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Do you think closing several Spamming Games would improve the quality of PPM?
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Rico
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Anderwin wrote:
No post counts = People leave Neutral

To be frank if people are going to leave because of no post count then good riddence to them, this is a forum to talk about CnC, CnC modding etc, not see who can get the most posts. TBH I say remove post counts completly, but thats just me Smile

Good luck in finding someone Banshee, as long as they do a good job I dont care who it is Very Happy

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Javier
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

NOOOO!!!

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Daz
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Rico wrote:
Anderwin wrote:
No post counts = People leave Neutral

To be frank if people are going to leave because of no post count then good riddence to them, this is a forum to talk about CnC, CnC modding etc, not see who can get the most posts. TBH I say remove post counts completly, but thats just me Smile


Agreed, the ranks should go aswell.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ranks going aswell? Way too drastic IMO, the post count gone is enough.

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Von Kriplespac
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ranks need to go.

So does the word game.

However we could, if PHP can support it, bring in a arcade section maybe?

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Daz
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

MT wrote:
Ranks going aswell? Way too drastic IMO, the post count gone is enough.


What's the point of one going if the other doesn't? They both glorify post counts.

You only need the poster's name, avatar and join date (to give some idea of how experienced they are) in the left column.

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Rico
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

As Daz said, might as well get rid of the silly things, its just a name Rolling Eyes

Maybe make them customisable so people can put their own 'tag'. I've seen it in other forums and sofar haven't seen it cause problems. Just an idea anyway Razz

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Lt Albrecht
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

How about a "skill" section instead of rank, so people can set if they voxel/shp/ini code/AI?

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Daz
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That's certainly a better use for the space than a rank.

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MT
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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voxel/shp/ini code/AI?


And what if you could INI code, AI code, Voxel, and SHP? #Tongue

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Machine
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Or, give the ranks to people who are worthy of them. Dunno, something like giving you a rank after you have done something great (releasing a mod, posting tutorials, getting spotlights, etc).
Or, as already suggested, replace it with a descriptor of what you do.

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Dutchygamer
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Why not delete everything except the name then (including avatar and sig)Rolling Eyes
Argh, this is completely not what I meant, nor what I wanted. This is my third and final time I ask: can this thread be locked?

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Daz
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Machine wrote:
Or, give the ranks to people who are worthy of them. Dunno, something like giving you a rank after you have done something great (releasing a mod, posting tutorials, getting spotlights, etc).


What about wiping everyone's post count, bringing it back and then making only starting threads in the asset release/tutorial forums count?
Or a more refined version of that.

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Aro
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I Think people who are worthy of custom ranks is a good Idea.
Mine could be something like "Leader of Twisted Insurrection"

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CCHyper
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Not so much, ranks for people who have helped the site is much better, like Tiberium Sun had.

Ranks for just because you run a mod is the same as putting it in your signature.

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Aro
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah I suppose that's a good point.

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Crash
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Immature is the correct word, and I'm not really immature as far as I know of (Apart from the odd time).
I RARELY go off-topic and you know this...
I Don't spam ANYWHERE other than the crap forum which is what the crap forum is for.
I am NOT a hypocrite, simple as. DonutArnold is a Global Moderator and he still does the odd bit of spam, Team Black is a moderator and spams, even Banshee does it sometimes... EVERYONE does it.

Way-to-fail.

Cause it's the CRAP FORUM! I Just think you've got something against me, a lot of your points are not very valid.

I'm aware that everyone spams a tad from time to time, but again, some spams more than others. I think my points are valid because I have seen many low-quality posts and posts that prove me why you shouldn't a moderator. The crap forum isn't meant to be spammed in, it's just meant to contain all the spam that grows. Besides, it makes a bad impression to spam even in the crap forum, doesn't it?

No, I don't have anything against you personally. You know that after the last two years. I know I was too rough on this, and I'm sorry about that. Thanks for correcting me BTW. Smile

I think these would be good moderators:
Bittah Commander
Titan Mark II (altough inactive from time to time)
Machine

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You obviously didn't get what i meant.
What I was saying was that you shouldn't call out other forum members on how you think. Honestly Crashy, what if I started accusing you of random stuff that might only be half true? That's what you did to them. Let Banshee be the judge who looks at the reasons on why or why not they should be in a good candidate position.

I perfectly got what you meant, it was the other way around. I mean that you have to give your opinion and experiences of persons before they're made moderators. It's rough, yes, but it has to be done. Everyone should get their opinion said.

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You obviously took some time to get those 2 examples. You should have spent that little time finding one stronger example than those.
Gotta understand I just love debating plus being able to defend some people I view deserve the spot is a plus.

No, it took me less than half a minute, if you want better/more examples, find them yourself.

