The Tick Tank

FinalMoon · Cyborg Cannon **Joined**: 21 Apr 2003

Ok, I'm a bit puzzled, so I'm coming to you for the history of yet another unit in Tiberian Sun, SMIFF. Since you're the authority on the TS beta and all. Wink

I was looking at the deploying animation for the tick tank today and I thought I was seeing the 3TNK deploy into the deployed tick tank. It was quite odd looking, then I opened up the mixer, and realised it's not the 3tnk, but a tick tank with 2 barrels.

Of course, now that I think about it, I don't remember any beta screens featuring the TTNK (though I could be wrong) unless it was that tank with 2 barrels that I was assuming this whole time was the 3TNK...

Was the 3TNK originally intended to be in the game, or to be the tick tank?

I'm a bit confused here, could you give me the 4-11... (just asking out of curiosity is all)

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SMIFFGIG · Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 11:41 pm Post subject:

Well spotted FinalMoon, i havent actually noticed that twin barrel on the buildup, but im pretty sure your right although hard to see.

In those way old Beta shots u do actually see the 3TNK (Heavy Tank) and it was just like a placeholder to make it look as if Nod actually had some units so they could take screenshots etc, but it was never intended to be ingame

But the Tick tank was meant to have 2 twin short barrels, firstly take a look at this very late beta screenshot (ingame) where the Tick Tank has twin barrels
http://www.tiberiumsun.com/gameinfo/images/ingame/ingame21.jpg

and secondly look at this Hi-Res shot of an early tick tank model

the third image shows the Tick tank used in the cameo in TS, note the nice claw things at the front and the short Dual barrels again

odly the fourth image shows the Tick tank deployed with a single turret

EDIT: I forgot to say, nice you mentioning this now as the Tick Tank is going to be improved for 1.2, too give it dual barrels etc, so good timing as its only recently being worked on (or mentioned anyway).

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Big Scene, shows Tick tanks deployed but with single turret

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Early Tick tank model

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SMIFFGIG · Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 11:46 pm Post subject:

oh and another nice bit of info the "Tick Tanks" original name was the "Mole Tank" Very Happy

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FinalMoon · Cyborg Cannon **Joined**: 21 Apr 2003

I think they had the right idea changing it to tick... Mole would sort of imply that it's subterranean.

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FireStorm · Stealth Laser Trooper **Joined**: 30 Dec 2002

yeah, Ticks should be name but I've made them subterannean in my prev mods, anw here's what I've got with the TTNK...

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SMIFFGIG · Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:58 pm Post subject:

Looking good once again FS, the deployed turret will need editing too Smile

btw the mobile EMP u made doesnt look right on NE and SW angles

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FireStorm · Stealth Laser Trooper **Joined**: 30 Dec 2002

they dont, could u like show me ingame screens if you have the time?

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SeaMan · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 6:47 pm Post subject:

I like that tank.

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Guest · Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 10:13 pm Post subject:

SeaMan wrote:

I like that tank.

i don't know, it's cool but i have never liked the tick tank, we really need to find more good picture of the tick tank

Mike · Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 9:08 am Post subject:

on scene49.jpeg sent by SMIFFIG i see 3 barrels

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The DvD · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:24 pm Post subject:

they're just some claws to make it look like a tick

Mike · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 6:07 pm Post subject:

what is a tick?

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FireStorm · Stealth Laser Trooper **Joined**: 30 Dec 2002

lol... one animal which love to stuck up to your head, i guess.... or in the horror movie 'Ticks', one which 'go' inside a human body...

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Merophage · Grenadier **Joined**: 26 Mar 2003

I think it's that insect from the mummy, that goess inside your body and kill you, though I think they exagurated at it

FinalMoon · Cyborg Cannon **Joined**: 21 Apr 2003

Ah yes, the scarab beetle...

Scarab Tank?

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Guest · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 11:02 pm Post subject:

yeah tick tank = scarab tank

so it need really claws

The DvD · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 1:11 pm Post subject:

LOL, a tick is a small spider that uses it's claws to make a tiny hole in a mammal's skin, then sucks the blood and stores it inside it's body (it can get REAL big this way).. then, the blood is used later on to feed the little baby ticks it produces (AAAHHH!!!)

Banshee · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 2:01 pm Post subject:

you guys are insane... no offense...

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FinalMoon · Cyborg Cannon **Joined**: 21 Apr 2003

A tick is a spider? Are you sure about that? I was thinking it was an insect, not an arachnid... I could be wrong tho.

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The DvD · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 4:55 pm Post subject:

it's a spider... well we'll stop talking about it now, banshee...maybe you're arachnophobic? LOL

Guest · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 4:55 pm Post subject:

FinalMoon wrote:

A tick is a spider? Are you sure about that? I was thinking it was an insect, not an arachnid... I could be wrong tho.

i think that you r right, a tick is not an arachnid

the unit name in french is "tank scarabé"

want a screenie lol ? here what my research give me on google

http://images.google.fr/images?hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=a+tick&sa=N&tab=wi&meta=

The DvD · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:01 pm Post subject:

it's in the family of spiders, here's the link:

http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/m1/mite.asp

Mike · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 6:45 pm Post subject:

i guess tick is both a spider and a scarab then and it is ment as scarab since that is the french name now cut it out this is pointless

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Banshee · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 8:28 pm Post subject:

I'm not arachnophobic, but I just think that you guys are going too far on that one...

