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Farewell, 2POC.
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Banshee
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:03 pm    Post subject:  Farewell, 2POC.
Subject description: The community will miss him.
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2POC, the main assistant from the C&C community manager APOC, is leaving the crew today. Here's his farewell post:



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Hey everyone,

Today I will be departing from the EALA team and moving on to whatever life throws at me. It’s been a blast throughout the last 3 years growing from a simple webmaster at CNC Vision, through an internship program during Red Alert 3, and the last year working officially for the C&C4 team. There’s been a great history between myself and many of you since I joined these boards prior to C&C3’s announcement as jsuh0107 and later nukewave. I am very very thankful that I could help forward on to the dev team not only community concerns, but all the great talent you guys show through artwork, maps, mods, replays, etc. The C&C community never fails to blow me away with everything you accomplish for your love of this franchise.

I may be back eventually as a regular forum user once again, who knows! This has been amazing experience with all of you, and I thank you for that!

-2POC/nukewave




2POC was a great enthusiastic of modding and made them (and fan maps) more visible at the Official Command & Conquer Site. He has also brought fans closer to the studio and supported us in many ways and made APOC more become accessible.

His efforts at EALA team are very appreciated by many C&C fans, including myself. It's really a pitty to see him go. He may still post in the EA forums as nukewave (his old account). I wish him the best, with an even better job in the future. Good luck in your next endeavours, 2POC!

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Volgin
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Obviously its the fault of the money-grubbing EA Jews who hate mods that 2poc has left? Ugh. This place is more biased than C&CDen. EA sucks every C&C post is really getting old, even if C&C4 is a piece of shit. Neutral

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Banshee
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't know why does it have anything related to any religion..


Anyway, the last sentence simply meant that he was fired by EA because the support live team had no business value (for them) and he was sorta linked with it.

So, this time it is really EA's fault.


But it has nothing to do with hating or not hating mods.

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Dutchygamer
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Good luck with your life 2POC, we'll miss ya Wink

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Cranium
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And yet, they deal another Blow to the CnC Community, Good job EA, keep up the good work you Morons Rolling Eyes

Good luck to ya 2Poc, Whether your with EA or not your part of the communty Forever!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Obviously its the fault of the money-grubbing EA Jews who hate mods that 2poc has left? Ugh. This place is more biased than C&CDen. EA sucks every C&C post is really getting old, even if C&C4 is a piece of shit.

Frankly, the whole situation (including the opposition) has been a big cliché for a long time.

Also; I didn't really know 2POC. Still, I will wish him good bye and good luck with his life. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oh Shits...

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MadHQ
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm trying to figure out how this is main page news worthy...

I only see this being a political kiss ass statement that happens with pretty much every thing you post Banshee...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

well, i will miss his maps. He makes kick ass maps and make posts. So it was EA's fault. EA don't know how to maintain the staffs who are dedicated to command and conquer. If it was westwood, he would have got promoted something higher

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Dark Templar X
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And this is EA's fault how? Have any of you hyperactive fanboys even considered the notion 2POC could be leaving on his own? No? Didn't think so.

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Mortecha
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Didn't he only just get the job..

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Banshee
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

No, he was actually one of the victims from the massive cutoff from the studio announced in october, Dark Templar X.

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Volgin
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So? Is that a reason to post 'ztype ea'? I'm glad SOMEBODY understood the point of my original post. Nobody here cried a wink about the development team getting fired but some guy who posts modding crap gets a whole send off? What a joke.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Volgin wrote:
Nobody here cried a wink about the development team

I wasn't too thrilled about them being laid off either...

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Dutchygamer
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Banshee, just a word of advice: I suggest removing the 'f*ck EA' part of the news post. Unless of course you don't want any support from EA with any competitions.
And no, I ain't an EA fanboy, but I hate to see EA drop support for our competitions...

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Banshee
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ok, I've overreacted. So, I've removed the polemic part of the news.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

EA is just doing what any other Gaming giant/Company would do in a bad economy situation. They have to adapt to the times. When the economy drops so does the number of employee's. It's a shame but is what needs to be done to survive sometimes. I guarantee ya if the economy was a whole lot better EA would be hiring instead of firing.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

No idea what 2poc even did. Just the name is annoying.

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GeckoYamori
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wasn't 2POC an intern? Yes, this is in all likelyhood related to the EALA downsizing rumors now that Raj is gone as well. But the way you phrased it initially made it sound like this had something to do with the live support team in particular.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

2POC had an experience a intern, but he returned later with a full time job, as far as I've heard.

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Ju-Jin
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

the live support team is dead anyway.. it was closed last year.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Did it ever do anything?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

How many patches does RA3 have?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Without it KW would be 1.1 etc

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Cranium wrote:
I guarantee ya if the economy was a whole lot better EA would be hiring instead of firing.

Nope. EAs management and company structure is so fundamentally flawed, they would need an economy ten times better just to stop bleeding cash. And then they wouldn't hire, they would buy established studios (and then dissolve them after EA management has managed to screw up the brand names that came with that studio. And no, I'm not primarily talking about WW here, they were partially responsible for their downfall themselves.)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

In all honesty, EA are now closer to being the good guys nowadays. They're releasing new, original games and they're not either filling games to the brim with DRM (Ubisoft) or churning out endless sequels for their games (Activision).

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Raj is gone as well


WHAT! O.O

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Clazzy wrote:
In all honesty, EA are now closer to being the good guys nowadays. They're releasing new, original games and they're not either filling games to the brim with DRM (Ubisoft) or churning out endless sequels for their games (Activision).

I'm not denying that. But it's also a fact that out of those 3 EA is still the one company that bleeds cash like there's no tomorrow, so my stance that their management/cost structure is bad still stands. And about the sequel thing, many of their games ARE sequels (FIFA, Madden NFL, C&C, Battlefield XY, NFS) and the situation with DRM has only improved after the Spore and RA3 fiascos.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Since the shift in leadership EA changed their attitude for the better in the eyes of the gamers, and of course this is largely why they find themselves in a bad situation economically today. They've invested a lot in creating (and marketing) new IPs, along with publishing other developer's games without swallowing them (like Brütal Legend) via the EA partners program. Most of these efforts haven't been that fruitful, with a few exceptions like Dead Space. The EA Partners program is being dismantled now, and John Riccitiello has earned something of a bad rep among shareholders.

Ultimately, you can pretty much blame the consumers for this. Nobody is buying the products they put all this effort into. Uninspired annual sequel milking is all that gamers really want, apart from a few very vocal ones who post on internet forums.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Whats wrong about sequels? It is a good gameplay and really is fun. So why change it? Why should I play some new gameplay if the old one is what I want. Also these "then just play [some older game]" comments are senseless. Why should I play a game with awful graphics when I want to play a certain genre. Why just not make an always good and fun to play experience just with new graphics. I am completely fine with that. And many others too or there wouldn't be so much modifications just featuring old stuff in new graphics.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

GeckoYamori wrote:
Ultimately, you can pretty much blame the consumers for this. Nobody is buying the products they put all this effort into. Uninspired annual sequel milking is all that gamers really want, apart from a few very vocal ones who post on internet forums.

True. Although I still think considering how many 'annual milking' series EA still owns, and the fact alone that they have The Sims, still leaves you scratching your head where all that money went. They really must have poured (far) too much into marketing of games that didn't sell.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, the Sims had lots of expansion. Sometimes, too much is bad. It's a good think EA didn't release all the faction expansion packs. Think about it

Tiberium Wars
Kane's Wrath
GDI Revenge
Tacitus Prophecy

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