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ElitePrimary gets firepower bonus?
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mireazma
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject:  ElitePrimary gets firepower bonus? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's known that the firepower bonus doesn't count for each of veterancy level aquired. I still want to know whether this rule is fouled by the existance of the ElitePrimary with already bonus firepower. Or is the bonus coded only for default Primary at veteran and elite level?

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Team SomeGuy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It works for ElitePrimary, provided the EliteAbilities includes things like FIREPOWER. (The defined constant, not shouting at you)

As a general rule for avoiding potential issues however, it can be good practice to make all your Elite-level weapons more powerful than the original non-elite weapons.

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John Galt
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Veteran abilities carry over into Elite state. If you have FIREPOWER on either list, you get it in both stages. Same for any other ability.

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mireazma
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Crystal clear. Thank both of you.

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the1corrupted
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

A question on topic, if you have FIREPOWER in say, both lists, will it stack?

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djohe
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

No it does not stack (Ive checked imgame)(no Veterancy abilities stack in TS/RA2/RA2:YR)

Examples:
1. lets say the Weapon firepower bonus is set to 1.25 (+25%) near the top of Rules(md).ini
(NOTE on that line is that its not calculated the same way in Tiberian Sun)
and the Primary= weapon does 80 damage and ElitePrimary= weapon does 160
(Our warhead is set to 100% vs all types of armor)

now if we have:
Primary=OURWeapon
VeteranAbilities=FIREPOWER
EliteAbilities=FIREPOWER
and ElitePrimary=OUREliteWeapon

This unit will do this damage:
Normal: 80 damage
Veteran: 80+20 damage (100 damage)
Elite: 160+40 damage (200 damage)

If we have no elite weapon it will be like this:
Normal: 80 damage
Veteran: 80+20 damage (100 damage)
Elite: 80+20 damage (100 damage)

And for those who suck at math "25% out of 80 = 20" and "25% out of 160 is 40" #Tongue

Last edited by djohe on Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:39 pm; edited 1 time in total

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John Galt
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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MT
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Quote:
Elite: 80+20 damage (200 damage)

Question

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djohe
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oops, did alot of copy pasting there and missed that one, its corrected now (should have been 80+20 = 100 Laughing )

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