If Isgeen's pet get's in there I want MV in there. Which is why I always lurk in the threads that discuss canon to see where I should put Kane. How about putting Seth in a terrorist group? I mean he looks the type and it'd suit Nod's rigorous policy on "Personnel" Only the most dangerous, lethal and two faced scum wanted, those with morals need not apply.
Yeah, Kane is either like the supposed "Grand master" of the illuminati or some sort of alien. Alien would make some sense. Perhaps he was an ambassador of the scrin gone awry, what better way to get a planet on your side than to be its god? Maybe Jesus' message didn't fit so Kane left him to swing and started the brotherhood to fight his old masters? Far fatched? Probably _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject:
I don't understand why you would think just because Kane's in RA that by RA2 he's just phased out. Maybe he got Yuri to defect, maybe he set the gears in motion to make Japan break away in RA3. I mean, if he is only shown once in RA, and it's taken that he masterminded the whole thing, then why couldn't he control it without having to even be seen?
Also, as for the immortality thing, I thought of something. The original RA is set in like 1939, and the newest Tiberium game is set in like 2048. That's a span of like 109 years, in which time Kane ages none! And, even if you don't count RA as part of the true Tiberium line, C&C is set in 1999, and C&C3 is set in 2048. That's still 49 years apart! He still doesn't age there either. I mean, come on. We know that's the same Kane. No doubt, because he looks the same, holds the same knowledge, and even references past victories and defeats. QUICK_EDIT
You sir are an idiot
RA->TD->TS->TI
Is there LolAlert 2 or 3 in there? No, they don't count as they deviated from the original C&C storyline (Someone show him the ra95 readme quote).
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*Nod, having discovered the potential of the human mind, trained some of its personnel, including a man we know as Yuri, into psychic warfare.
One day, a team of Nod psi-troopers somehow managed to get into the locked vaults of Area 51, discovering much of the abandoned technology, i.e. Chronosphere, Tesla Coils, etc. Due to an unfortunate accident, the Chronosphere activated, creating a time portal that threw Yuri (dunno if that was his original name anyway) into the 70s, creating a second timeline; the Red Alert 2 timeline.
Yeah, basically they're the trash that got thrown out of the proper C&C's REALITY _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
Then lets get a Chronosphere, go back in time and remove whoever decided to dissolve Westwood, come back to this time and find Westwood is the Epic Games of 2009! QUICK_EDIT
Nah, if we dd that D's mind would have melted from the stupid and we'd still be whinging, but at a bunch of lazy jackasses not a huge multinational that'll only give a shit if it were "financially viable". Ideally they would have had to have combined with another games studio, aother small one with skilled but unrecognised programmers/artists. THEN we'd have epic C&C, but only then. _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
If Isgeen's pet get's in there I want MV in there. Which is why I always lurk in the threads that discuss canon to see where I should put Kane.
You want to move there? I'm sorry to inform you that boat has long sailed... Adam Isgreen left Petroglyph and no longer visits those forums (mainly the reason why I no longer visit really)...
Lt Albrecht wrote:
Yeah, Kane is either like the supposed "Grand master" of the illuminati or some sort of alien. Alien would make some sense. Perhaps he was an ambassador of the scrin gone awry, what better way to get a planet on your side than to be its god?
Well, it was confirmed that Kane definitely is human...
The reason I believe Nod is based on the Illuminati (meaning Nod and the Illuminati share similarities, but the Illuminati don't actually exist in C&C) is because Nod moves in the shadows -just like the Illuminati-, Nod has secretly had a hand in many historical events and conflicts -just like the Illuminati-, Nod, Nod is striving for a one world order (a single government ruling over the entire planet) -just like the Illuminati- and Nod's symbol is pyramid shaped -just like the Illuminati's-. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Haha, nah. I meant I want a place in C&C canon. That is my final dream As if it'll ever happen XD
Ok, so Kane is human and has no chronosphere. I claim cloning. IF the 1st Tib war ended 35ish years before TS that's a reasonable clone Gestation period. _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
Why do you keep guessing? There's enough information for dozens of post-FS sequels. Kane does his trick and that's it. Much of it isn't even supposed to be known _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Part of the fun is finding out and eventually knowing.
Rather than outright clones, perhaps he could just clone parts of his body and replace himself over time. Or do some kind of maintenance. But then again, if Nod has access to cloning tech, why isn't there a clone army?
