Behind the mysterious mosaic hides the continuation of a (mostly here) highly popular game series, the Star Game next month exclusively revealed. We are on the ground in the U.S., as the first magazine to take a look at a playable version, and the state of development throw. Look forward with us on our cover story of Star Game Edition 09/2008, which will unveil the secret!
Continuation (from all in this country) extremely the popular play series which reveals GameStar the next month exclusively.
We are on site in the USA to throw a look at a playable version and the state of the development as an ertses magazine.
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It's C&C4. Why?:
1. Continuation
2. Pic looks like an RTS in-game
3. Popular game series in Germany
And it looks like a desert in that pic with blue and black units, and I saw some yellow, too, in there. GDI vs Scrin in a desert tileset? It also makes sense, since they said it's a continuation of a popular game in Germany; Continuation of the Tiberian series, which is extremely popular in Germany.
Pic:
Announcement leak?:
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Play in the first RTS game with MMORPG like player progression in which you are rewarded every time you play. Every unit you kill in single player, multiplayer, or skirmish gives you experience points that allows you to level up your abilities and unlock new units, powers, and upgrades to your arsenal.
Introducing the first mobile base in RTS games: The Crawler. Focus on the action as the Crawler becomes your all-in-one base, which can be deployed and redeployed anywhere on the battlefield for even more strategic options
Play with all new, bigger and badder, units from GDI and Nod, including the Crawler, the first ever mobile base in RTS games
Dive into an all-new story written by a new scriptwriting team and told through trademark C&C cinematics taken to the next level with grittier, stylized FMVs in the vein of Minority Report.
Play in the first ever class-based C&C game – a new challenge for C&C and RTS players to master
Play the campaign on your own or tackle it with a friend, as co-operative campaigns return
Play in epic 5 vs 5 online multiplayer with all new objective-based game modes
This guy also did art for Tiberium. Scroll down on his blogspot page for some samples.
EDIT3:
Mike Verdu (originally the head of EALA from last year to June 2009) also sent me this E-mail when I asked him about what's gonna happen with all the work put into Tiberium:
Since he says it's influencing the next C&C game, as in, already, now (back in March, when he responded to the E-mail I sent him), we can only assume that the game was already under works and that the Tiberium stuff was heavily being relied upon for work on the next C&C, which would, in this case, have to be C&C4.
Note that since Mike left EA, his E-mail will likely be invalid and you won't get an answer back from him (and even if he still used it, it took him 2-3 weeks to reply to me). I hid my E-mail address, as that's my professional E-mail address, and I don't want spam in there.
Also, watch out for the next 2 issues of PC Gamer. EALA tend to announce each new C&C game (expansions aside) in PC Gamer, as was the case with RA3, Tiberium and TW. KW and RA3 Uprising were announced in BattleCast PrimeTime episodes.
oh god no...
if anything, renegade 2 should be made. or tiberium... bastards, i was looking forward to that game _________________ With sadness in my heart and joy in my mind QUICK_EDIT
but at least they are continuing some form of CNC- Tiberium was going to be awesome, I hope may they t try to make a game like it in the future. Cant say Im upset about cnc4- sounds good to me man. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Mike Verdu, whom I E-mailed back in March, when he was still head of EALA, told me that the stuff in Tiberium was already in the next C&C game. (Vaguely, though)
Don't worry, we were all looking forward to that game. QUICK_EDIT
I just hope that this C&C4 gets to be real interesting. but still. the photo is form a fan magizine hardly the type to be 100% true. We will see next month I suppose if its a true statment. _________________ Link to a document to see what mods i have and/or working on or working with
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Pic looks so C&C 3-ish that it could very well be an expansion pack ala KW (which would be pretty amusing if it were). _________________
The white lady~! QUICK_EDIT
Ugh... Why are these things always here when I'm in no mood for this stuff? Normally I could tolerate it but after a quick visit to my old community and a thread about how that company is sending their flagship series down the sink in order to make t more mainstream the last thing I want to hear s MMO-like progression in an RTS! When I build a battle lab I f*cking well want tier 3 units not "You must win another 5 games against some online rushfag twat before we'll let you have mammies! Hahaha, this'll make our content go further!".
All it'll do is give advantages to those douchbags who play a fuckton online and want more as a reward than ocd, carpal tunnel syndrome and the disdain of actual gamers.
