Pre-Release Soviet Construction Yard

Dasfonia

This is all my work and Westwood Studio's/EA's. Please give my credit to both of us!!!! This is my finished product. Very Happy

Sorry no pictures.

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SMIFFGIG · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:15 pm Post subject:

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

So basically all I see is a Mirrored image and you want people to credit you for that? Come on man! you gotto do more than just that.

and shouldnt this be in media hut?

OmegaBolt · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject:

Well by the looks of it he also reversed the lighting however he didnt remake the grey onion dome or anything.

Speeder · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2004 **Location**: Czechia

Yar, and without buildup it isn't that much of a deal.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

not to mention, it's really no good without the reversed "Mirrored" anims either. Wink

Dasfonia · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject:

Yeah I had to do a lot of re-lighting. You guys are also acting like I'm missing the animations I clearly said that there wasn't anything besides the base frames. I spent all this hard work and you are saying this is worrthless what I did was had. FYI I made the beta Conyard which had the gold dome instead of the "Grey" one. If you want the Alpha version make it your self.

m7 · Commander **Joined**: 17 Apr 2009

And he called Mooman's buildings shitty. LOL

This thing has some way to go.

Dasfonia · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:03 pm Post subject:

Okay tell me what is wrong with mine? @Speeder BrianPrime is doing the build up, not for me but he is though. This is something I thought I would do for fun and release I have never seen someone do this before other then those noobs that just "mirror" it in Paint and then go say "look i did pre-relise buildign"

wardeathfun · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject:

Let me guess, instead of doing it the noob way and used paint, you did it the pro way and di the exact same thing in photoshop? ._.

Dasfonia · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:38 pm Post subject:

I used paint. Still got epic results though. I do have PS CS5 -__-

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Atari2600 · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:58 pm Post subject:

So, you want a cookie or something?

It doesn't mean much without the anims or buildup. Your time would be better spent duplicating this as a 3d object, then converting.

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Dasfonia · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject:

I can't do that stuff. I'm only good at copying and or recreating with paint.

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Dasfonia · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:01 pm Post subject:

Well thanks for all your critizism and help though Very Happy

I would like to know what I could have done better #Tongue

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

What you've done isnt bad, it's just that in it's current state it's useless. You should have waited until you had some anims and a buildup before posting this as a download. I mean think about it, what good what it do to put this into game without them.

Dasfonia · Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:57 am Post subject:

Well someone could use them to make something useful out of them, ehh?

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Symphonic · Tiberian Fiend **Joined**: 06 Jan 2009

m7 wrote:

And he called Mooman's buildings shitty. LOL

This thing has some way to go.

That was me, not Das who called Mooman's buildings shitty.

-BrianPrime

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

just out of curiousity, what makes it a Pre-Release? I'm not sure I understand this. Cause in a side by side comparison it looks identical to the one already in RA2?

if you look at the pic I took the existing one from RA2 and mirrored it, then redid the symbol and I see no difference.

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MT · Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:05 am Post subject:

Sorry Dasfonia I'd have to agree with Cranium here - even his quickly done version looks better done than yours I believe.

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That was me, not Das who called Mooman's buildings shitty.

Dasfonia did call them shitty in Another Thread. You could have said it too, but it doesn't change what Das said.

High Templar X · Cyborg Firebomber **Joined**: 26 Apr 2010

I detest people who post incomplete work and then proceed to call someone else's completed work shitty. Just makes them look like a dick.

Wait a second...

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Eldrei · Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:41 am Post subject:

That SHP seems familiar to me... Confused

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Dasfonia · Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:19 pm Post subject:

Cranium did not indeed quick take this from RA2 he used mine. And I will post whats different in a bit I will circle all your disbeliefs that mine is just a simple flip. ALSO am I not allowed to show my fu***** opinion?! I said his were shit because that's MYYYYYY opinion. Jesus Christ.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

no,no, you miss understood me I'm not downing your work at all. I want to know what makes a particular building a pre-release, I mean what differs from a pre-release to a already ingame one. And your right I did post the wrong pic, those are both your base units with just different fronts, i'll post the other one to show what I was talking about.

