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Hassan_2030
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:56 pm    Post subject:  Hover APC Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have made this recolour to use this vehicle
in TS for the GDI!

I hope you all like it!?

P.S. I have also made a cameo for this Exclamation



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Cranium
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Na, I dont like this Hassan, IMO all that black just dosent fit with everything else. Sorry. I like some of your other stuff, but this one needs more work. But thats just me.

Try a lighter shade of black.

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DonutArnold
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Normals seems to be a bit off.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The yellow is a bit too bright, but I like the rest!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ya might wanna redo it a bit, looks like a bumble bee at the moment.

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Askhati
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Umm... Not to sound contrary, but I think it actually looks quite decent. Reminds me very much of the Renegade look, to be honest.

I assume the yellow areas in the screenshot are in fact remap areas? Instead of making the whole vehicle remap, make only some of the areas remap - for example, the side parts of the hull between the hover cushions and the main fuselage in the middle - and then make the main fuselage a slightly darker shade of yellow (look at the colour of the Titan as example).

As for the hover cushions, try alternating the segment colour - instead of having a series of black segments separated by white lines, have a series of alternating black and dark grey segments. You might also try making all the segments dark grey too, just to see how it looks - the pure black at the moment absorbs too much light.

Another alternative would be to add dark grey horisontal lines to each segment, so that it creates an alternating black/grey/black/grey/... pattern from top to bottom. This might prevent the simple black from being too overwhelming.

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Hassan_2030
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:24 am    Post subject: Not the whole vehicle is a remap! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The remap is just on the side and the rest is really yellow!
And it reminds you of Renegade, because thats the
way I wanted it to look like!
But you all are right that the colours need some improvement!



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Askhati
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ah, excellent. Still - darker yellow. Try using the shade of yellow that the Wolverine has on its chest in the screenshot above. Either that, or darken the normals alot - not sure how to do that, so I'd advise the recolouring of the voxels themselves.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:23 pm    Post subject: Here comes the second version. Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have made it darker and I have used another
colour for the back instead of the black!



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Ah, excellent


*slaps face*

Honestly, there are a billion times better voxels out there and you dare call this excellent? The Allied hovercraft voxel was already hideous in its own right and this guy has managed to make it worse. I know you're just starting, but there's no point in uploading these as I'm sure no one will use them. Keep learning, look at other people's work (what colours to use, how to add normals etc.) and some day you just might make voxels worth it.

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Hassan_2030
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:51 pm    Post subject: I wanted to make it useable in TS as GDI unit! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

#Mad #Mad #Mad Exclamation

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

its pretty good for a recolor. i think its funny the cameo is 10 times better though.

A recolor is a recolor. I do not know how much better you can make this. I think its just below average.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

@ Crimsonum:
My "Ah, excellent" was referring to the fact that despite being a recolour and despite being slightly too bright, in the first screenshot the voxel actually fits in pretty well with all the other GDI units. ESPECIALLY if you consider it is an RA2 recolour. Being anal about his obvious newbie status is not helping anyone.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Being anal about his obvious newbie status is not helping anyone.


Far from "being anal". No, it doesn't fit pretty well with the other units. Well, maybe with the hideously bright Engineer. Using bright yellow and black together couldn't look worse.

The body needs to be a lot darker. Instead of using colours from the yellow bar, the brown1 and 2 colours (right next to the yellow bar) are best for a GDI scheme. If you want to make it look more like the Renegade Hovercraft, you need to start it from scratch. The RA2 hovercraft looks nothing like it.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:56 am    Post subject: You didn´t get it anyway Crimsonum! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don´t want to build a Renegade Hovercraft,
I only want to make a GDI version of the Allied-
Hovercraft with a colourscheme like from Renegade!!!!!
Nothing else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So please give me a tip for this OK!?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah , Crimsonum , stop being so hard on him . It just needs some color fixing :/

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Crimsonum
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The original voxel needed colour fixing >_>

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Rico
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

tomorrow when I have time I'll do a quick recolour to show Hassan what your trying to say Crimson.
Some people need to be shown.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Crimsonum isn't being harsh, he's just telling the truth. Would you rather someone said a load of bullshit about your work rather than truthful comments so you can actually improve?

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Rico
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Aro wrote:
Crimsonum isn't being harsh, he's just telling the truth. Would you rather someone said a load of bullshit about your work rather than truthful comments so you can actually improve?

Idk if you were speaking to me, but while yes Crimsonum is telling the truth, giving a simple example of what he means would go a long way in showing Hassan what he means, which makes it more constructive. Atleast IMO.