If it were an actual MMO or even better an FO3 style RPG I could handle it, especially if it were done nicely. Unfortunately there's sod all chance of that and they'll just use it to violate the backstory for lols and sales. _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
If it were a MMO there's practically zero chance that I'll even bother. I'm just not an MMO person to begin with, I cannot afford the commitment needed to excel (or even survive) in such games.
Plus there's just something about paying money every month that doesn't work for me. :p _________________
The white lady~! QUICK_EDIT
Eugh, if it were monthly subscription I'd go round looking for other people's copies to break. MMOs are the sludge at the bottom of the gaming barrel. If games were beer then MMOs would be marmite, you either love it or you hate it. Guess what? I hate it.
MMOs offer long-term profit, so thankfully tat doesn't fit with EA's gameplan That's one benefit of short-sighted games meant to recoup their losses and make a profit wirthin a year. It thankfully means we're unlikely to see an mmo. _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
dear god, that would be awful, isn't it a BIT to soon to throw another CNC game out? RA 2 isn't *that* long out.....and TW isn't very old either, god the release dates are the most awful thing ever if it comes to cnc...either 10 years or 3 month's you never know!....
this smells like squeezing the freaking cow out. _________________ Hydraw Art on Facebook QUICK_EDIT
What are you guys talking about? Command & Conquer 4? You got to be joking. EA is making Generals 2, which is something I've been waiting for for ages. The red alert 3 premier edition had the key to the beta of the next c&c game (which was NOT uprising. EA registered generals2.com. I think it is quite obvious that generals 2 is in the making.
I'm sure we won't hear about the tiberium-redalert universes for quite some time.
I hope it will be as good as the first generals _________________ QUICK_EDIT
EA registered generals2 through to 9.com. I think it's quite obvious it means nothing.
They also registered redalert 4-9 as well IIRC.
They also put screenshots of a mammoth "tank" and replaced the hammer of the soviet symbol with a flower. It seems they like to joke (maybe even too much). But since the red alert 3 premier edition had the key for the new beta, and it would be insane to release a sequel to tiberium wars for now, it is most likely that the next c&c game will be generals 2.
But, as someone said.
"Time will tell... Sooner or later, time will tell..." _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Tiberium was looking promising, I still have no idea how it could've "not matched their expectations". If they are indeed following that art direction, then good.
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epic
OH FFS!!!
Is there not a single EA RTS game that doesn't have the word "epic" used at any point during its production?! _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject:
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Play in the first RTS game with MMORPG like player progression in which you are rewarded every time you play. Every unit you kill in single player, multiplayer, or skirmish gives you experience points that allows you to level up your abilities and unlock new units, powers, and upgrades to your arsenal.
Introducing the first mobile base in RTS games: The Crawler. Focus on the action as the Crawler becomes your all-in-one base, which can be deployed and redeployed anywhere on the battlefield for even more strategic options
Play with all new, bigger and badder, units from GDI and Nod, including the Crawler, the first ever mobile base in RTS games
Dive into an all-new story written by a new scriptwriting team and told through trademark C&C cinematics taken to the next level with grittier, stylized FMVs in the vein of Minority Report.
Play in the first ever class-based C&C game – a new challenge for C&C and RTS players to master
Play the campaign on your own or tackle it with a friend, as co-operative campaigns return
Play in epic 5 vs 5 online multiplayer with all new objective-based game modes
nice idea but no dont do this to CnC or RA infact dont even do this to Dune or generals
id buy a rts game like this but i think it would just spoil CnC (+Dune)
am i the only one who is getting the feeling if this is true its going to be a make-as-much-money-as-you-can-porting-it-to-everything game
at least milk dune or generals a bit more before milking the over milked again _________________ Creator of TS:BoB and some other things that might be good when finnished. QUICK_EDIT
make-as-much-money-as-you-can-porting-it-to-everything game
Yep. That's how EA rolls.
If they put any of that crazy bullshit into RA1 I'm fed-exing them boxes of horse manure labeled "Red Alert 4 concept art". _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
Yeah.Noticed the same shit as rami.The pic looks too much as AOE4.
Also,why the heck didn't they continue Gen.?
I'd love a continuation to Generals too, just more EndWar-like and less weird (the chinese buildings with their rural village design still never really appealed to me...) _________________
The white lady~! QUICK_EDIT
EA registered generals2 through to 9.com. I think it's quite obvious it means nothing.
They also registered redalert 4-9 as well IIRC.
