Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:59 am Post subject:
Xbox360 vs PS3...agian
Subject description: starting with GTA 4 no fence sitters, you have to chose.
Who do you support and why, Also I started this topic coz I just got my PS3, in a few days I will hopefully have GTA4.
However It seems that Microsoft has baught exlusive DLC for the 360, and from what ive seen... Its two epesiodes which means just a few new missions or a whole new island. Some say its even San Andreas.
Also they said the PS3 will get DLC, might be the same as 360 but alot later on since they never mentioned if it was time exlusivity. MS did pay 50 mil for it tho.
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360 simply because of Gears of War. Its the only reason I bought a 360 a year and half ago, even though I'd never played it before. Luckily, it kept my attention for a year and now Gears 2 is out.
Really Ive never been that interested in console games. The majority of them seem to be crap and usually I just buy games from certain series I follow. Even with PC, most games I dont enjoy... just ones I already know I keep coming back to. QUICK_EDIT
I see no difference between the PS3 and the Xbox 360 graphics, I haven't played anything on a PS3 only watched someone play on it. I have played on a Xbox 360 a little Gears of War and Halo 3 there is some interesting games for both; for the PS3 there is Metal Gear Solid 4, for the 360 there is Halo Wars and Endwar I don't know whose "the best" but the 360 is cheaper so if I want to get one of them it will be the Xbox 360. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:23 pm Post subject:
I have a 360 and I prefer it immensely to the PS3. Itm may have those Gears of Tripe games but it makes up for it with its better approach to the online world. It also tends to get games released a lot more quickly. Admittedly, I bought Bioshock on PC but it came out on the 360 about 18 months before PS3, a similar situation happened with Rock Band.
The only exclusive game the PS3 has that's worth buying is Little Big Planet. That's it.
The PS3 is more expensive, is supporting a disc format that will only catch on in 5-10 years (and even if it does, streaming/downloading via the internet will be a bigger trend) and it doesn't scream good design practice is they admit that one of the eight cores will fail quite quickly.
Plus the Xbox has Forza, which is a fantastic racing game. The PS3 can't even get one Gran Turismo title out (which is quite inferior, by the way) for the fanbois to play, unfortunately my housemate is one of them. _________________
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The only exclusive game the PS3 has that's worth buying is Little Big Planet.
You've never seen resistance fall of man. Either that or you have deluded me by appearing to be falsely intelligent.
And My friend has an original UK release PS3, no problems WHATSOEVER, great mackhine FREE ONLINE PLAY, comes with all the crap you'd have to pay for for a 360 (Check the prices, to meet the same standards as an internet connected 60gb version you'd need to fork out for a load of upgrades, AND xbox live). Another friend of mine has a 360, the power adapter is MASSIVE, and when both were brought to my house and connected to TVs of equal size/res etc guess what we ended up playing on?
The PS3. Resistace is epic for friendly games, especially with unlimited ammo so you can use rifle grenades, rockets etc more.
If you have to get one get a PS3, if not use the money for a better PC!!! _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject:
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You've never seen resistance fall of man. Either that or you have deluded me by appearing to be falsely intelligent.
I've seen bits of it, it strikes me as the PS3's equivalent to Halo. Not the best game out there but the only vaguely decent launch title they had. Halo was a very standard shooter with a good plot
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And My friend has an original UK release PS3, no problems WHATSOEVER, great mackhine FREE ONLINE PLAY, comes with all the crap you'd have to pay for for a 360 (Check the prices, to meet the same standards as an internet connected 60gb version you'd need to fork out for a load of upgrades, AND xbox live).
My friend's PS3 has a 40GB hard drive and didn't come with all the HDMI cables when he got it and it was £250. He also doesn't get backwards compatibility with PS2 games because of the model he bought whereas every Xbox game I have (with the exception of two) all work fine for me. My 360 Elite was £270 with two games, then £35 for Xbox Live on top of that is £305. With Xbox Live, if you're not planning to actually play online games but use the achievements system and download stuff then you don't need to actually fork out for the Gold membership. I don't know what upgrades you're on about, I didn't need to buy anything extra to connect to the internet with the exception of a £3 ethernet cable. And my Xbox has a 120GB hard drive, not 60. _________________
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Resistance? Generic? Gears of war has some originality, I know there's a gun that's a chainsaw and a few other things.
