Kane's Wrath Mod SDK

Golan · Flamethrower **Joined**: 21 Nov 2007

Sometimes, dreams come true - usually, you have to put a lot of work into them though. While most of the community was busy dreaming of an SDK for Kane's Wrath, few actually tried; no one succeeded. Now is the time that this might change:

Asuka aka Lauren, well known for his work on many top-quality TW modifications like Tower Defense, has begun development of a tool to actually allow editing Kane's Wrath! And to show that it's really working he already made a small change for demonstration:

However, while his approach is definitely the right one, a project of this size requires considerable amount of work. So, if you are skilled in programming and willing to help, please contact him.
The project is registered on ModDB so you can easily track it there.

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Dutchygamer · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject:

Now that is awesome. Long live the community!

Volgin · Commander **Joined**: 07 Mar 2009

If only somebody would make a new TS map editor... Sad

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Orac · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:16 pm Post subject:

Volgin wrote:

If only somebody would make a new TS map editor... Sad

But a SDK for KW would be good. This is definitely the path to follow: DIY modding tools.

spy46 · Rocket Infantry **Joined**: 14 Jul 2008

FREAKING A
...... i hope that he can do it and every thing, and i wish him the best of luck doing it.

Alex06 · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:48 am Post subject:

I never thought this would EVER happen. This is quite an amazing feat...Kudos to Asuka then!

EDIT: Is it possible to import custom art into the game with this mod SDK?

Ju-Jin · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:55 am Post subject:

If all goes right: yes, but thats a long way ^^

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Valdez · Tiberian Fiend **Joined**: 30 Nov 2008

Not to mention by the time is's ready would any of the current predominant C&C 3 mods bother to switch to KW in the first place...

I personally hope MEC2 doesn't switch since I don't have KW but I'd like to be able to continue playing MEC2 Laughing

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purplescrin · Light Infantry **Joined**: 21 May 2008

Lauren = Asaka = Ju-Jin = JJ? He's still a him.

You guys are actually going to do this after EALA and CoreAngel called it off? I somehow revived the KW game in Moddb after devs remove the game to prevent future KW mods from going in. And now the latest KW mod will be a custom KW mod sdk.

I just hope you guys do NOT fail this just like what happened to CoreAngel and her team. A better organizational behavior is needed to make this development easier.

suraj_geddam98 · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:43 pm Post subject:

Awesome. Can't wait to mod KW.

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

Volgin wrote:

If only somebody would make a new TS map editor... Sad

Not as hard as you might think...

Volgin · Commander **Joined**: 07 Mar 2009

But nobody has done it. #Tongue

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Ixonoclast · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject:

Awesome news.

CoreAngel can choke on a radioactive dick.

Dutchygamer · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Kane's Wrath Mod SDK

purplescrin wrote:

Lauren = Asaka = Ju-Jin = JJ? He's still a him.

You guys are actually going to do this after EALA and CoreAngel called it off? I somehow revived the KW game in Moddb after devs remove the game to prevent future KW mods from going in. And now the latest KW mod will be a custom KW mod sdk.

I just hope you guys do NOT fail this just like what happened to CoreAngel and her team. A better organizational behavior is needed to make this development easier.

This ain't JJ from Fallout Studios if you mean him. They are seperate persons Wink

Ju-Jin · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject:

uhm no I know nothing about this JJ but the other names are right..
I dislike some guys at Fallout Studios so no I am not active there.

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Aussie Bomber · Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject:

Hi Ju-Jin

I have unpacked some big files from kw which I thought I might contribute.
But I don't know where to post it

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Ju-Jin · Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject:

Uh I do have KW.. so I have the files.

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ravage · Soldier **Joined**: 16 Jul 2005

question:if you can do this to KW, can you do it to RA3 uprising, even CNC4 beta?

Aussie Bomber · Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:33 am Post subject:

ravage wrote:

question:if you can do this to KW, can you do it to RA3 uprising, even CNC4 beta?

