As mentioned in another thread:

1. Nod needs the Obelisk of Darkness, their SAM sites suck...(and no one say just camp 500 rocket squads in your base because I want reliable base defense not units in my base. )

Well the SAM Sites clutter my base and they do not do enough damage unless they got the Tiberium Warheads. Obelisk of Darkness is perfectly reasonable, it is a 1 spot structure thats strong, and only fires at air units, it has a slower ROF, but packs more punch. The cost should be the same as the exisiting Obelisk of Light.

1. I would rather have just the Obelisk of Darkness than than the SAM sites, SAM Sites are over rated anyways... -.-

5. Black Hand troops are strong vs. infantry and structures, and they clear garrisons.
Grenadiers are strong vs. infantry and structures, and they clear garrisons.
Do you see a difference that needs to be adjusted?

10. It isn't the Scrin way. Just think about the campaign. The "person" with the deeper voice (sorry, couldn't explain any better) orders the foremen to get as much information on Kane as possible, because the mission is expendable. The foremen ignores orders and salvages the mission. Nuff said.

I thought the Juggernaught AA was realism? Is it actually a bug?

I disagree. Black Hand troops and Grenadiers do about the same damage IMO.

My point was that the foremen completely ignored orders when told to suicide the mission to obtain more information on Kane.

Assuming the clutter issue was that big a deal, one could mod the SAM site into a singular defence rather than a node-hub setup and then adjust the damage accordingly. That still solves the problem without the hassle of modelling, texturing, and rigging a whole new friggin ingame object.

Valherran you say the whole point of modding is to add or to change, but you seem to be ignoring any potential changes to the SAM site that could save the trouble of having to make an obelisk from scratch. I'll ask again, do you honestly, seriously want the SAM site to be fixed or do you just want a whole new defence that pretty much does the same thing even if it means thrashing the SAM site rather than fixing it? You can't argue that the Obelisk of Darkness doesn't do the same thing because so far all your descriptions of the obelisk depicts it as a SAM Site with all the issues and problems fixed.

An Obelisk firing on aircraft. That's a bit ridiculous. Is this C&C4? Perhaps nod is now borrowing from the Scrin's methodology?

Why not just retool the existing sam sites to do their job efficiently.

and that a bunch of Firestorm material made it's way into the game but not some of the key stuff like the Obelisk of Darkness and the Core Defender.

That's not a very valid argument, considering both the Obelisk and Core Defender were hideously OP and specially designed for campaign. The FS stuff that Carnius brought in were stuff that was actually playable in-game. Also only the Cyborg Reaper and mobile stealth generator are in Essence. That's not a lot of FS stuff to begin with if you ask me.

if you can find a modder willing to do the stuff for that dump mod, by all means...

The reason why mods stop taking in new ideas is because everything's got to have a limit or threshold somewhere, if you continue to keep adding stuff it just gets bloated and that becomes a turn-off. Carnius has given tons and tons of stuff to Essence already, and I daresay the threshold has been reached for units.

The reason why mods stop taking in new ideas is because everything's got to have a limit or threshold somewhere, if you continue to keep adding stuff it just gets bloated and that becomes a turn-off. Carnius has given tons and tons of stuff to Essence already, and I daresay the threshold has been reached for units.

They die way too damn easily from that.

They die way too damn easily from that.

For example, imagine what would happen if you had a map where the only way to access your enemy on the ground is through a massive red field.

Thanks for your feedback Carnius.
About the stuff you disagree with. I can live without any of those (in fact, a large I either was neutral or against), except the red tiberium. I read the lack of resources discussion and thought this might solve it. That and IMO it would be very interesting to have a tiberium type that everybody rushes more for and fights more for, while its volatility and explosive power is worse than blue. Adding on to that, the vehical damaging effect would make for some very interesting fights. For example, imagine what would happen if you had a map where the only way to access your enemy on the ground is through a massive red field.

Black Hand are made to fight inf, so why make them immune to crush? Zone Troopers and Shock Troopers are immune to crush because they are heavy anti-vehicle units. It's a bit silly if heavy (and expensive) anti-vehicle units are crushed by the units they are supposed to counter.

Why should they get all the bad-ass heavy units that can't be crushed? Besides it is unique to have a heavy anti-infantry unit, and since it is one of the most expensive infantry they got, it seems pretty fair to have this. The upgrade can be expensive to give more balance, say like 2-3k?

What I'm saying is that your ideas could easily be done to the blue Tiberium rather than have a whole new Tiberium just for it, precisely because you're adding in something that is so similar, when there already IS something else that is so similar (blue tiberium).

Yes, Tiberium is Tiberium. It's precisely why there shouldn't be so many different types, because they're more or less the same thing just with different colours and mineral values. If the addition of one or two features justifies making entirely new strains of Tiberium, then GDI could have 3 or 4 different MBTs with a cannon and one or two differing abilities. It's just plain unnecessary to have the features present in a whole new unit.

Again your initial claim was that you want to solve the existing resources problem. Assuming that was directly your intention, and not to see red crystals in the game, the issue could be fixed by tweaking green tiberium values. You add in red tiberium and I gurantee the problem gets even harder to solve. Every single official map would have to be rehauled to have the new red tiberium in, and then playtested for economic balance.

Why should they get all the bad-ass heavy units that can't be crushed?

Wait a moment, what about cyborgs, they are exactly what you want black hands to be, heavy anti infantry unit, uncrushable by small vehicles, you see Nod got such bad-ass unit you talk about already and doesnt need more.