looks good. Nice work.

Dutchygamer · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:47 am Post subject:

You have improved well since the first verion Smile

It does look very good now. I dunno if I would say spotlight or not though...

CalChillin · Missile Trooper **Joined**: 23 Oct 2007

That updated one is a lot better a spotlight is in order if you ask me

partyzanPaulZy · Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject:

So, what about spotlight? Banshee ? (Maybe I'll need PM him...) Very Happy

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Electro · Vehicle Drone **Joined**: 03 Jul 2007

This. Is. Awesome! Spotlight it. Quickly and swiftly.

CalChillin · Missile Trooper **Joined**: 23 Oct 2007

i don't see why banshee has not spotlighted this yet Question

partyzanPaulZy · Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject:

Somebody tell me please, what's so wrong with that voxel... Rolling Eyes

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Lt Albrecht · Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject:

ummm...
I
don't
really
know
It looks great, maybe re-colour the rollers/grinders on the front to a metal colour? That's all I can think of...

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partyzanPaulZy · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject:

a little update.... Very Happy

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Lt Albrecht · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject:

Ok, looks good but try this= use the 54-50 colours and paint either alterate sideways sections of each drum (so it will look striped from the front) OR do shaded spirals so you'll get a //////// effect on each roller.

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-_- · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:15 am Post subject:

So... is this going to be spotlighet?
I vote YEES. Oh yes.. God oh yeah yes yes yes yes

gufu · Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:11 am Post subject:

Rico wrote:

err.... what did the RA1 harvester look like Laughing

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