Yes it is possible. But it requires OS Big editor (Look at Cnc Editing tools Forum)

purplescrin · Light Infantry **Joined**: 21 May 2008

Aussie Bomber wrote:

ravage wrote:

question:if you can do this to KW, can you do it to RA3 uprising, even CNC4 beta?

Yes it is possible. But it requires OS Big editor (Look at Cnc Editing tools Forum)

I wonder if OS Big Editor has a new update yet.

spy46 · Rocket Infantry **Joined**: 14 Jul 2008

any more news on this?

Rimtech00 · Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject:

Its good!

Ju-Jin · Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:54 am Post subject:

University makes the progress really slow at the moment..

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spy46 · Rocket Infantry **Joined**: 14 Jul 2008

i hear that, im in collage my self so i know it all too well.

Tetra Xiphos · Soldier **Joined**: 05 Mar 2008

You're in collage as well? Hopefully you've loded up on anglish courses; Smile

Jest ki3dden. I'm just hoarsing arownd, No disrespektment.

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Aussie Bomber · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:58 am Post subject:

Ju-Jin wrote:

University makes the progress really slow at the moment..

I have finished my schoolwork for the term. Would you like me to help you Question

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spy46 · Rocket Infantry **Joined**: 14 Jul 2008

yeah i have disylexia *sp*

and im in a 3D game animation and design course Very Happy

any ways, any new little bit of info for us to drool over yet on this?

Ju-Jin · Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:11 pm Post subject:

I've posted a small update @ ModDB
btw: you can vote for it too #Tongue

purplescrin · Light Infantry **Joined**: 21 May 2008

We are still in need for a next release update. Smile

Bibber · Disk Thrower **Joined**: 31 Aug 2007 **Location**: Germany

It's done when it's done, dude!

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Phantom139 · Vehicle Drone **Joined**: 04 Oct 2009 **Location**: US

I really hope you get this working, a KW SDK would be amazing.

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Ju-Jin · Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:17 pm Post subject:

I've posted an update on ModDB showcasing a video how map compiling works. Seems there will be a proof of concept demo next month featuring map compilation.
(Assets able to compile then:
GameMap.
GameScriptList,
MissionObjectiveList,
TerrainTextureAtlas,
Texture,
OnDemandTexture,
Weather)

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spy46 · Rocket Infantry **Joined**: 14 Jul 2008

any more news on this one?

Ju-Jin · Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:45 pm Post subject:

it seems the game doesnt load manifests from custom maps. I have tried a few things but nothing really working. I concluded to first do some other stuff like xp etc so that small balance mods are possible.

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spy46 · Rocket Infantry **Joined**: 14 Jul 2008

one step at a time, im sure that this must be harder than all hell for you guy/s working on this.

but hey if you can pull it off, power to you guys.

Ju-Jin · Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:17 pm Post subject:

Quick update:

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Ju-Jin · Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:25 pm Post subject:

It is done! (At least a tiny little bit ^^)
The first version for the public is here. But remember: it is an alpha version and featuring just MpGameRules, ArmorTemplate and LogicCommand. It is not much yet but it can be updated easily. Also it might be crashing from time to time (even if it doesn't for me anymore ^^). If it does please send me infos of what you have done where it crashed and maybe debug information if available.

Note: .net Framework 4.0 is required to use the SDK.
Also you might need to run the Launcher with elevated rights if you run Vista/7 and have installed KW in Program Files (The SDK itself asks for that rights per default).

The SDK:
http://thundermods.net/index.php?page=downloads&action=view&id=87
A special Mod Launcher (not directly needed but makes it easy to use, see SDK documentation)
http://thundermods.net/index.php?page=downloads&action=view&id=88

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Sedistix · Cyborg Engineer **Joined**: 27 Mar 2010

I held off on purchasing Kane's wrath, due to the absence of any modding support (SDK). Might have to buy it, if this continues to go well.