Maybe Kane eats healthy, works out, uses sun tan lotion, and takes his vitamins? _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
Kane disappears in a surprisingly einstein-esque fashion in the TS not Ending with the tib missile launch _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
lol. I think its the refusal to grow hair as well. All that extra energy and materials used to grow it are reverted to life processes. And he avoids McDonald's.
I think what happened at the very end of firestorm can be taken from a different perspective.
CABAL means Computer Assisted Biologically Augmented Life Form. The Vats at the end of Firestorm were probably the human minds that had been synced together to form CABAL. CABAL, thinking he could gain Kane power, synced him with his own mind. But Kane power was too much for CABAL and Kane's mind was able to overcome the computer and merge with it. Kane lives in cyberdeath. _________________ You come for the modding but you stay for the Crap Forum. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject:
DaFool, hahaha. That's great. He's like those people that live to 125...
Seriously, though. Kane is the only Kane that could possess his same memories. Whether he clones parts of himself and replaces them, or he's 'magical', or he merged with CABAL, or even if he's just plain immortal never to be killed, he has still got to be the same Kane. QUICK_EDIT
CABAL means Computer Assisted Biologically Augmented Life Form.
No it doesn't; EA changed it in Renegade... The original meaning of CABAL is Computer Assisted Bio-organic Artificial Life-form (Source).
Anyway, now we're on the subject of CABAL anyway, the following posts are quoted from the same topic:
Adam Isgreen wrote:
CABAL's future:
Yep, we had plans for him. Without going into any real detail, eventually, he'd re-emerge with a cyborg / machine faction that had its desires set on conquering not just humanity... but the Scrin as well. The creation of CABAL via the Tacitus information and Kane's mind made for a very power-hungry and ruthless entity that sought control above all else.
Adam Isgreen wrote:
Kane built CABAL and incorporated pieces of his psyche into the machine while constructing its personality. Ever see the film "Saturn 5"? The robot learned its obsessions and murderous tendencies from the "teacher" it was connected to -- a similar thing happened here. CABAL is an extension of Kane's mind so that Kane would have a completely obedient and cunning ally. Unfortunately, the data from the Tacitus gave CABAL some other desires that allowed him to bend Kane's will and desires....
FWIW, there were 5 eventual factions planned when we were talking about C&C3 it back at WW: GDI, Nod, Scrin (first release), Forgotten (expansion 1), CABAL (expansion 2).
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:40 am Post subject:
ReGenesis
I think Kane is a clone...
because there are multiple sources to support my theory (anime, live action, other games) of taking one's mind an digitally copying it into newer bodies...
-since RA1 had clones:
the explanation of there not being a clone army is possibly that the scientists who developed it died during a GDI attack on the Nod lab( after Kane's "upgrade" ) leaving no one alive or data available to duplicate it...
the renegade Re-genesis project could be the attempt to rediscover and perfect/improve the cloning tech using the Tiberium...
-the Cyborgs:
Volkov and chikov are cyborg prototypes in RA:aftermath to the cyborgs of TibSun, lost tech that never reappears in the RA timeline...
and me personally think the Kane in KW is a lunatic, an insane clone from tiberium exposure...
Cabal and Legion could be a Eva with a corrupted copy of Kane's consciousness corrupted even more by the overwhelming amount of data, that could of been corrupted from the multiple crashes in its multiple transports from place to place...
cloning also explains the existence of Kane after the multiple deaths... and that could be the background to the "Kane lives in death" Kane's mind living even though his body is long since dead. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:59 am Post subject:
Kane went in to the bunker he made under the Temple. Then, he rose again in TS, then hided in bunker again, then came back in Kanes Wrath _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:25 pm Post subject:
As much as I like the CNC storyline, you can't accept the RA->TD timeline without making massive suspensions in disbelief.
Westwood says RA is a prequel yet the geopolitical situations of each game are so drastically and hugely different that they can't conceivably match. RA was a game where the geopolitical situation was entirely European and the outcome of either ending (Soviet or Allied) would lead to a drastically different world than the one of TD. This is because the TD geopolitical situation matches our 1990s. (very obviously post Cold War, USA-centric) _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:33 pm Post subject:
Red Alert series are not directly linked, I think. The use of time machine by Kane in the end of RA3, would make the best sense. _________________ DUNK! QUICK_EDIT
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That's great. He's like those people that live to 125...
ReGenesis
