Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:35 am Post subject:
What a summer this is!
Subject description: A crappy one that is!
So...summer... a time of playing out in the typically hot and humid weather. Set back and relax in the shade, play in the sun, or go swimming are some typical activities in that nice hot and humid weather.
But again...I said typically that's what summer is like...
Let me just post what tomorrow's weather looks like for my area....
Sat, July 18
Partly Cloudy
High of 68°F
Low of 50°F
oh have I mentioned that we have only broke 90°F maybe 3 times when it's usually about 90°F the entire summer in my area?
Also worth mentioning is that this spring we lacked our typical flooding. In the past we have gotten one big flood somewhere around the time during late March - early May area. But instead we just a few light rains.
This also makes you wonder why they don't call it Global Temperature Fluctuation instead of Global Warming. But really I think they should call it Global f*ckage.
Anyways...I'm kinda curious as to any other abnormalities that are happening in the weather for other areas. So yea...discuss! _________________ Kalistia Crestland (2)
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All I know is something is happening its been hotter lately.
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:47 am Post subject:
Since 4/5 years ago, it started snowing on the capital, Santiago de Chile, well that wouldn't be impressive if it was something common.
As far as the records exists (since the Spanish colony), it had never snowed on the capital (I'm referring to the actual city, since snow is common on the Andes).
Also it seems that every year the snowing is stronger, and covers a bigger area (no snow where I live, yet). However it's also worth mentioning that summers are getting hotter, and winters sightly wetter in a "desert country" (it wouldn't be bad, as it would mean a smaller cost of water, but it causes a lot of trouble when problems arise in the infrastructure, which is not really well prepared for intensive raining).
Anyways global warming is a misleading term, it means that the average global temperature is rising, slowly. However this also carries within itself a change in the climatic patterns; so it's not weird to find that the temperatures are falling in some places. QUICK_EDIT
Dudes, you should live in the equator where it's summer 365 days a year with temperatures ranging from 2x to 4x degrees Celsius.>_> _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
I'll just be sitting here, watching the temperature raise, until the current climate system collapses in chaos, causing mass death in the third world, and mass extinction among animals.
And then I'll point and laugh at all the people who thought global warming was a joke.
And eat a cockroach sandwich, because all the cows and sheep and pigs went extinct.
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Since 4/5 years ago, it started snowing on the capital, Santiago de Chile, well that wouldn't be impressive if it was something common.
As far as the records exists (since the Spanish colony), it had never snowed on the capital (I'm referring to the actual city, since snow is common on the Andes).
Also it seems that every year the snowing is stronger, and covers a bigger area (no snow where I live, yet). However it's also worth mentioning that summers are getting hotter, and winters sightly wetter in a "desert country" (it wouldn't be bad, as it would mean a smaller cost of water, but it causes a lot of trouble when problems arise in the infrastructure, which is not really well prepared for intensive raining).
Anyways global warming is a misleading term, it means that the average global temperature is rising, slowly. However this also carries within itself a change in the climatic patterns; so it's not weird to find that the temperatures are falling in some places.
In the last 5 years, up here in Colorado has had a similar effect. On the average the winters are getting colder (moreso than their infamous nature), summers are getting hotter and strangely more humid (we've had more humid days lately than dry days and we're a notch or two above desert), and all over has been getting wetter.
We had monsoons from hell 3 of the last 5 years. We've had spring snow that just buries us. And we get rain anymore in times of year where it shouldn't (late May-early June, mid-late September).
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Over there at Philipines, its like.....every single year its either a really hot inferno, or the uber rain season, I consider my Country to be a red zone.
And when I mean uber rain seasons, I mean that they rain so hard, the houses start flooding, and the rain just keeps on going and going, hitting really hard. The words "hot" and "inferno" are kinda self explanatory :3 _________________ Please, I DON'T read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
Bah, English weather is screwed, just like everyone elses, we got a 5 day summer a few weeks ago and it's been meh/bad since. _________________ Yes, work on MV continues. It is not forgotten. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject:
This year is kinda cold, weather is simply screwed and it's fault of those industrymen (both capitalistic and socialistic) and farmers (however they have limited possibilities to lower the main source of the global warming).