Resistance has a gun that gets more powerful as it shoots through walls, a rocket launcher which can stop rockets in midair, a gun whose bullets bounce round corners, a sniper rifle which can be used to slow down time in singleplayer/co-op, a homing rifle that manages to be more than just a halo needler rip-off and many more. The enemies are more original too, I've talked to some gears of war players, a few have grievences over how these alien swarm thingies look like recoloured people. Have you seen the enmies in Resistance? No, you've labelled it as generic because you can't play it on 360. _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject:
Von Kriplespac wrote:
Screw both, PC please.
Agreed.
The 360 and PS3 offer nothing that I could not get a better equivalent experience for on the PC. (that is, from the FPS and RTS genres)
With that said, of the consoles, the Wii is my choice despite the shit they are pushing on the system, there are a few solid titles, mainly RE4, Brawl, MP3. _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
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I liked the original xbox alot, and one of my favorites things about consoles is split screen, where you can actuallly play with people at your house, something you can't really do with your PC. But, the original xbox has become obsolete, so I am left with 4 choices: 360, Wii, PS3, and PC. I choose the PC. Wii looks more like a novelty than an actual gaming system, and looks alot mor egeared to little kids (thats how nitendo does it, hook 'em while their young, ctreate fanboys for life). PS3 was not only the most expensive of the bunch, but it wouldn't be able to support my old xbox games, and any of the new xbox games to come (Halo3, and all the ones you guys already mentioned). And finally, the ps3 has a tiny excuse for a controller. Now the 360, it failed alot and failed hard when it came out. It was expensive, almost double what the xbox was when it was released, and when it came out, the hard drive was n't included (one of the reasons I loved the xbox). The games weren't out back then but they are now. The PC was the way to go; free internet (off my parents), I could play all my old PC games, I could MOD, ic ould use it for school, I could browse the internet, and now games are generally cheaper for the PC. _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
The PC is the way to go, personally I've never felt much attraction to the Xbox, microsoft makes windows, it should keep doing tht and stop trying to dominate everything else. Vista probably sucked because bill was distracted by the 360. _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject:
Lt Albrecht wrote:
The PC is the way to go, personally I've never felt much attraction to the Xbox, microsoft makes windows, it should keep doing tht and stop trying to dominate everything else. Vista probably sucked because bill was distracted by the 360.
The Xbox and Vista were made by two separate departments in Microsoft, one doesn't have a bearing on the other in the slightest. Vista was crap because it was crap, they tried to advance their status with improved security and graphics and failed. Now that Linux is making headway into areas like netbooks and phones, Microsoft has to actually compete otherwise fall to the sidelines, like IE before Firefox became popular.
At the end of it, the Xbox is the only thing Microsoft have done truly well. They targeted the right people in the market, made online gaming a standard (I know the Dreamcast did it first but let's face it, they didn't really do it as well as they could have) and they're still going strong. I never thought I'd get a console in this generation (I thought the Wii and PS3 were terrible and didn't have much interest in the 360 either) but in the end it dawned on me that the 360 was worthwhile firstly because it actually has some good games and secondly because it makes for a very good media centre. I have lots of my DVDs ripped to my hard drive so I can stream them across to the 360 and the ones I don't I can just watch normally. I know the PS3 can do this too but it'll never do it at a good, cost-effective price (unless you think a blu-ray player is actually worth it). _________________
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None of them - I rather play on my PC. I also have a PSP (whose screen got shattered the other day, I need to buy a new screen for 50$ (bummer, I'm glad it wasn't that expensive (a new PSP would be cheaper than sending it in for repair))) that I like to play on, I like it a lot - I got custom firmware on it, meaning I can run ISOs off the memory stick (I don't have to say what that means, do I? ), play PSX games and mod it in lots of ways ...
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:26 pm Post subject:
Iron Cathedral wrote:
Lt Albrecht wrote:
No, you've labelled it as generic because you can't play it on 360.
No I labelled it as generic because its just another FPS. And also the Gears universe sounds a lot more credible.