Again, sorry for being rough, you know that I'm actually a nice guy except for a few exceptions. Laughing

I like that the post count is gone; it may only reduce the spam. Smile

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Aro
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I'm aware that everyone spams a tad from time to time, but again, some spams more than others. I think my points are valid because I have seen many low-quality posts and posts that prove me why you shouldn't a moderator. The crap forum isn't meant to be spammed in, it's just meant to contain all the spam that grows. Besides, it makes a bad impression to spam even in the crap forum, doesn't it?


You're not making much sense here kiddo... Are you saying I Spam more than most people here? Cause if you are, I think that's total crap. Confused Everyone does the odd bit of spam, even you. The Crap forum is obviously there to Spam in because that's where spam goes! And unless you post something really stupid, pointless, offensive etc, then I See nothing wrong with spamming in the crap forum. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong after you've read the crap forum description.

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No, I don't have anything against you personally. You know that after the last two years. I know I was too rough on this, and I'm sorry about that. Thanks for correcting me BTW.


You wasn't really rough but you just went the completely wrong way about making a statement like the one you made the other day. By calling me a Hypocrite because of something I did ONE TIME when I was Intoxicated you're being unfair.

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Crash
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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You're not making much sense here kiddo... Are you saying I Spam more than most people here? Cause if you are, I think that's total crap. Everyone does the odd bit of spam, even you. The Crap forum is obviously there to Spam in because that's where spam goes! And unless you post something really stupid, pointless, offensive etc, then I See nothing wrong with spamming in the crap forum. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong after you've read the crap forum description.

I'm not saying you spam more than everyone else, I'm merely stating that you spam too much to be a moderator. Sure, the crap forum is a place to spam, but even spamming when allowed to do makes a bad impression in my opinion.

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You wasn't really rough but you just went the completely wrong way about making a statement like the one you made the other day. By calling me a Hypocrite because of something I did ONE TIME when I was Intoxicated you're being unfair.

I wasn't talking about that episode. I have seen you telling people to not post simple messages while you have done it yourself, and I have also seen you bumping quite old topics while you've told me to not bump quite fresh topics. It makes you a light hypocrite.

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Aro
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Crash wrote:
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You're not making much sense here kiddo... Are you saying I Spam more than most people here? Cause if you are, I think that's total crap. Everyone does the odd bit of spam, even you. The Crap forum is obviously there to Spam in because that's where spam goes! And unless you post something really stupid, pointless, offensive etc, then I See nothing wrong with spamming in the crap forum. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong after you've read the crap forum description.

I'm not saying you spam more than everyone else, I'm merely stating that you spam too much to be a moderator. Sure, the crap forum is a place to spam, but even spamming when allowed to do makes a bad impression in my opinion.


Tell me Crash, Why is Team Black a moderator?
No offense intended to Team Black in any way at all, but we all know what he's like with his team virus and what-not. Razz

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I wasn't talking about that episode. I have seen you telling people to not post simple messages while you have done it yourself, and I have also seen you bumping quite old topics while you've told me to not bump quite fresh topics. It makes you a light hypocrite.


I Disagree. Just cause of something you do when you first join or are not to familiar with how things role on particular forums and then learning that its wrong and tell other people not to do it so they don't get in trouble doesn't make you a Hypocrite.

Reason for edits: Edit of above post and spelling.

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DaFool
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

where did the trm spam come from? I know it's ham in a can, but how did the connection to it's internet use get created?

Anyways, not having avi's or sigs would be nice for school and work, but it would suppress expression.

As for a new mod, I think dutchy would be the best choice.

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Tore
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Crashking, I think Nods Viper qualifys as a moderator, even a global moderator! Everyone spams from time to time even you and I. I dont think a few low quality posts doesnt matter, infact I think its a pluss. It makes the users know that you arent just a "cold blooded" guy who just are there to lock topics and ban people.

Even moderators and adminstrators are alloed to say something like "OMGWTF I HAZ BIRTHDAY TODAY!!! :DDDDDDD!!" once in a while.

(Don't ask why I called Aro "Nods Viper", I'm in a nostalgic corner today! aka I have been browsing archive.org a little to much. #Tongue)

(Hope this made sence I was very tired when I posted this zzzz)

Edit: I think this topic has gone a bit off topic....

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I'm in a nostalgic corner today!


Yes! Good ol'Tumsun...

*searchs hard drive for the "montauk" mission*

As for the new moderator, it will ultimately be up to Banshee.
Has he even agreed to have a new moderator yet?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I propose these ranks:
"Can u maek me mod"
"Still looking for Rules.ini"
"House wive modder"
"Experienced modder"
"Supreme modder"

Alternative ranks depending on your skill:
"Voxeler"
"SHP´er"
"Voxel Master"
"SHP Hero"
"Animation God" (lol, LKO)
"AI Master"
"Coding God"
"Artwork God"
"Lil' Klepacki"
"The Terrible" Special custom rank for gufu... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I propose these ranks:
"Can u maek me mod"
"Still looking for Rules.ini"
"House wive modder"
"Experienced modder"
"Supreme modder"

Alternative ranks depending on your skill:
"Voxeler"
"SHP´er"
"Voxel Master"
"SHP Hero"
"Animation God" (lol, LKO)
"AI Master"
"Coding God"
"Artwork God"
"Lil' Klepacki"
"The Terrible" Special custom rank for gufu...