I'll give an example within 30 mins - 1hr

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Rico
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here you go, cant be bothered to check ingame so you can have a look, but should be better.
It's only a quick job but should show how a few tones darker or lighter can look better, and never use black it looks awful in the game.
Could someone get it ingame and show me how it looks Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Rico
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The point was to show the fella how different tones can give highlights without being too big of a contrast Wink

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Crimsonum
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's still rather bright. I use mostly colours #149-151 (and sometimes 147-153) as GDI scheme.

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Rico
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

actually if I worked on the normals itd probably improve it more. As I said a quick job, and the colour fit reasonably well imo (tho the exact shades are upto the person), as I said its about showing how mixing the shades can highlight parts without bad contrasts and not to use black.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, shades are important. Btw, those gold stripes on the black rubber bottom don't look too good.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Aro wrote:
Crimsonum isn't being harsh, he's just telling the truth. Would you rather someone said a load of bullshit about your work rather than truthful comments so you can actually improve?


Haha , you got it wrong . Yeah , criticism is important , but he doesn't have to say "The Allied hovercraft voxel was already hideous in its own right and this guy has managed to make it worse" it's really demotivating him you know , You can just say : It's a nice try , but I think it's poorly done :/

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Why do people always leave out the rest of the quote? I'm just saying that if people don't listen to comments like these from people whom are better than they are then how are people going to get better?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yep , I know . What I meant was , to not be so ... rude ? (:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:41 pm    Post subject:  Yeah thats helpfull!!!!! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thats what I wanted all the time, thanks a lot Exclamation
Thats the way I wanted the Hover APC to look like! Embarassed

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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It's a nice try , but I think it's poorly done :/


That too can be interpretated as demotivating. I said how things were. No need to add flowers and smileys when the message has been delivered simple and short. Yes, maybe I could've put it more politely, but I guess the above posts got on my nerves too much.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:12 pm    Post subject:  Ok I have put some work in it!!! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have made shades on it and it also has a
darker remap now!
I hope this is better Exclamation Question



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

"Look's like overtime!" - Technician, Tiberian Sun, circa 1999, RIP (Died whilst running around in Tiberium)

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject:  What do you mean and why??? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Surprised Surprised Surprised

P.S. Tiberian mutants live longer!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

...guys,ever heard of colorschemes?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:49 pm    Post subject:  Could someone give me a tip for the back!!! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

There you go! That's already looking much nicer, but the blue scheme on the turbines doesn't look very good with the gold. Change their color to gold like the rest of the boat, black to match the rubber base or silver so they still stand out but don't look bad with the rest of the voxel.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Crimsonum wrote:
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It's a nice try , but I think it's poorly done :/


That too can be interpretated as demotivating. I said how things were. No need to add flowers and smileys when the message has been delivered simple and short. Yes, maybe I could've put it more politely, but I guess the above posts got on my nerves too much.


Haha , I understand (:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Aro wrote:
There you go! That's already looking much nicer, but the blue scheme on the turbines doesn't look very good with the gold. Change their color to gold like the rest of the boat, black to match the rubber base or silver so they still stand out but don't look bad with the rest of the voxel.

Could also do with a slight downscaling.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:53 am    Post subject: AAAAAAH Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

you guy's don't know that doing voxel's is a shit hard work,what hassan dosen't know is that you can easily change the texture or use the colour scheme script to change the allied--> yellow or brick or something like that.

now go die and say sorry

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Recolours are all well and good, and allow new voxelists to become accustomed to VXLSE.
On the other hand, they aren't particularly imaginative.
It is my opinion that to become a better voxelist, it is paramount that you learn:
    -how to reason in 3 dimensions
    -to understand how voxels will look ingame without constantly having to check
    -creativity to the point of insanity


Without these three things; Skill, Understanding, Creativity, you cannot become a reasonable voxel artist.


Also, Dark Templar X and Aro's comments are correct, and our guest Apecolar is a moron.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The hovercrafts from the last pic seems too dark for me,it's more a building color than an unit color (but since there are no units/buildings near in the latest pics to check,maybe I'm wrong)

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:49 pm    Post subject:  Colour of the turbines??? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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but the blue scheme on the turbines doesn't look very good


That is my problem, I really don´t know which colour
to choose for them!
What do you think of brown to set a highlight on the
turbines!?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Just choose a few shades below, like I did with the examples I uploaded, download it and see how many shades difference there is and compare and try it out.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:00 pm    Post subject:  And the turbines??? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Rolling Eyes Question

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

if ur talking about inside the engine casings, gray

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:22 pm    Post subject:  Äh no, I mean the outside!!! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I thought about using brown for this, but I am not sure!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here, upto you if you want it or not.



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Hassan_2030
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Joined: 26 Feb 2010
Location: Inside my temple in Cairo.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: OK and my question? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have asked you if brown would be good for the
engines outside!?

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Rico
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

and I replyed with the unit having brown engine outsides, so that would be a yes lol, as long as its not too dark.

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