The Army doesn't have rocket Hummvee's. They have Avenger's, but since this in the future I don't see why not. _________________ Okay, my signature was starting to annoy even me. Last edited by Scorched Earth on Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:44 am; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
The U.S. Army doesn't attach TOW's or anything like that to their Hummvee's. (I know from experience!) I do know that the Avenger Hummvee does in fact have a LMG (Light Machine Gun.) in the turret. You aren't supposed to use the Avenger on anything but air craft, so they added the forward gun to take down light vehicles and infantry. _________________ Okay, my signature was starting to annoy even me. QUICK_EDIT
Sigh... Does it really have to matter if the mod uses Mechs/Humvees, or Machine's "Hov-vee" or not? I think that if it can fit into the mod some how, then it should be allowed with exception... Remember people, this unit is basically the alternate of the Hov-Vee unit that Aro and his team are working on for when the hover tech can not be used in the stormy regions of the Earth in TI... So let's stop arguing if the unit can or can not use missiles and what not, this is TI, not REAL LIFE. QUICK_EDIT
Exactly. I'm just trying to explain the real situation. But the mod IS in fact set in the future, so I don't see why not use a "Hov-vee." _________________ Okay, my signature was starting to annoy even me. QUICK_EDIT
The U.S. Army doesn't attach TOW's or anything like that to their Hummvee's. (I know from experience!) I do know that the Avenger Hummvee does in fact have a LMG (Light Machine Gun.) in the turret. You aren't supposed to use the Avenger on anything but air craft, so they added the forward gun to take down light vehicles and infantry.
Whats this then?
AFAIK The US military has put TOW's on HMMWV's since the 80'tees
(requesting splitt of the "modern day" HMMWV ("Hum-Vee") discussion.) _________________ QUICK_EDIT
In the other thread the Hummvee looked like an Avenger. Attaching TOW's to the turret is just crazy. (Which is why I said they don't ATTACH TOWs to their Hummvee's. Sure they have Hummvee's with TOW launchers, but they on't ATTACH them to different Hummvee's.) _________________ Okay, my signature was starting to annoy even me. QUICK_EDIT
I just realized that... I need to pay more attention where topics are posted. _________________ Okay, my signature was starting to annoy even me. QUICK_EDIT
There's only one way to stop this 'debate' forever, where's Dats when you need him? _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:27 am Post subject:
Lt Albrecht wrote:
There's only one way to stop this 'debate' forever, where's Dats when you need him?
Banned, I think.
Lets see. Humvees Can have pretty much whatever the hell you want to put on them. Most of them have a turret with a .50 call on them, however you can mount TOW missiles. Stingers, no, as they're handheld as far as I know. (Could be wrong, I'm not in a stinger unit). The Avenger, yes, is an Anti-Air unit, however it's based on the Humvee's chassis. _________________ "Reality is a lovely place, but I wouldn't want to live there." -Adam Young QUICK_EDIT
They don't use Stingers anymore. (My dad was in what I believe was the 23rd ADA Battallion in the 1st Infantry Division, stationed in Germany. We're now at Fort Bliss which is mainly used for ADA training, but they're moving all those guys out and sending them to I believe Fort Sill, and they're bringing the armored division there and moving them here.) That's how I pretty much know that they don't use them anymore. I don't know what they use now, I've just been around this kind of stuff for a while. _________________ Okay, my signature was starting to annoy even me. QUICK_EDIT
They still have stinger teams, they used to mount them in special bradleys with stingers instead of TOWs but now they just have them sitting in the back with their rocket launchers, getting chucked about and hoping they won't be sick when they get pushed out to shoot down 3rd world aircraft. _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
I thought the 'Mericans sold all their Stingers to the Muddhaheddin and Al Quada... (Oh, the irony).
I hope people learn lessons out of this. Never sell, give weapons to people that are more fanatic and radical then your own enemies.
The enemy of your enemy isn´t always a friend... QUICK_EDIT
Europe, however, is your friend america, just get the radcal idiots to loose the "we're better than you" vibe, most of you are relatives of ours in some way (emigration FTW) _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
whast the difference between an avenger, and a humvee with a missile launcher on it? _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
Europe, however, is your friend america, just get the radcal idiots to loose the "we're better than you" vibe, most of you are relatives of ours in some way (emigration FTW)
Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Location: Star Kingdom of Manticore
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject:
At DaFool: Nothing. At all. Other than the mount. _________________ "Reality is a lovely place, but I wouldn't want to live there." -Adam Young QUICK_EDIT
whast the difference between an avenger, and a humvee with a missile launcher on it?
In reality, the Avenger's missile launchers are for use against low flying aircraft. (It is a Cold War design intended to fight off Russian MiGs)
The Humvee with the TOW is intended as a lightweight anti-armor/building support. (Not its original intended role)
Some modifications to the Avenger in Iraq have mounted a vehicular version of the Javelin (or M2 Browning .50 cals) to add more support actions. Especially since, Al Qaeda is like the GLA without either tanks or aircraft of any kind.
In terms of game design, it becomes a problem. Both if built like realistic versions can become highly redundant of each other. QUICK_EDIT
I know a little, but I'm not actually in the military. (Yet.) I've sent in my application for the Air Force Academy a little while ago...
AntiHero would definately know much more than I do. (But I know for a fact my dad's old battallion doesn't use Stingers anymore! I'm not sure about the rest of the Army, but why do that to only on small portion of the Army?) _________________ Okay, my signature was starting to annoy even me. QUICK_EDIT
I know a little, but I'm not actually in the military. (Yet.) I've sent in my application for the Air Force Academy a little while ago...
AntiHero would definately know much more than I do. (But I know for a fact my dad's old battallion doesn't use Stingers anymore! I'm not sure about the rest of the Army, but why do that to only on small portion of the Army?)
Uses up less ammunition within a area I think, not really sure. I'm sure they carry a few around somewhere, however thats the first I've heard of battalions not using stingers...? _________________ ... QUICK_EDIT
I'm sure you won't enjoy firing Stingers out of Humvee windows, would you? No wait, Von will. I forgot, my bad.
I don't think a Stinger has a hardpoint for mounting on a Humvee. That's what Avengers are for. They are 2 different vehicles but the Avenger uses the Humvee's chassis. I think they had fun removing the back _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
With a Hummvee, I woudn't be surprised if they made a model with jet engines... _________________ Okay, my signature was starting to annoy even me. QUICK_EDIT
Antihero, I said I'd always call you Dats and I bloody well will
Manchester _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
MT, that was a joke... (But if it had a jet engine under the hood, well that would be somewhat understandable.) _________________ Okay, my signature was starting to annoy even me. QUICK_EDIT
What next, supersonic humvees that can kill tanks, infantry, planes, cars, buses, motorcycles, bicycles, bombers, helicopters, tricycles, monocycles, motorboats while being invulnerable to all enemy fire? _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
I told him after he changed to antihero I'd always know him as DaTS and unless it REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY annoys him I'm going to call him it. _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
I call him daTS, IIRC his D wasn't capitalized when I first saw him.
Anyone with humvee experience? Perhaps maybe you could tell us maybe it isn't cramped inside and you can't fire out of the rear window. _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
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Aro, if this is not TI related, care to move it to offtopic or crap?