Gears of War is terrible. I really don't know how anyone can stand up for it. If you like brown then fair enough but you could just play Quake instead and get the same experience. _________________
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So human colonisation of a planet hat happens to be:
1) Blessed with the perfect atmosphere
2) In the correct temperature range
3) Already inhabited by a race of creatures roughly the same shape and anatomical layout as a humans, whose society is basically an anthive.
4) Looking like the sahara.
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5) How come they still use actual bullets? If there's a bigass missile-zapping laser now, within the time it takes to develop space travel good enough to allow all that colonisation shiz what are the odds of someone will invent a smaller one?
6) How come thise things have deleloped firearms despite being hiveminds with no use for internal conflict????
7) Giving PRISONERS from a JAIL FIREARMS?? Even in WWII when the gates of berlin were blated off their hinges the nazis didn't resort to THAT. And if all the soldiers were wiped out who trained the prisoners?
This is more feasible than Resistance? In resistance the SP campaign is won when you destroy the control rods of a nuclear reactor. And how the hell does marco and co. survive hails of gunfire? Hale does it because he has the chimeran virus, which increases the metabolism of any host by 10x, leading to rapid healing and moving, increased core temperature and an unnatural quickness to movements. Hale is special, he has the virus but has not gone into a coma and escaped the processing facility where others with the virus who are comatose are sealed into crysalis' whilst they change.
It is not generic, you don't have 6 different machineguns, there's no C4. The enemies are not terrorists, russians or Nazis. The guns don't just shoot, each one has something special, the bullseye can shoot a tag so the bullets are pulled towards the target when you fire normally (if you hit with the tag), but you can only carry 6 tags, preventing H1 style needler abuse. The sniper slows time, but only in SP, there's a flamethrower which can shoot o blob of lingering fire, the "splitter" is like no other weapon. You shoot anbd hold the trigger, then press L1 to "split" the rounds floating in front of you, you face a choice: 3 Powerful shots or a veritable wall of smaller ones. Even the rocket launcher isn't just a rocket launcher. The rocket can be stopped or slowed midair, if you hit L1 it shoots out submunitions, wasting the rocket but hitting evey enemy within submunition range.
Gears is actually quite generic, the "bump reloading" idea is good, the chainsaw gun is basically a bayonet though... _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
Although i do own both a PS3 and a Xbox360, I personally prefer the PS3 as it does have alot of things the 360 dont have as standard which really does make up for the extra cash you pay for it. And yes Resistance is a unique FPS, like Lt Albrecht said it has many unique features. IMO Resistance and Resistance 2 are awesome games ive finished them and still playing now, theyre games which should definately be played.
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1) Blessed with the perfect atmosphere
2) In the correct temperature range
3) Already inhabited by a race of creatures roughly the same shape and anatomical layout as a humans, whose society is basically an anthive.
If theres the planet Earth theres likely another planet similar. And again... if there are Humans theres likely to be something, somewhere evolved in a similar way.
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4) Looking like the sahara.
Dunno how it looks like the Sahara.
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5) How come they still use actual bullets? If there's a bigass missile-zapping laser now, within the time it takes to develop space travel good enough to allow all that colonisation shiz what are the odds of someone will invent a smaller one?
TD did it and worked well. Lasers and zapping weapons are not cool... They dont lend themselves to a dirty gorey world, theyre very clean.
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6) How come thise things have deleloped firearms despite being hiveminds with no use for internal conflict????
Theyre not hiveminds and they do suffer a civil war.
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7) Giving PRISONERS from a JAIL FIREARMS?? Even in WWII when the gates of berlin were blated off their hinges the nazis didn't resort to THAT. And if all the soldiers were wiped out who trained the prisoners?
Erm... theyre not ordinary prisoners. For one, Fenix was a soldier who was put in jail for ignoring orders. They dont just grab prisoners and give em guns.
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Hale does it because he has the chimeran virus, which increases the metabolism of any host by 10x, leading to rapid healing and moving, increased core temperature and an unnatural quickness to movements. Hale is special, he has the virus but has not gone into a coma and escaped the processing facility where others with the virus who are comatose are sealed into crysalis' whilst they change.
Yeah that sounds really feasible and unique.
