Air/Air missile

thefordlover · Light Infantry **Joined**: 25 Oct 2009

I have Red Alert 2 without YR and seem to have ran into a question. How do I create Weapons for the harrier to fire into other aircraft?

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Aro · Alcohol Fueled **Joined**: 10 Sep 2006

Not possible without an .EXE hack.

Orac · Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:44 am Post subject:

Rockpatch, Npatch, Ares. And even then, you'd need YR.

hotrods20 · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2009

The power of FAIL

OmegaBolt · Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:01 am Post subject:

That's not fail, some idiot decided to abuse their cat for the internets.

Dark Templar X · Commander **Joined**: 26 Feb 2009

A slice of cheese on the face does not qualify as abuse. Seriously.

Orac · Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:36 am Post subject:

Does it even qualify as fail? Confused

thefordlover · Light Infantry **Joined**: 25 Oct 2009

ahh, come on stop it, I asked a Question, It got Answered, If you want to continue this go start a thread on it, but do it on another topic.

In fact:
http://www.ppmsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=366256#366256

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wardeathfun · Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:36 am Post subject:

placing cheese ontop of your cats face isnt abuse im afraid.

EricAnimeFreak · Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:24 am Post subject:

It's fail if the cat was trying to put the cheese on his sandwich though. But then again, I've never seen a cat capable of even atempting to make a sandwich and fail at it. Perhaps it's epic try and fail.

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LH_Mouse · Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:53 pm Post subject:

Without NPatch or RockPatch you'll get an attack cursor if you set AA=yes in the projectile, but actually the aircraft will keep circling and can't fire at all.

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Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

Orac wrote:

Does it even qualify as fail? Confused

The person who put the cheese there failed.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

You know there is a way to have air to air combat with out an exe hack!

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Aro · Alcohol Fueled **Joined**: 10 Sep 2006

Rubbish.

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

It is true! The only down fall to it is all the aircraft have to be low flying aircraft. I'm not not sure what the maximum FlightLevel= limit is to make it still work, but I had my air craft flying at an altitude of FlightLevel=40 and they engaged in Air to Air combat. Try for yourself, it works. Also I used a secondary weapon with AA=yes. As soon as I have a few extra minutes I'll throw together an ingame gif to show ya.

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Team SomeGuy · General **Joined**: 18 Aug 2006

FlightLevel=200 is the maximum (known) height for being counted as a ground vehicle (and thus working as planned for air to air combat).

This could only possibly work with graphics so small in scale they would be eyestraining.

EricAnimeFreak · Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:14 pm Post subject:

You could also make a plane that blows up in air and damages all air units around it... But it's not really an air battle, but more a complciated way to kami kaze other planes.

You would manually fly it towards the enemy aircrafts. Then target the ground, it blows up in mid air. And destroys all the flying units around it when it goes boom....

I don't recommend this method as it looks both silly and requires manually flying the planes...

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

I see, So in other words if FlightLevel= falls below 200 then the game reads it as a vehicle? Which I'm guessing is probably the case and seems logical enough. Well, this could still be a fun thing to mess around with, I just dont recommend flying around Tanks and such. Laughing

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Team SomeGuy · General **Joined**: 18 Aug 2006

Cranium wrote:

I see, So in other words if FlightLevel= falls below 200 then the game reads it as a vehicle?

Exactly. It will fly over terrain according to the aircraft locomotor and the Fly MovementZone, but for purposes of targeting, it acts like a ground vehicle.

Darkstorm · Commander **Joined**: 20 Jan 2008 **Location**: Texas

Perhaps make a voxel that has space below it, if at all possible and adjust the FLH up alot. Then you have the issue of landing.

Aro · Alcohol Fueled **Joined**: 10 Sep 2006

Told you, rubbish.

Dark Templar X · Commander **Joined**: 26 Feb 2009

In a practical sense, yes, but technically...

001010011100101110 · Commander **Joined**: 18 Aug 2009

Make an elevated airpad with an elevated "aircraft" with lots of space under it.

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Actually the FlightLevel=200 already gives it enough space under it. The planes do take off, engage in combat and land at airport for reloading. So in reality it is air to air combat just this way the planes can be shot down if close enough to a ground vehicle. This actually works pretty good, If the enemy sends planes to your base, and if you have GuardRange= and DefaultToGuardArea= set, these planes will automatically take off and try to shoot the enemy planes down. Razz

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Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

Since it is considered as vehicle due to the low flightlevel, doesn't normal units with AG weaponry can kill it this way too? Would look very odd if a tank fires its cannon on the aircraft.

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hotrods20 · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2009

So true I tested this stuff and to my amazement. The tanks started attacking the aircraft.

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

I had already mentioned that twice.

cranium wrote:

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it is air to air combat just this way the planes can be shot down if close enough to a ground vehicle.

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I just dont recommend flying around Tanks and such.

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Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

then i can just quote Aro.

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Told you, rubbish.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

For YR users/players this would be "Rubbish" I agree. But for those who still use, mod, and play normal RA2 "which has no patches at this time and probably never will" this is the only way possible to achive Air2Air combat.

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Crap Guy · Soldier **Joined**: 07 Dec 2009 **Location**: ???

Lazy fools, do an .exe hack for Ra2 and not just YR. Rolling Eyes

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Orac · Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:55 am Post subject:

Crap Guy wrote:

Lazy fools, do an .exe hack for Ra2 and not just YR. Rolling Eyes

Cheap-ass fools. buy YR Rolling Eyes

Dark Templar X · Commander **Joined**: 26 Feb 2009

Crap Guy wrote:

Lazy fools, do an .exe hack for Ra2 and not just YR. Rolling Eyes

Yeah. because all know it's really easy to write one. Rolling Eyes

Idiot.

Team SomeGuy · General **Joined**: 18 Aug 2006

Dark Templar X wrote:

Crap Guy wrote:

Lazy fools, do an .exe hack for Ra2 and not just YR. Rolling Eyes

Yeah. because all know it's really easy to write one. Rolling Eyes

Idiot.

It would be if EA would release the source code. But then again, that's not really hacking, more like re-programming/patching.

thefordlover · Light Infantry **Joined**: 25 Oct 2009

If I lowered the Harriers hight to below 200 would the harrier attack other Harriers?

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Team SomeGuy · General **Joined**: 18 Aug 2006

HAVE YOU NOT PAID ATTENTION TO THE THREAD?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

wardeathfun · Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:14 am Post subject:

it has nothing todo with weapons or hieghts... its simply anything under aircraft types has limitations. It just cant be fixed. The closest you will get is jumpjet units and that requires them to come out of factory.

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woops. did not see that post. sorry honest mistake... doubt i diserve to be shot for it though.

Team SomeGuy · General **Joined**: 18 Aug 2006

wardeathfun wrote:

it has nothing todo with weapons or hieghts... its simply anything under aircraft types has limitations. It just cant be fixed. The closest you will get is jumpjet units and that requires them to come out of factory.

Facepalm times over 9000.

Have you paid attention to the thread?