They also put screenshots of a mammoth "tank" and replaced the hammer of the soviet symbol with a flower. It seems they like to joke (maybe even too much). But since the red alert 3 premier edition had the key for the new beta, and it would be insane to release a sequel to tiberium wars for now, it is most likely that the next c&c game will be generals 2.
But, as someone said.
"Time will tell... Sooner or later, time will tell..."
Actually, the Community Manager, APOC, has confirmed long ago that the next C&C game is NOT going to be Generals 2.
raminator wrote:
it´s surely is AOE4
AOE isn't really popular in Germany, and Microsoft said they wouldn't do another Age of Empire games after 3.
Trust me, it's not. APOC said that Generals 2 is not the next game. No matter what you think the pattern really should be or what you want, or what is obvious for you, it's likely not gonna happen, as everything points towards C&C4, even though logic would have it that EA make General 2.
Also:
This was also present in the latest issue of GameStar:
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Many C&C fans might read after the easy one of the heading probably stand already shortly before a moderately severe cardiac infarction. This is why we would like to ventilate the secret fast. It concerns with the " Kanes " a never appearing play which is to be found on the satire page of the topical GameStar issue. This month the subject for the so-called " last side " which is filled always with amusing contents was EA and the ledge mania.
The fourth and for us probably the most important play on this side is "the Kanes", a mixture of C&C and the ledge. Beside the amusing accompanying text they also occur or other rather entertaining sayings on the packaging on - "Nod so bad" said New York Times, for example, to this game.
Thus it was simply supposed that EA liked to market all present big franchise brands in own ledge universe anew. Besides, out there came four plays. "The zombies" are a mixture on Left 4 Dead and the ledge. "The tanks" placed beside the ledge on Battlefield and "The Dons" deal as a base with the game the godfather.
Yes, a joke, but possibly a hint as to what game this GameStar Magazine will reveal next issue.
And:
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During the last hours and days the events and rumors overturn all around the potential successor C&C4. Possible functions and exposure appointment already wander like a ghost as a rumor for few days through the net. New fire kindles the announcement of the CommandCOM which will take place on the GamesCom. There the participants should receive access to confidential information and not yet published technologies. At the same time the Ladder season 3 Finale takes place there.
If we look back now at the last days, this mysterious EA survey with the supposed first information about C&C4 appears to fit very well in the general view.
And, besides, the worldwide exposure of C&C4 by the GameStar on the 29th July almost appears too perfectly to be true. However, thus as it looks, all signs stand really on C&C4 and for the end of July and the GamesCom.
And the best news comes in the end, because you can be present with the CommandCOM. We draw lots for a place for this exclusive spectacle of the superlatives. Considers you well, why we should take just you!
For months the Community speculates on the next C&C play. During the last days the stone of the speculations came only properly to the roles, as a mysterious and supposedly from EA ordered survey the first supposed details which could create it into the play, betrayed. For many this survey itself was a big rumor, because anyhow nobody has one day seen them. Now some Admins of big C&C-fan sides which should have taken part in the survey announce themselves bit by bit. As a proof there are two pictures to see.
Few well-known members from the international C&C-Community of an e-mail address EA got the invitation for this survey only very much, reported CNCGENERALSWORLD. The survey is carried out by 2CV. Besides, it concerns a more than 20 year-old market research enterprise from Great Britain. It seems to become more and more hotly there outdoors! We may be curious what rolls towards us.
GameStar let the cat out of the bag:
http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/strategie/45150/command_conquer_4.html
They wouldn't add the game to the list if it was just a rumor like they reported. They had an article about that survey so far. So this means they're sure C&C4 is coming...Another hint that they're gonna announce it next month? QUICK_EDIT
From a German website...The person who sent me the pic told me that, but refused to give me a link to it...All he got was apparently the link to the pic anyway. I just uploaded it on tinypic, as imageshack refuses to load.