If I understood right, around 40% of the Global warming is caused by agriculture, namely methan and destruction of forrests in tropic areas (mild areas are more problematic).
Industry in generally is ineffective, they waste their energy. Instead of streamlining they rise the prices.
One of few really ecological powerplants is the nuclear one.
The Fission PP "produces less radiation" in it's waste
than Coal PP releases into air
in form of radioisotopes common in coal (this means Austrian government brokes their constitution).
Fission PP doesn't release CO2 in the air,
more ecological are only water, geothermal PPs and solar oven PPs in dessert areas.
IMHO, ecology of PPs from the best to worst:
1. Fusion PP (future)
2. Future Solar PP
3. Geothermal PP in vulcanic areas
4. Solar Oven PP
5. Water PP
6. Fission PP without waste (waste would "burn out")
7. Fission PP
8. hi-tech PP running on garbage, methane
or biomass
9. Coal PP
10. today Solar PP (17% efficiency, each year is decreasing)
11. Wind PP (ecological costs return in several hundred years)
Also, if you thing bioproducts are ecological, you can be wrong.
Cows from biofarm produce more methane than cows from cow-shed.
Since this food contains no chemicals, it can be healthier (but not necessarily (mould, maggots, etc.)), but ecological load is worse.
Agriculture needs real technical revolution (maybe green towers),
there is need of reasonable genetical engineering (there are side effects like poisoned sedgefly larvas with biochemicals from one kind of GMO-maize leaves),
energetics should be rather nuclear (fussion will be the best),
industry should streamline and use more electricity (which should lower the price).
So the conclusion is: ecological development is an utopy,
the global warming is unstoppable because of the human nature,
we can expect modified "Brown Technologies" scenario: nationalism will rise rapidly, hunger and diseases will spread, living conditions will be harder, big corporations or authoritative governments will dictate their will and normal human will live harder than now. The only positive thing is there will be technological development (fussion, space programmes).
This reccession can bring some improvements, but question is if the mighty ones will allow this.
Maybe it's just the cloudy cold weather...
(today we had 13°C =.= 55.4°F)
Little note in the end: in the ice ages the weather was more changeable, summer was similar like today normal summer, only winter was cooler. _________________
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haha, like my dad told me before, the earth is flipping, literally, as in, North pole will become the south and vice versa. _________________ Please, I DON'T read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
haha, like my dad told me before, the earth is flipping, literally, as in, North pole will become the south and vice versa.
Last I heard, the North Pole is just moving. It'll be closer to Siberia than to Alaska. Which means the famous "northern lights" seen there and Canada would be gone or at best infrequent.
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Team SomeGuy, your climate is going to change to a "Russian" climate.
Tropical summers, freezing winters.
You mean it isn't already? The only thing differentiating us from Moscow is about 20 degrees latitude (closest parallel to here is 38N yes the same as the Korean DMZ) and over a vertical mile in elevation. Otherwise it's more or less the same. Ok maybe it's a little drier and more mountainous. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:32 am Post subject:
Team SomeGuy wrote:
Last I heard, the North Pole is just moving. It'll be closer to Siberia than to Alaska.
That's the magnetic North Pole, it shouldn't have anything to do with the climate change.
Anyways, there are enough proofs that it's man made, as no other climate change has been so fast in the past. And yes, the main cause is the accumulation of greenhouse gases, is increasing the global temperature, but not by much, but enough to cause the destabilization of a delicate system as is the climatic patterns. Also this can also lead to several other problems.
Here in Chile, an arid country, summers are getting hotter and drier, this is of special importance to the south of the country, the main economic activities there, are fishing and wood cutting (the native forests are protected, but there's these "tree farms", which is long land extensions with densely packed artificial forests). Anyways this means an increase in forest fires, a big one.
This past summer (February for me) I went to the south for around a week, and I saw 5 different forest fires (I guess it's already common there, since those were controlled quite fast), and it was in just one city. QUICK_EDIT
Anyways this means an increase in forest fires, a big one.
This past summer (February for me) I went to the south for around a week, and I saw 5 different forest fires (I guess it's already common there, since those were controlled quite fast), and it was in just one city.
We have a similar "problem" in Colorado. The wildfires get hotter and more dangerous with every year.
The main reason why?
"since those were controlled quite fast".