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It is not generic, you don't have 6 different machineguns, there's no C4. The enemies are not terrorists, russians or Nazis. The guns don't just shoot, each one has something special, the bullseye can shoot a tag so the bullets are pulled towards the target when you fire normally (if you hit with the tag), but you can only carry 6 tags, preventing H1 style needler abuse. The sniper slows time, but only in SP, there's a flamethrower which can shoot o blob of lingering fire, the "splitter" is like no other weapon. You shoot anbd hold the trigger, then press L1 to "split" the rounds floating in front of you, you face a choice: 3 Powerful shots or a veritable wall of smaller ones. Even the rocket launcher isn't just a rocket launcher. The rocket can be stopped or slowed midair, if you hit L1 it shoots out submunitions, wasting the rocket but hitting evey enemy within submunition range.
Doesnt sound like something I'd like.
Lt Albrecht wrote:
Gears is actually quite generic, the "bump reloading" idea is good, the chainsaw gun is basically a bayonet though...
Show me another 3rd person action/shooter with a cover system, superb gore, great art style so many tactical opportunities (Which came before Gears).
Its also called the "Chainsaw bayonet". No-one claims otherwise. QUICK_EDIT
Gears is good I'll admit, but resistance is good, they're a different type of "good" I suppose.
Resistance says "Here's a cool idea, don't worry about the exact details and get shooting, by the way you'll need more than that to kill them, here, have air-fuel grenades!"
Gears says "Here's a kickass war, here's how it happened, run with it! Kill that sucker with the chainsaw" _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
Doom: Kill. Here's a shotgun, now kill. Here's a chainsaw, now kill. There's a new monster over there, kill it. Game's don't need story to make them fun, they need gameplay. The greatest game of all time basically handed you a gun, and told you to get through it. _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
Gez I started a freakin war here....just my plan, buhahahaha.
However I did ask to chose between the 360 and the PS3, never mentioned the PC. Obviously the PC will win, even I'll take a PC.
But i did buy a PS3, just wanted to play games without a big fus with firends. Motorstorm 2 pacific rift has four player split screen. But right now Im waiting for GTA 4, I can feel it in my fingers.
Also I never saw resistance on the day I bought the PS3...bought Quake wars (gonna sell it second hand).
But there is one thing that can beat a PC, PS3, Xbox360, a Aston martin and probably even a Bugatti Veyron...and almost all other things. QUICK_EDIT
Looks like nothing has changed since I left. And since no one else will actually help him I'll try.
I've got both systems and am not a fanboy of either, but I highly recommend the ps3.
- The argument that the ps3 costs more is ridiculous because what the ps3 has integrated makes it near the same price if you were to get the same for a 360.
-Saying that blue-ray will not catch on in 5 to ten years, although false is still better than having HD which already died.
-The internet access is free on ps3, which although 360 fanboys argue doesn't matter when its $50 a year............... ITS FREE ON PS3.
-I hear the ps3 does not have as good of downloadable content, but it is getting there and will soon be as good as 360's.
-Games do take longer to come out for the ps3 but patience is a virtue and and I hate impatient people. And then the games usually get extras anyways.
-I feel that the ps3 has better exclusives compared to the 360. But that is just my opinion.
-360s break down much quicker. That's fact. I have owned the same ps3 since the day they came out and it works perfectly fine. I have never even heard from anyone that owns a ps3 about it screwing up. On the other hand I had my 360 for about a week and it broke (thank god for the warranty). And just about everyone I know who has had a 360 has had it break on them, sometimes more than once.
-From the games I've played on both consoles, the ps3 has shorter loading times.
I am not a ps fanboy because if this were the argument of ps2 or xbox I would side with xbox without a doubt. But i honestly believe that the ps3 is more worth it. QUICK_EDIT
No, you've labelled it as generic because you can't play it on 360.
No I labelled it as generic because its just another FPS. And also the Gears universe sounds a lot more credible.
Gears of War is terrible. I really don't know how anyone can stand up for it. If you like brown then fair enough but you could just play Quake instead and get the same experience.