Apparently, a new C&C game will be announced on that date. This coincides with the announcement of a new game by GameStar. No way this is shopped, as the only pic we've had of this thing had stuff where the date is, so it'd be hard to remove it and add this instead and make it look official... QUICK_EDIT
So you hope they're going to break their amazing roll since they dissolved WW? No chance. Although TBH the decline isn't all their fault there is a correlation between EA and cash-cow milking. _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:13 pm Post subject:
Let's say it this way: it's their last chance for me to prove they can make a good C&C game, or else they can forget my support. Not that they really care what 1 person thinks... QUICK_EDIT
Ok, so lets recap. EA wants money (release a new game), and they want more money (make that game a MMO so you can charge monthly fees). Then, in order to combat criticism, make yourself more like your main competitor (which would be blizzard. Thus they are adding some rpg elements to this rts game). Which finally brings me to the conclusion that this is going to be a gaint game of risk, where you battle skirmishes, gain upgrades, and bring those to the next battle-thus the talk of online play and the repeated picture of the world. You will get that command unit, which I guess will act like hero units in Warcraft 3; gaining upgrades and bonus and shit, and you will take it from one battle to another. So the whole thing is going to be like your playing that global conquest mode in KW, coupled with a play style similair to WC3, and finally with a little WoW sprinkled on it. _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
Ok, so lets recap. EA wants money (release a new game), and they want more money (make that game a MMO so you can charge monthly fees). Then, in order to combat criticism, make yourself more like your main competitor (which would be blizzard. Thus they are adding some rpg elements to this rts game). Which finally brings me to the conclusion that this is going to be a gaint game of risk, where you battle skirmishes, gain upgrades, and bring those to the next battle-thus the talk of online play and the repeated picture of the world. You will get that command unit, which I guess will act like hero units in Warcraft 3; gaining upgrades and bonus and shit, and you will take it from one battle to another. So the whole thing is going to be like your playing that global conquest mode in KW, coupled with a play style similair to WC3, and finally with a little WoW sprinkled on it.
OF COURSE THEY WANT MONEY! EA wants money because they're a company, and they need revenue to survive. If they don't get money, then they can't continue doing what they love, and that is, making video games. (They also can't survive and buy food, use electricity and pay taxes...) QUICK_EDIT
Well, of course they want money, but there are many ways of making money. They have chosen the route of releasing many cheap products rather than fewer high quality products. They put less effort in, and expect the same outcome (or rather income). See what I am trying to say? _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
Well, of course they want money, but there are many ways of making money. They have chosen the route of releasing many cheap products rather than fewer high quality products. They put less effort in, and expect the same outcome (or rather income). See what I am trying to say?
That's lower quality to YOUR standards. Tiberium looked high quality yet was cancelled for not being high quality enough. C&C3 was apparently high quality. Just because it doesn't follow TS correctly, it doesn't make it a bad quality product.
I can't say I'm a huge fan of C&C3, but hey, it's definately not an awful game. If you wanna see a real bad quality RTS that sucks, try Stalin vs Martians. QUICK_EDIT
Pity such a business model isn't exactly the most successful.
Look at other greats who actually make quality games. (Blizzard, Infinity Ward, Bungie to name a few) They don't go around making a game in 6 months and expect it to sell 10 million units. They make a quality run and it usually sells no less than 10 million units. QUICK_EDIT
And so the hype begins. Starting with some fresh underwear.
It's a nice survey. I like how they appear to be taking into consideration previous games and other game series. They may be bluffing, but for now, I'm content. QUICK_EDIT
Ok, so lets recap. EA wants money (release a new game), and they want more money (make that game a MMO so you can charge monthly fees).
Well the whole RTS-franchise-turned-MMO thing isn't new. Blizzard did it with WOW, and that game has became quite the money-spinner for Blizzard.
Team SomeGuy wrote:
Pity such a business model isn't exactly the most successful.
Look at other greats who actually make quality games. (Blizzard, Infinity Ward, Bungie to name a few) They don't go around making a game in 6 months and expect it to sell 10 million units. They make a quality run and it usually sells no less than 10 million units.
Bungie seems to be going down the cash cow milking route now with yet another Halo title on the heels of ODST. As Yahtzee said, "If anyone thinks a new Halo game would be the slightest bit worth a damn, that certainly is a reach!"
And Blizzard... well... SCII got trilogy-fied. *cash register SFX* _________________
The white lady~! QUICK_EDIT
Pic looks so C&C 3-ish that it could very well be an expansion pack ala KW (which would be pretty amusing if it were).
That's because it is a C&C3 screenshot:
Thanks to Kodaemon for the image.
When I first saw the pic I too had gone to check on screenshots just to confirm if it was an existing pic. Unfortunately I only looked at KW official screencaps and didn't check for C&C 3 ones. You can find a mirror-image version of the pic on page 6 of the IGN Tiberium Wars pic gallery.
Lt Albrecht wrote:
Looks kinda crate-like, I'd wager it's a stock C&C3 item.
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Command & Conquer 4!
That's one benefit of short-sighted games meant to recoup their losses and make a profit wirthin a year. It thankfully means we're unlikely to see an mmo.