Dasfonia · Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:39 pm Post subject:

Okay thanks. ALSO, do you guys remember the pre-release Tesla Coil that BrianPrime did? If so I am doing a BUILD-UP for it! Very Happy

Something useful! #Tongue

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Revolutionary · Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:58 pm Post subject:

Cranium wrote:

I mean what differs from a pre-release to a already ingame one..

the graphics were different in the beta tests/pictures from the final game.
the Beta conyard; the one never shiped with the game (except via the destruction animation), faced a different way (like the war factorys and refinarys)

@Dasfonia I forgot you were here and yes i have done some work #Tongue

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

@Revolutionary, thanks, thats the answer I was looking for.

Dasfonia · Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:30 pm Post subject:

Here I will show all the differences with this picture

But basically the lighting/shadows were different and the facings.

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Dasfonia · Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:32 pm Post subject:

Revolutionary get on XFire please. I finished the light post buildup for you.

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wardeathfun · Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:25 am Post subject:

They look the same to me :/

Mig Eater · Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:46 am Post subject:

Besides from the lighting on the brick work they are the same & IMO the flipped looks better.

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Dasfonia · Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:40 pm Post subject:

Besides the point as to why I did this was to recreate the beta/pre-release construction yard to the exact way it was, and I did that. The point was NOT to create it the way I want or the way you wanted it. So if you are not happy with the way it was made then that sucks for you. #Tongue

@Mig Eater what do you mean by "the flipped"

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Allied General · Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:25 pm Post subject:

Dasfonia wrote:

Besides the point as to why I did this was to recreate the beta/pre-release construction yard to the exact way it was, and I did (not do that because I forgot every animation and it must be very hard to copy and paste and use flip tools in graphic applications in fact I'm so lazy I not even check original art source) that.

This is useless, because the hardest bit of making buildings is the animations. No one is going to use this as a base because

1. CNP animations is a nightmare
2. If I can make those animations I am very very good either at 2d art from scratch or 3d rendering.

Also congratulations for posting in the wrong forum.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Is that a screeny from your mod AG?

m7 · Commander **Joined**: 17 Apr 2009

Wow. Really?

OmegaBolt · Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:06 pm Post subject:

Awesome.

Orac · Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:09 pm Post subject:

Cranium wrote:

Is that a screeny from your mod AG?

Looks to me like a screeny from Westwood's promotions...

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Ah, I see, Well I havent had the privilege of viewing many mods or promotions,PreRelease stuff, and the like so I had no idea.

m7 · Commander **Joined**: 17 Apr 2009

You should probably take a stroll through PPM's RA2 beta archive, as well as CnC Guild and Freedom so you can identify mods and beta screenshots.

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

yea, I've been meaning too, but so darn busy on other more important stuff. Maybe this weekend coming up I'll take a stroll thru memory lane. Razz

But then if thats an ingame shot, dosent that mean that the structure already exists?, or is it stuck in a closet over at EA hidden behind the red tape?

m7 · Commander **Joined**: 17 Apr 2009

Or it's a beta screenshot showing thrown-away designs for the Soviets. -_-''

Allied General · Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:30 am Post subject:

The majority of beta images for cnc games westwood era were heavily PS enhanced.

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Dasfonia · Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:29 pm Post subject:

That image is from the alpha build of Red Alert 2 it was still when they photoshoped the snow onto the buildings. And these pictures were teasers. Also if you notice that the crane in the alpha picture that conyard is completely different from the beta version, the crane is smaller, there is more remap, and the onion dome is obviously a different color. Cranium you were doing all that commenting with out even knowing what the beta construction yard even looked llike? Or am I wrong?

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Dasfonia wrote:

Cranium you were doing all that commenting with out even knowing what the beta construction yard even looked llike? Or am I wrong?

Like I said I havent seen to many pre-Release stuff, however it still dosent change the fact that this isnt worth much without the rest of the "whole" package. So wether I've seen the actual image of it or not really dosent matter.
I also said your work looks good and that I'm not downing your work at all. But if someone has to do all the rest of the work as far as the anims and stuff why wouldnt they just make the base themselves as well? because thats the easiest part of the whole process.

Dasfonia · Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:39 pm Post subject:

Well anyway this was originally going to be for my use only then when I got close to finishing the construction yard I figured well someone could use this maybe so I released this instead of what most people do is just leave it lying around on there computer doing nothing. So does that explain why I released it?
@Cranium I am completely well aware that you are not saying my work is bad >: D

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