EA Games Spore & Mass Effect to Sport Restrictive DRM

DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr

I was just browsing the net, when I read THIS:

http://planetcnc.gamespy.com/fullstory.php?id=150777

I crapped myself when I read it... okay, I didn't. The article doesn't affect me that badly. Just never buy an EA game again! Ha HA, problem solved... then again, other companies could follow suite...

PUNKASSMOTHERFUUUUUUUCKERRRSSS!!!!!!!! This better just be an experiment.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, please read the following story:

http://planetcnc.gamespy.com/fullstory.php?id=150777

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DonutArnold · General **Joined**: 18 Jan 2005 **Location**: Finland

Owwow! I haven't spent my money for EA games after buying C+C: Generals Deluxe Edition and I still won't. #Tongue

Oshog · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject:

DonutArnold · General **Joined**: 18 Jan 2005 **Location**: Finland

@Gosho: lulz, I agree #Tongue

Lt Albrecht · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject:

That's just being anal, I knew EA were arses but now I have proof. I suggest they cange their branding to:
EA Gays: Screw up Everything

(Can someone make a substitute EA intro video like the RA2 one but with the sounds and text changed? That'd just be so funny).

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Apex · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject:

And I was looking foreward to spore... And I thought Steam was bad. If my connection goes down I MIGHT consider a sketchy version of the game since I have internet off and on because of money and/or intrest in it. I bet there will be a lawsuit if they cancel the software that this game uses... EA has pulled some things out of its ass to piss people off but this just tops the ztyping cake!

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IcySon55 · Commander **Joined**: 19 Nov 2003 **Location**: Overworld

Apex wrote:

I have internet off and on because of ... interest in it.

I find that statement more outrageous than EAs DRM plans.

Apex · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject:

Its not ME that decides if the internet stays connected, my parents pay the bills so if they dont need it, they cancel their service.

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ChielScape · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject:

DonutArnold wrote:

@Gosho: lulz, I agree #Tongue

you're supposed to BAN him for that...

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DonutArnold · General **Joined**: 18 Jan 2005 **Location**: Finland

Ban who what where? And why? I didn't do anything wrong, neither did Gosho. He just reminded me to watch Pirates of the Caribbean for some ideas for TFTD. #Tongue

Apex · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject:

If I interpreted this correctly you just cant post links to warez

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gufu · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject:

Is not link = does not compute.

Now, ho wmany days will it take for a crack anyway? Very Happy

Wait, can we still download content with the crack? :/

Er... I mean, eagerly awaiting.

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Team Black · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject:

EA games: Coming up with best and latest anti-piracy software that will only encourage even more piracy

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Apex · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject:

Isnt that the way it usually works? "I lost my cd-key!" "Hey, this versoun doesnt need one and its free!" "Arrested..."

And wasnt your name "Captain Black" a second ago?

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Arikado · Jumpjet Infantry **Joined**: 17 Dec 2005

gufu wrote:

Wait, can we still download content with the crack? :/

Wouldn't matter in Spore's case as it'll have pre-made stuff to populate your universe. Plus, being EA, we'll have Spore add on packs every year with more junk.
Unless you really want your universe to have an abundance of Tit/Cock/Vagina/All at once-Monsters.

All this money spent on zany, new copy protection is pretty futile though. It's only an annoyance to the paying consumer. Neutral

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IcySon55 · Commander **Joined**: 19 Nov 2003 **Location**: Overworld

Arikado wrote:

It's only an annoyance to the paying consumer. Neutral

...and I WAS going to buy Spore, but now it looks like I won't.

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Sir Modsalot · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:35 am Post subject:

Capn' Black wrote:

EA games: Coming up with best and latest anti-piracy software that will only encourage even more piracy

The only problem I have with them is that their ass-ugly anti-piracy bullcrap in post-1.05 TW and KW that makes the game not start up after you've used Process Explorer, forcing you to either log out and back in or reboot (yes, logging out and back in works, tried it).

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DaFool · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006

First ingame advertisements with absolutly no benefit to the player....
then we're forced to have their "Ok" everytime we want to play?
Whats next?

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Machine · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:23 am Post subject:

IcySon55 wrote:

...and I WAS going to buy Spore, but now it looks like I won't.

I think that I'll follow your example Laughing

. Probably just going to download the free creature creator demo. Though this makes the improved (complete creature creator) non-free demo version more interesting than before.