Awesome, ranks would be good. They should be rewarded to people who contribute things. Phobonaut, I like those. #Tongue

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partyzanPaulZy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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"Lil' Klepacki"

Well, I think vebfl4 and maybe Joshy (I was going through song forum) Laughing #Tongue should deserve some rank like this.
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"Artwork God"

Machine for example could get this rank (great models, anims, SHPs, VXLs).
Also people good as MadHQ, HolyMaster, MigEater or Raminator (maybe) can deserve this rank unless you don't want pantheon, then there would be only one, simply it depends, how many people can get certain rank. Rolling Eyes
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"Coding God"

Aro or Allied General, off-course.
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"Voxel Master"

Except those 2 musicians above all of the named are so skilled Voxel Master should have such skills like them in voxeling. Like Team Black (Chritmas ? #Tongue) or Daz (but he quit RA2 modding). From the new people here I would rank azri apoc for example.
There are many skilled people, so making of the rank list would be hard. Wink
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"The Terrible" Special custom rank for gufu... Very Happy

Laughing

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Machine
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Heh, thanks for the mention, but IMO LKO would deserve that rank more than me, as he has contributed a lot more to the community.

Also Aro "Coding God"?, I guess "Mapping God" would be better, but knowing Aro, I guess he would prefer something like "Better at Mapping than TB" Laughing.

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Tore
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If there is a "Coding God" here it must be Bittah Commander! He made DTA on his own! O_O

hmm, there is many candidates for that...

TSHyper
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Suiseiseki
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't think it's sensible to base ranks on the general opinion, you can be good at something without contributing a lot for any number of reasons (work on own mods instead of public assets etc.).

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It should be judged on what's been seen, not necessarily uploaded. If your assets are in a mod you get points or whatever for that.
Ideally it should be human-judged, mods or something having a "vote" over higher ranks or something.

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Titan
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Eh, I think it creates a certain amount of competition that is not needed, the bad kind of competition I mean, where people gloat at each others' ranks or claim they are better than others. Rolling Eyes

I know for one that the examples of people that should be awarded those childish titles you have provided are relatively new and although they have uploaded quite a bit of work recently, they haven't been doing it as long as many more people. Also, why are you people not counting in the modders eh? We have extremely talented and devoted people working on more than a dozen mods at PPM and those people are probably a lot better at what they're doing than those who make public assets, at least, that has been the general trend the last... what, 9 years? #Tongue

So I'm heavily against ranks of any kind. Btw:

Suiseiseki wrote:
I don't think it's sensible to base ranks on the general opinion, you can be good at something without contributing a lot for any number of reasons (work on own mods instead of public assetts etc.).


Agreed. Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, I agree with the basing on public assets thing, but just have that as an "occupation" that says what mod team you are part of or if you are "free"

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Tore wrote:
If there is a "Coding God" here it must be Bittah Commander! He made DTA on his own! O_O

Hyper made the hack to make 32-frame SHP rotation work though.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm glad post count is gone, I think ranks could be replaced with simply an honorable mention or even a warning level...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I'm glad post count is gone, I think ranks could be replaced with simply an honorable mention or even a warning level...

Yeah, I agree. Warning levels for spamming should be given out. Although I think they should go away over time, because people can improve.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ha, I suggested that before to Banshee, but he rejected it. You can always try again, maybe he's changed his mind on the topic Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't wanna babysit hundreds or thousands of people. That's what warning levels does. I have better things to do. #Tongue

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Also Aro "Coding God"?, I guess "Mapping God" would be better, but knowing Aro, I guess he would prefer something like "Better at Mapping than TB"


OH NO HE DIDN'!! #Cussing out
I Have you know I'm an excellent coder. #Tongue But thank you.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I know that Aro, but IMO, mapping is still your best area Wink.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Tore wrote:
If there is a "Coding God" here it must be Bittah Commander! He made DTA on his own! O_O

hmm, there is many candidates for that...

TSHyper
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ex coding god, he moved on to UT2004, so call him "Father of EXE hacks" or something like that.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I wouldn't go around saying coding god, mapping god, voxel god etc or anything. Just say if a member who has posted tutorials or lots of media etc, people who have been helpful towards the community should receive a basic set rank just mentioning or highlighting they have made a contribution.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

jack of all trades

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Lt Albrecht wrote:
Ex coding god, he moved on to UT2004, so call him "Father of EXE hacks" or something like that.


He did? I hear he still looks at the westwood codes now and again for a quick laugh. Razz

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