Zoom Trigger

CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

Quick question to you trigger g33ks out there...

Does the zoom trigger work?

Ixith · Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:52 am Post subject:

I remember reading something about this a long time ago. I think it was something along the lines of that it does work, however you can't zoom back out or something like that.

Though I can't say that is 100% for sure because I myself have not messed with the trigger.
I have a feeling Team Black will investigate this now though that the question was asked... Laughing

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Team Black · Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:11 am Post subject:

The zoom trigger works for sure, though you'll have to probably use "center camera on waypoint" trigger to make it half practical.

When you're "zoomed in" you have no mouse control, only keyboard commands (E to select all, X to scatter, D to deploy, etc. Not much to make an enjoyable game out of Wink

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So what you do is make one more trigger, "unlock player input", which apparently both zooms back to normal, and enables normal battlefield control again.

I attached a map with these triggers so you can test it. The triggers are:
30 seconds - zoom in
60 seconds - zoom in
90 seconds - zoom out twice
300 seconds - unlock player control

Here's a screenie
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Ixith · Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:45 am Post subject:

Ixith wrote:

I have a feeling Team Black will investigate this now though that the question was asked... Laughing

I SO called that one.

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

Ah, cheers guys, i just needed to know for sure as i was looking though the Action code and i suck with mapping #Tongue

Aro · Alcohol Fueled **Joined**: 10 Sep 2006

1 - I admit I never knew that this worked, I thought It was a typo or something.
2 - It's a really pointless trigger to be fair, when zoomed in on the voxels and terrain etc. it makes everything look really stupid and pixelated, It really serves no purpose.

Team Black · Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject:

lol Ixith, I actually didn't even read your post Laughing

maybe for mission intros it could used nicely, with some camera controls

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Machine · Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject:

Aro wrote:

It really serves no purpose.

I already thought a use for this (Bunkers and RO, you do the math #Tongue

; check the staff forum if you forgot about it)

Aro · Alcohol Fueled **Joined**: 10 Sep 2006

Quote:

(Bunkers and RO, you do the math #Tongue

check the staff forum if you forgot about it)

I Never forgot. Wink

But We don't need this trigger... It can be done without it, making things look better at the same time. This Trigger just causes problems, hence why It's never really talked about.

Tratos · General **Joined**: 01 Jan 2003

http://www.ppmsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2769

Since we now know more about the game exe and its inner workings, perhaps you could look into some of the things brought up in that old old thread TSHyper

CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

Ah yea, that. I know how to enable player input while in zoom, it just turns a InputLocked feature on and disables scrolling.

djohe · Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject:

TSHyper can you disable that InputLocked code in your yet unreleased patch Laughing

so that the Zoom funtion may actually be used or will it affect other stuff too wher there is a InputLock

Team Black · Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject:

I wouldn't consider it very practical for the work it would take.. who really wants to play in zoomed-in mode anyhow #Tongue

The only place I could see the zoom feature doing any kind of good is in singleplayer map intros, where player input is locked and the game camera is controlled all by triggers.

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

DJ, sure, its on my list #Tongue

TB, O rly? I have better ideas for it Wink

VK · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject:

http://forums.revora.net/index.php?showtopic=53825

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Joshy · Schwing! **Joined**: 13 Aug 2006

No way! VK! You really did it! oh man.....

TSHyper has got hear about this........

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

I know about it, and it never worked for me, just caused bad drawing errors everywhere.

pd · Laser Commando **Joined**: 19 Jun 2005 **Location**: Gone

I have doubts that an unlocked player input would work anyway.

Ever thought about why there's an input lock?
Because if zoomed in, you need new calculations for leptons <-> screen coords conversion.

IE if you click somewhere, it will be triggered somewhere else.
And if you click outside the top left quarter of the map, you could get severe problems clicking cells that don't exist (there's a protection for such a case, but I don't know what happens if you "click the default cell").

You really think WW had time to solve these issues?
If so, good luck re-enabling it. Smile

Joshy · Schwing! **Joined**: 13 Aug 2006

Oh, wow pd, I never thought about that...... hmmm.... quite a difficult task then. Confused

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

pd wrote:

I have doubts that an unlocked player input would work anyway.

Ever thought about why there's an input lock?
Because if zoomed in, you need new calculations for leptons <-> screen coords conversion.

IE if you click somewhere, it will be triggered somewhere else.
And if you click outside the top left quarter of the map, you could get severe problems clicking cells that don't exist (there's a protection for such a case, but I don't know what happens if you "click the default cell").

You really think WW had time to solve these issues?
If so, good luck re-enabling it. Smile

Yea, i have had some problems with it, and i did wonder if there was problems. But im still looking into it.

VK · Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:41 am Post subject:

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I have doubts that an unlocked player input would work anyway.

Ever thought about why there's an input lock?
Because if zoomed in, you need new calculations for leptons <-> screen coords conversion.

IE if you click somewhere, it will be triggered somewhere else.
And if you click outside the top left quarter of the map, you could get severe problems clicking cells that don't exist (there's a protection for such a case, but I don't know what happens if you "click the default cell").

You really think WW had time to solve these issues?
If so, good luck re-enabling it.

I don't know that kind of problems you have, but when I test it, it works fine, except mouse cursor. No IEs at all.
So in future please check it before posting.

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

Excuse me? No need to get all uptight and up in peoples faces, perhaps he dont want to invest time into something that will not benefit anyone?

So in future, please think nice thoughts before posting.