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purplescrin · Light Infantry **Joined**: 21 May 2008

Cool. Can't wait to try it out. Now we can wait for more features to come for the WrathEd.

Say, why wasn't this mentioned and updated in Moddb, Lauren (Ju-Jin) ?

ravage · Soldier **Joined**: 16 Jul 2005

nice,can't wait for the full version Very Happy

Ju-Jin · Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:03 pm Post subject:

ModDB isn't updated yet as it is much more work needed there then here... just lazy.

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huhnu · Cyborg Engineer **Joined**: 16 May 2009

Can someone compress a rar version of the installed program, as of late my Windows Installer Service has been not working(msis don't work...) and I've done 12-13 different things to fix it, but can't and was realy sad when this gave me the error everything else has been.

I'll put my question here again. Can someone compress a rar version of the installed program?

purplescrin · Light Infantry **Joined**: 21 May 2008

huhnu wrote:

Can someone compress a rar version of the installed program, as of late my Windows Installer Service has been not working(msis don't work...) and I've done 12-13 different things to fix it, but can't and was realy sad when this gave me the error everything else has been.

I'll put my question here again. Can someone compress a rar version of the installed program?

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Windows Installer? What version of the installer are you using? The minimum version of the Windows Installer in order to install WrathEd is 3.1.

@ Lauren (Ju-Jin) There's one thing that's left missing. A tutorial and some examples. I don't even know how to use this and the documentation is incomplete. This WrathEd seems quite fitting to experienced and expert modders but without the KW xml files and just manifest files, this WrathEd wouldn't be much useful for modding KW.

Also the ArmorTemplate and LogicCommand features are missing one thing to be included: the units and structures to be edited for each. Where are they?

There are some questions worth considering:
1. Is it possible if you can have some C&C3 xml files in a C&C3 mod and work in WrathEd for a KW mod? That also includes art assets, sounds and textures.

2. Is it possible to enable walls in KW using WrathEd?

3. Is it necessary to have extracted manifest and bin files from the KW directory (inside Core BIG files) in order for the WrathEd to get more functions to work?

4. Besides Ms Dotnet Framework 4.0, is there anything else required to run WrathEd? Does it work on all versions of KW or just KW 1.02?

huhnu · Cyborg Engineer **Joined**: 16 May 2009

purplescrin wrote:

huhnu wrote:

Can someone compress a rar version of the installed program, as of late my Windows Installer Service has been not working(msis don't work...) and I've done 12-13 different things to fix it, but can't and was realy sad when this gave me the error everything else has been.

I'll put my question here again. Can someone compress a rar version of the installed program?

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Windows Installer? What version of the installer are you using? The minimum version of the Windows Installer in order to install WrathEd is 3.1.

Don't ask questions, I've had this for a few days and I doubt I will be able to fix it. That's why I asked my question.

Sedistix · Cyborg Engineer **Joined**: 27 Mar 2010

Reinstall the os and it'll work.

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huhnu · Cyborg Engineer **Joined**: 16 May 2009

Sedistix wrote:

Reinstall the os and it'll work.

I didn't ask for technical support, I asked if someone could make a compressed version of the installed program.

Ju-Jin · Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:47 pm Post subject:

At the moment a newer version then the "official" download

Release.zip

Description:

Download

Filename:

Release.zip

Filesize:

4.41 MB

Downloaded:

324 Time(s)

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huhnu · Cyborg Engineer **Joined**: 16 May 2009

Thanks Asuka, although when I run it, I get this error:

"Unhandled exception at 0x76e542eb in SAGE-BinaryAssetBuilder-CommEd.exe: 0xE0434352: 0xe0434352."

It's probably to do with me missing some .NET Framework/DirectX(although I cannot install any atm) or just the fact that I didn't exactly install it the normal way.

Ju-Jin · Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:44 pm Post subject:

That seems .net related. It is needed to run, an installation is not needed. It saves everything in xml files, not the registry.

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huhnu · Cyborg Engineer **Joined**: 16 May 2009

Any idea what .NET it could possibly be?