Fire suppression policies.
In my part of the world (indeed most semi-arid to arid regions are the same way) fire is a REQUIRED part of the local ecosystem. Keep fires suppressed and you end up with tons and tons of debris, diseased trees, and other problems. (In California the giant sequoia redwoods need fire for reproduction) We have literally over a hundred areas in our mountains where all it needs is a spark and you will get a firestorm guaranteed.
Not to mention the rampant mistletoe (actually an infectious disease towards evergreens) infestations, pine beetle and other problems that are usually solved by fire. (Pine beetle and other insects are also kept in check by cold winters too but until recently the winters in the mountains were not quite cold enough to keep them down)
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:39 am Post subject:
This winter is being a bit colder than the other winters here (yea, it is winter in the south hemisphere right now). Temperatures like 16'C and 17'C are happening more often here. But Rio de Janeiro can't get much colder than that (the lowest temperature here was about 11'C). QUICK_EDIT
It rained for the like the entire month of June, which is unheard of in MA, but it seems to be getting hot thise past couple of days. Work gets kinda boring with all the rain when your main purpose is to mow grass... _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
It's about 24'C here now. I hate the heat, I prefer winter when it's something like -10 to -20'C in Finland. Or even -30'C. _________________
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I feel at home with that temperature Expats and tourists must have their air-cons on full blast before they adapt to the high temps here I bet. _________________ Please, read the signature rules of the forum. QUICK_EDIT
Well, English weather is fucked anyway, global warming or no global warming...
Same can be said about ours Ixo
and ours
last year we hardly had any summer, not that i'm mad about that, personaly i like cold weather i can't handel the heat that well, never could.
this year seems to be the same, altho august and even september can still get verry hot here, there is alot of humidity in the air and that duse not make good summers.
the days i hate the most are the ones where there is no sun but its bloody hot as hell, they mostly happen right before thunder and lighting strike. but here they can last a couple of days to a week before we hear any booms.
no, give me fall and winter, atleast you can dress for it. cant run around naked in summer so they suck. Last edited by Wess on Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:35 pm; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:35 pm Post subject:
Wess wrote:
Dutchygamer wrote:
Ixonoclast wrote:
Well, English weather is fucked anyway, global warming or no global warming...
Same can be said about ours Ixo
and ours
last year we hardly had any summer, not that i'm mad about that, personaly i like cold weather i can't handel the heat that well, never could.
this year seems to be the same, altho august and even september can still get verry hot here, there is alot of humidity in the air and that duse not make good summers.
the days i hate the most are the ones where there is no sun but its bloody hot as hell, they mostly happen right before thunder and lighting strike. but here they can last a couple of days to week before we hear any booms.
no, give me fall and winter, atleast you can dress for it. cant run around naked in summer so they suck.
After Lamb of God played in the Sonisphere festival in Sweden yesterday they rocked so hard that apparently God woke up and he decided to piss us all over with rain. By the time I got a raincoat it was already too late because the rain stopped for the rest of the evening. The day started nice and sunny though. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:58 am Post subject:
It's quite logical that Dutchy's (Netherlands) and Wess' (Belgium) stories are true for me too, seeing as I live in the Netherlands.
I do prefer cold to heat, versus heat you can't really protect yourself (yeah, running around naked ). _________________ ☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭
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At the moment, the temperatuhe here (in Western Estland) is abot 18'C. At night it drops to like 7-9'C, the max (in the shade) is 32'C. And yesterday it rained like hell. Today it hasn't been raining, but it's still impossible to move in the yard without getting you'r feet wet. But now there's that awful wind, that blows the clothes right off the drying line and into the bushes.
For me, the summer has been pretty nice, only a few rainy days and a lot of sunny days. QUICK_EDIT
It's funny to see Ixith complaining about temperatures that are our average during summer. We did have a heat-wave in the end of June and early July, but now it's back to normal. Our warmest temperature so far has been just under 90'F or 31,4'C. What's bugging me most is the frequent rain, but we do seem to get a bit of sun, which is good. QUICK_EDIT
I just looked at the temperatures, our Summer in Adelaide last year had a 3 week heat wave of over 45c which is roughly 113f with nights at around 35c (95f).
Though our winter has been raining nearly every day which is highly unusual :S. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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