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TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

uuhh guys your all wrong. My farther studied ticks for a few monthes. And i'll have you know a tick is a HUGE but verry small insect which bits the feck out of you and annoys you. Or is that flees?

Venom · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 7:37 pm Post subject:

allright to clear up this tick mess crap, a tick is a small eight legged creature, yes its an arachnid, it bits into a mammals skin and starts sucking your damn blood out, however what it does with the blood i'm not sure, as i've never let them do anything with it, i burn the damn little things as soon as i can.

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TerroR · General **Joined**: 25 Aug 2002 **Location**: UK

they survive on the blood. Just liek vampires.

SMIFFGIG · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 7:40 pm Post subject:

ok all posts from now on that arent related to the Tick tank or

Are to do with a bloody Tick insect, will be deleted Cool

----------NO MORE TICK INSECT DISCUSSION FROM THIS POINT-----------

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SMIFFGIG · Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:44 am Post subject:

Heres a really nice concept pic of the tick tank

it looks incredibly similar to the beta 3d model of the flame tank in C&C Renegade

(notice the dual turrets, these can be seen in other concept tick tank pics and in the cut scenes but the ingame version does not have them. Although TSR 1.2 does have them Very Happy

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Banshee · Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:04 am Post subject:

meh... that one is quite different from the one in the game #Tongue

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FinalMoon · Cyborg Cannon **Joined**: 21 Apr 2003

You can find more new TS concept art pics @ Tumsun, see the latest news post. www.tiberiumsun.com/index.shtml

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Guest · Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 4:34 pm Post subject:

yeah looks like a fusion of a mamouth tank and a "tick tank"

The DvD · Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:14 pm Post subject:

I think it looks just like the Tick tank in the renders and movies. The back should be that thick, it's supposed to be that way.

Muldrake · Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 9:41 pm Post subject:

With most of the "recent" pictures of the tick-tank, the second cannon is smaller, as in a machine gun. So will it have a machine gun in the mod? This would make it a very formidable defense unit, good against infantry and tanks.

PilotstroupF15E · Vehicle Drone **Joined**: 21 Sep 2003

So the little bloodsucker is double tracked eh? *looks closer at pic* Interesting...

Fremen5 · Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 10:14 pm Post subject:

I think the Tick Tank was a slightly lighter vesion of the Nod heavy tank, and that's the reason why they removed the heavy tank.

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The DvD · Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:11 am Post subject:

Yeah and NOD shouldn't have any heavy armour anyway.

SMIFFGIG · Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:29 am Post subject:

The original idea was that the Tic Tank/Mole tank
was actually a Light tank

However it seems they made it a medium equivilent by the time of release to counter the GDI Medium Mech Titan

I may significantly decrease its armour and health so its just marginally stronger than the Nod Light Tank, but make it just as strong as it is now when borrowed into the ground

This would allow the Heavy Tank to be the only medium mech counter part
what do u think ?

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Makes sense.

The DvD · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 3:51 pm Post subject:

Yes, the tick tank is really meant to be DEPLOYED as base/area defense. btw it should not be used by the AI in attacks, but it should be used as defense, along with SOME artillery (not loads)

Joe · Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 3:37 am Post subject:

i think the tick tank is the ugliest piece of **** on the face of the earth.

question to DvD, if your saying that the tick tank was meant to be a base defense, then what is nods basic offense tank

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SMIFFGIG · Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:21 am Post subject:

Quote:

if your saying that the tick tank was meant to be a base defense, then what is nods basic offense tank

Hence the reason for the Heavy Tank in TSR Wink

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The DvD · Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:04 pm Post subject:

And Nod isn't meant to be offensive that much, you know.

Mike · Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 3:35 pm Post subject:

Joe wrote:

if your saying that the tick tank was meant to be a base defense, then what is nods basic offense tank

attack cycle the name says it and it can do some damage especially good against harvies

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The DvD · Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:08 pm Post subject:

ARtillery with Stealth tanks and CC anyone? works like a charm... combined with some SAPC attacks.

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SMIFFGIG · Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:41 pm Post subject:

attack cycles have a different role in TSR
they are named Recon Bikes

and are mainly used for quick guierilla attacks (on harvesters etc) and reconasaince Wink

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Joe · Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:07 pm Post subject:

wasn't that the original use in TD?

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SMIFFGIG · Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:10 pm Post subject:

yes in TD they where *rightfully* called "Recon Bikes"

and in the TD Beta version they where called "Raptor Attack Cycles"

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Muldrake · Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:23 pm Post subject:

Also, in TD Nod "ordered" all their units, so they couldn't really get the heavy weapons, armour and power GDI had. They use other methods than armour and heavy weapons (mostly).. like stealth, speed and subterrean.. (which is suprising, as Nod being the "bad guys" not using brute force which is not common in a lot of games, and RA2 is an example of this.. but it depends as to whether you see the soviets as the "bad guys").

So will the Tick Tank have a secondary machine gun weapon?
As it does have two barrels, one slightly smaller, and looking at the pictures it looks like a machine, with the basic cannon?
Could enhance its defensive capabilities?