IcySon55 · Commander **Joined**: 19 Nov 2003 **Location**: Overworld

Demo? lol...yeah, that's exactly it...lol

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Clarkson · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:46 am Post subject:

OMG I HAVE TORRENTS.

WHO WANTS A TORRENT OF UNIVERSE AT WAR?
CRYSIS?
POKEMON?

don't hate cause im on dial up yo. imma have to pwn a nigga if thats the case

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Destiny · President **Joined**: 02 May 2006 **Location**: Singapore

That's EA for us. Told ya this year was going down in a negative spiral.

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Banshee · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:46 am Post subject:

If RA3 and Tiberium uses this DRM, PPM will boycott them. I'm deadly serious.

Ickus · General **Joined**: 25 Nov 2002 **Location**: @__@

I agree with not supporting this type of DRM. but hopefully things will change..considering the negative effect it has generated against "sales".

but..sad that its this way. What next the Sony/BMG root kit scandal all over again?

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Oshog · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:53 am Post subject:

Banshee, if you do that, it's a harakiri. You save your honour, but lose your site in a few years.

I'm fully supporting this decision. EA games just can't do this.

Warez and torrents exist. So do people, who rip games and upload them. EA Games or any other company CAN NOT STOP this.

DaFool · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006

What company is worse? EA for this or hasbro for having their toys be made with plastic that has lead in it and by children who are 6 years old? Thinking aboiut it, the disks are probably made by the same kids....

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Ickus · General **Joined**: 25 Nov 2002 **Location**: @__@

Well there is some what of the server goes down, French's (BioWare offical) stated they would release a patch to disable the asking the "its ok permission to play. "

I can only wonder what their response is to such knee jerk reaction against this type of protection? The original thread seemed to indicate they are still very commited to this form of DRM. in BioWare's case. I admit I did not read every page. (13) ircc.

. EA being a larger company, I can see they don't really mind losing sales just push this unpopular method of DRM into the market, which is the same one used by BioShock just updated? , but thats a gamble, lol everyone is sure quick to raise their Jolly Rogers.

Which in the eyes of corporation aka EA, they might consider that a threat,, thats all they see. especially with the lovely EA bashin'

<i>so just be careful. Especially in a post-RIAA world. #Tongue

you never know who they want to sue now. ;P</i>

but best to keep open communication and gain as much facts about this issue at hand as this develops.

Its going to be pretty interesting...

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Banshee · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject:

Gosho wrote:

Banshee, if you do that, it's a harakiri. You save your honour, but lose your site in a few years.

I'm fully supporting this decision. EA games just can't do this.

Warez and torrents exist. So do people, who rip games and upload them. EA Games or any other company CAN NOT STOP this.

There are still TS fans visiting here and TS was made in the last milenium. While PPM could loose some popularity with this kind of move, it is totally able to survive with a fair community.

DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject:

I agree with Banshee's previous statement.

Also: YES!!! TORRENTS ARE GIFTS, FREE GIFTS FROM GOD HIMSELF!!!

You want a videogame? Movie? Song? Album? Document? And you don't want to pay money for it, at all? Just remember this word, my friend: Torrent... oh, and also remember this word: Google...

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Clarkson · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject:

PPM could survive on TS alone. I mean, who the ztype mods Red Alert 2? Rolling Eyes

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gufu · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject:

Clarkson wrote:

PPM could survive on TS alone. I mean, who the ztype mods Red Alert 2? Rolling Eyes

TACTICS and TFTD!
*Crowbars Carno*

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DonutArnold · General **Joined**: 18 Jan 2005 **Location**: Finland

Clarkson wrote:

PPM could survive on TS alone. I mean, who the ztype mods Red Alert 2? Rolling Eyes

Dunno, lol. Laughing

Clarkson · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject:

TAKTICS and TFTD. Aside from them? Lol. its Tiberian Sun city.

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DaFool · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006

There are two Generals , mods under development in the mod announcement page... I don't know know about dutchy, but I should be finished before the decade's over

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Banshee · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject:

Errr... TS was a sample of an old game that still survives well here. Just a sample, guys... Wink

Clarkson · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject:

If by survive, you mean thrive, then yes.

Tiberian Sun thrives here.

Red Alert, C&C95 = lol

Red Alert 2 is half dead. It has a few big mods. Generals is nonexistent. C&C3 is getting the occasional breeze. Though it was more active back when people were bitching about when C&C3 would be a 3D TS clone or not.