You're the only other person in the world who has the same opinion as me on Gears of War. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:37 pm Post subject:
^you arent the only ones ^
if i had to get one i would get a PS3 rather than an xbox 360, the graphics are rubbish (when you compare them to a PS3 or PC(not allways),the games are rubbish(or are on the PS3,Wii or PC),you have to pay for online play (thats why i stick to playing the pc) and there are more d***heads like the people who clamed to be youre friends for the last 8-10 years (there may be more cheaters on PCs but thay are better people and i have more respect for the n00b that was slagging me when i was playing RA2 online than the xbox players) _________________ Creator of TS:BoB and some other things that might be good when finnished. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:00 pm Post subject:
Aro wrote:
Clazzy wrote:
Iron Cathedral wrote:
Lt Albrecht wrote:
No, you've labelled it as generic because you can't play it on 360.
No I labelled it as generic because its just another FPS. And also the Gears universe sounds a lot more credible.
Gears of War is terrible. I really don't know how anyone can stand up for it. If you like brown then fair enough but you could just play Quake instead and get the same experience.
You're the only other person in the world who has the same opinion as me on Gears of War.
Well, you have differing art-styles...A lot of games go unrealistically bland in the coloration IE some areas of CoD4 (from what I have seen) and GoW, while you got games that go unrealistically colorful, like RA3. I don't really care for unrealistically bland coloration.
Personally, I don't find GoW to be anything special, and do not plan to purchase a PC version. The FPS genre games should try to innovate GAMEPLAY, but it seems that the genre has become more of a platform to show off fancy graphics.
Seriously, besides the addition of missions, not a lot has changed since Quake I in terms of gameplay. And you could easily add missions to Quake I, and half of the other innovations can be found in the earliest of Quake mods. -_- _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
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And the main character in halo has the same stats as the main type of enemy. Also, the enemies in halo are brightly colored and they have purple stuff. _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject:
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On that subject, I haven't seen a survival shooter in years. Here's hoping for Dead Space.
Good, but not great. If you've played Doom 3 then imagine that in third person with no HUD, better weapons, upgrade system, with the creatures from the Thing and with a curb stomp feature. It's only 9 hours or so long but it actually starts getting boring towards the end. Worth a play, though. _________________
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GTA4 is not the game to decide which console to get. Pick a console which has the most games you would want to play offline (and/or online) or save up for a new computer.
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Playstastion 3 good better GFX on GTA IV then a Xbox 360
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject:
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And the main character in halo has the same stats as the main type of enemy.
But it works, thanks to the weapons & vehicles; classed based gameplay or THIS, would be awesome, I agree:
- 24 players
- Covenant vs. UNSC
- UNSC, 10 players, 5 can spawn as marines (AR & Magnums, no shields), 3 as ODST (BR & SMG, half shields), 2 as Spartans/Elites (BR & AR).
- Covenant, 14 players, 7 can spawn as Grunts (Plasma Pistol & PR, no shields), 3 as Jackals (Carbines & Plasma Pistols, o shields), 4 as Brutes (spiker, Plasma Pistol, new armour system, like a stronger shield that doesn't recharge)
Its an easy to learn but hard to master FPS game, with a decent physics system. It is what it is, and I like it as it is. It definitely could be better (like shooting limbs off, craters, bigger melee system, better beat down graphics, AI), but its pretty good.
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The PS3 is better, especially its free online service; I'd like to give a big phuck you to LIVE. I know where you live.
The PS3 is better built, physically, so good job Sony; you Microsoft, you greedy bastards, you shouldn't have rushed your project. Shame on you!
On the topic of Microsoft not quite being cool, lets talk about Avatars on this New Xbox Experience... gay. Thats the perfect word to describe it. Its just a rip off of the Wii Mii, which is also kinda, pale. I just wanna play games, so it doesn't really appeal to me.
Now Microsoft, you have done one thing right - you've backed off with the Games for Windows LIVE charge, THANK your lord- no whatamIsaying- SHAME on your lord for tryin' to screw around, you screw around you get hurt, sometimes. We know you like green, but its a bad habbit, son, and it has to be put down! Do as I SAY, not as I DO, HOW many times do I have to say it. _________________ Destroy to create. All for the hunt to dominate!
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Xbox360 vs PS3...agian
Luckily, it kept my attention for a year and now Gears 2 is out.
) and PS1 (TD and RA on a console FTW)
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