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I broke my AI
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Nikademis Von Hisson
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 6:44 am    Post subject:  I broke my AI
Subject description: It's not broken anymore, but.....
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Now I was trying to convert my AIMD file for someone, when I ran into a problem. The Hard AI works perfect, but easy and normal all they do is build buildings. I have a few things saved as info on what the numbers do, but I can't see any problems. Can anyone give me where I should be looking for a solution.

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Eldrei
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Upload your aimd.ini and rulesmd.ini. If you want to look for solution go to ModEnc.

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Dutchygamer
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Most likely you don't have enough teams with IsBaseDefense=yes for the values declared in MinimumAIDefensiveTeams. The values in this tag are in order of Hard, Medium, Easy.

The reason the AI only build it's base when you don't have enough teams is the AI always builds teams with IsBaseDefense=yes first until it has the minimum amount declared in MinimumAIDefensiveTeams. Only when this is met, the it will start producing normal teams.

I hope this solved your problem Wink

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High Templar X
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I just normally slap no on UseMinDefenseRule and I think you get around that. I know my Soviet AI does since I only have one defense trigger and MinimumAIDefensiveTeams is set to 4.

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Nikademis Von Hisson
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 8:30 am    Post subject: AI Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the input on that Dutchygamer and High Templar X, I will have to look into those points. The hard enemy is crazy, playing against 4 AI is a challenge, but the easy and normal are broken.


Current listing:

;-RTO
MinimumAIDefensiveTeams=1,1,1 ; (by difficulty level, from hardest to easiest)
MaximumAIDefensiveTeams=3,3,3 ; " "
TotalAITeamCap=200,200,200 ; (by difficulty level, from hardest to easiest)
UseMinDefenseRule=yes
DissolveUnfilledTeamDelay=50 ; how long to wait before dissolving an ai trigger team that has no members (multiplay only)

are the min and max numbers ok? For hard it seems ok, I have seen them build 4 base defense teams and they work fine.

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Dutchygamer
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

High Templar X wrote:
I just normally slap no on UseMinDefenseRule and I think you get around that. I know my Soviet AI does since I only have one defense trigger and MinimumAIDefensiveTeams is set to 4.

I recently discovered this too. This way, you can make the AI defend a little bit better, and obey prerequisites (as long as you have the correct triggers).

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Nikademis Von Hisson
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:04 pm    Post subject: Its not broken any more Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

High Templar X wrote:
I just normally slap no on UseMinDefenseRule and I think you get around that. I know my Soviet AI does since I only have one defense trigger and MinimumAIDefensiveTeams is set to 4.


Holy S**T!!!.............I changed it to no and damn I don't know whats worse playing 4 Hard AI or 4 Easy AI, I just had a serious battle to test out the change and WOW, it was rough. My AI sends in fighter planes pretty good, but now on easy it was a total cluster f***. I didn't know where to defend first, my AI is now totally disgusting.

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

AI difficulty settings are backwards in RA2/YR, One of WW's proud achievements (screw ups) Razz

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Nikademis Von Hisson
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 12:20 pm    Post subject: AI Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I just got smoked in 10 minutes 2 hard and 2 easy AI. I think I need to tone down my AI, plus I have to adjust the map I just played on needs more obstacles so the AI or player can't rush and attack so easy.

And the AI still ignores the prerequisite tags on my bombers. I think I have to look into my tags a little more to see whats what.

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If you c/p them from the Harrier Teams, it's most likely that AutoCreate is still on yes, which (as the names says) makes the AI automatic create this team Wink

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Nikademis Von Hisson
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: bombers Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

well i had 3 teamtypes, but now its down to 2, and yes 1 of the teamtypes did have yes on auto, odd though

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Nikademis Von Hisson
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:10 pm    Post subject: AI Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, I set it to no and ran it through a multiplayer map test. Everything works except for 1 thing now, they don't build base defenses (pillbox, guard towers, and anti air craft guns). I know it is because of the rules section. So is there any work around on this?

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