Red Alert 2 is..surviving. Generals is dead, and C&C3 is famished. We all know this, but it is continuly denied.

"There are no Generals mods in PPM!"

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DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:07 am Post subject:

PPM will survive because it is hosted at Revora.

The Revora Network is BIG, covers ALL C&C games, except for SS and there's really no TD mods or anything either. Plus, it covers BfME 1 & 2 as well as Dawn of War, and maybe a few more games.

PPM will survive.

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DaFool · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006

http://www.ppmsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17918

sure, Im not hosted but thats just a technicality. I am making the mod and I am a member of this site. Therefore, in my opinion the generals mod is here. (of course the mod will most likely be finished in a very very long time).

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gufu · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:33 am Post subject:

DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr wrote:

PPM will survive because it is hosted at Revora.

The Revora Network is BIG, covers ALL C&C games, except for SS and there's really no TD mods or anything either. Plus, it covers BfME 1 & 2 as well as Dawn of War, and maybe a few more games.

PPM will survive.

Fail a not remembering Nyegurds epic mod.

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Banshee · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:06 am Post subject:

Clarkson wrote:

If by survive, you mean thrive, then yes.

Tiberian Sun thrives here.

Red Alert, C&C95 = lol

Red Alert 2 is half dead. It has a few big mods. Generals is nonexistent. C&C3 is getting the occasional breeze. Though it was more active back when people were bitching about when C&C3 would be a 3D TS clone or not.

Red Alert 2 is..surviving. Generals is dead, and C&C3 is famished. We all know this, but it is continuly denied.

"There are no Generals mods in PPM!"

I think that an average of 700+ uniques a day is much more than just 'thrive', even if many of those people who visit the place doesn't mod TS, I'm sure there are over a hundred visitors of this site modding TS or interested on it.

Don't expect PPM to ever reach the number of visitors of a big place like IGN/GameSpot/GameSpy unless something extremely epic that shakes the whole world happens here.

Destiny · President **Joined**: 02 May 2006 **Location**: Singapore

Epic, like simply allowing the OrcaTran to fly properly, land, load and unload infantry without using any 3rd part software, and using the rules.ini ONLY? lol. But that's merely a thought.

I'm pretty sure even if we boycott RA3 we'll survive...

Quote:

PPM could survive on TS alone. I mean, who the ztype mods Red Alert 2?

As the guys said TACKTICS and TFTD already...

3 ) Star Strike (YR is still RA2: YR, no? Juggers can wtfpwn everything on the ground!)
4 ) RA2: Moscow's Vengeance (What can I say...this is purely a win.)
5 ) Derelict Soil (Droke's works are pretty amazing.)
6 ) Shattered Skies (AC in an RTS.)
7 ) Global Genocide (I'm not sure, the activity's been low...)
8 ) Twisted Malice (Same here.)

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Alex06 · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject:

EDIT: Oh, wait, we just won the fight.

http://kotaku.com/5008452/bioware-backs-down-from-draconian-mass-effect-authentication
http://kotaku.com/5008454/spore-to-use-online-authentication

"Despite some hand-wringing by fans, EA today announced that their hugely anticipated Will Wright game Spore will not make use of SecuROM's 10-day periodic re-authetication and instead use a modified version to require online authentication.

The announcement comes on the heels of news that Mass Effect will also be ditching the ten day re-authentication."

"The developer said the decision came after listening "very closely" to its fans and that the new system will also allow gamers to play the game without the DVD in the drive."

SW00T, this makes it even better! So the activation is now just like with software like Adobe products and Earth 2160. (But without the phone activation, though it'd be nice to have that...but then, it'd be easily pirate-able/hackable)

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lol. Guess the community's roving enough to make them change their minds.

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gufu · Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:02 am Post subject:

Well, I guess EA DOES look over internets from time to time.

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Lt Albrecht · Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:46 am Post subject:

Quote:

RA2: Moscow's Vengeance (What can I say...this is purely a win.)

Thank you, For your act of praise I'll release some screens of a few new units and a new turret for the MBT (I got tired of the old M60/Upgraded M60 cross, you might see where the ureet originated frm before I tweaked it, or you might not...)

Stuff you might see:
Carrier
Interceptor Jet
A10
Destroyer
New Mammoth
Soviet med. Tank with bigger turret
Multiple-Rocket launcher
Tank Destroyer (OMG! Not another Light-tank based thing!!)

That is, if I can be bothered to post screens, which I will be some time today.

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