Global Liberation Army

Mig Eater · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject: Global Liberation Army

I've started a project to recreate all the GLA buildings & units for RA2, which will be released as an graphics pack, I'll probably make an open source mod as well to test them all.

However it's not possible to recreate everything as it is in Gen/ZH so I'm wondering what would be good alternatives? Things like the supply stash, should I modify the design to use cargo trucks or make something like the slave miner?

Is a power plant necessary? I'm unsure if the AI will have problems if they can't build any.

Should the radar van be a deployable unit or just replace it with a new fixed building?

The tunnel network isn't possible so what would be a good replacement, bunker, trenches or just a machine gun nest etc?

Any other thoughts or suggestions are welcome too. In the future I'll use this topic to post updates/pics & to start with here is the Command Center...

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The original concept for the GLA supply stash was using cargo trucks!!!

P.S. If you take a look at the second pic, then you would see that the GLA origanally had a power plant!!!

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Speeder · Commander **Joined**: 03 Sep 2004 **Location**: Czechia

Looks good. I think radar should be provided by a deployable Radar Van, possibly using Slave Miner hacks to work as a prerequisite even in mobile mode.

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FurryQueen · General **Joined**: 24 Jul 2010 **Location**: Liyue

Make up a power plant... would be interesting to see what you design, Mig. Though, you could always use the Black Market as sort of a power plant instead of additional tech.

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Mig Eater · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject:

I'd been so focused on the in game graphics I completely forgot about the beta & concept stuff XD. Well I found a hi-res version of that power plant pic & also some concept art, so I'll mix them up & see how it turns out!

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I have Alpha Build 98 if you can't find it. Theres a lot of old beta crap in here, including some Khan stuff.

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Volgin wrote:

I have Alpha Build 98 if you can't find it. Theres a lot of old beta crap in here, including some Khan stuff.

Can you hook me up with that? I've been looking all over for it.

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Hassan_2030 · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject:

I am interested in this stuff too, would you mind sharing it with me too!?

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Untrue · Jumpjet Infantry **Joined**: 16 Sep 2010

Excellent idea, Mig. Can't wait for it.

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Yuri Legends · Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:59 am Post subject:

Not bad. Keep up the good work! Wink

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ArvinCool · Tiberian Beast **Joined**: 01 Jun 2008

that building need more sharpness

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Comr4de · Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:50 am Post subject:

Generals Alpha Build,

http://www.deezire.net/forums/generals-zero-hour-editing/7060-orginal-c-c-generals-alpha-build98-released.html

Have fun!

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Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

Looking really good. The defences for GLA could have the ability to undeploy into mobile vehicles. I'd also expect them to make a good use of garrisoning and camoflauging.

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Deformat · Defense Minister **Joined**: 17 Sep 2007

TBH IIRC You can have tunnel logic working....iirc.

DaFool · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006

A bunker with a small gun seems fitting enough.

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Mig Eater · Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:30 pm Post subject:

Garrisonable buildings can't have a weapon tho so it's one or the other...

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:11 pm Post subject:

Maybe just make a lot of their normal buildings garrisonable, as some kind of special faction ability? Maybe a spawn bunker power (if you're using Ares)?

Allied General · Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject:

I'm really hoping custom pals used, wouldn't want engine limitations ruining the graphics and great idea =)

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Dragon Prime · Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:52 pm Post subject:

Maybe Mig you can play a Chinese Yuri Mod named Zero Hour 2.0,some of its design is really good and it even make the ZH upgrade system come ture! I use mobile phone to reply this topic so I just can give you the link the other day,sorry....... Sad

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Darkstorm · Commander **Joined**: 20 Jan 2008 **Location**: Texas

You could use Ares' repairable rubble system to replicate the GLA hole feature.

The Radar Van should be deployable but you should also do a radar building just in case people don't want to get rid of their Slave Miner.

Mig Eater · Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject:

Well I had a go at the power plant, I'm not completely happy with it, but after trying a dozen different layouts this seamed the best...

I also converted most of the unit from the W3D files into voxel (darkened & edited a bit tho), I'm undecided if I'll just release them or redo all the units from scratch... I'll use them for now as place holders tho.

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hotrods20 · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2009

I like the look of that power plant. I hope this is finished. Keep up the good work and such.

Orac · Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:02 pm Post subject:

Are those cylinders the smoke stacks? There seems to be a lack of contrast on them, making it difficult to tell.

Great idea, btw.

DaFool · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Nov 2006

decided not to go with a wind turbine?

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hotrods20 · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2009

I have an idea, just don't have any GLA buildings take up power. Oh wait it is already like that. Unless it makes it really unbalanced for them not to have power needs.

Revolutionary · Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:09 pm Post subject:

I take it you based it on the other Beta power plant then, i must admit that fits in realy quite well (the new skin you used actualy makes me when to reskin the generals version and use it for the GLA in generals, so much better than the original)

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Regulus · Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:26 pm Post subject:

I assume you rendered WITH textures right? #Tongue

I would love to know ho you made all of that stuff come out so well.

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Mig Eater · Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:04 pm Post subject:

I made them all with photoshop, so I didn't use any "textures" #Tongue

TBH now that I got hold of the alpha files I'm tempted to make the original wind turbine version, the one above was based on the concept art.

I've been told that the AI works fine without power plants tho so I didn't even need to make one anyway!

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4StarGeneral · General **Joined**: 14 Sep 2006 **Location**: Limbo

Now how did I miss this? Excellent job on those GLA replicas, and no textures? I applaud your hard work.

Also, you might want to still work on the tunnel network. The bugtracker already has it Issue# 0000194, so it could possibly be in a future version. Though if you don't want to need Ares, you could just make a machine gun nest cloaked beneath the same type as the missile trooper nest.

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FurryQueen · General **Joined**: 24 Jul 2010 **Location**: Liyue

Do both. I like the one you just did. It's awesome. :3

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Darkstorm · Commander **Joined**: 20 Jan 2008 **Location**: Texas

^ agreed.

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

you could always use the center structure of the scudstorm for the gla power. seems like it may fit well for a power structure.

Nice job on those buildings btw.

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SSTG · Rocket Cyborg **Joined**: 19 Nov 2007

these buildings look promising even could be used for desert maps

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Hostile · Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:36 am Post subject:

Why not a stealthed GLA bunker not unlike the Chinese Bunker? Let's be honest GLA would logically make the most use of a garrisonable bunker.

I never understood why they gave that to the Chinese. I always pictured sending a few workers off in any direction to build stealthed little "cave holes" that would be awesome at hiding hit and run units.

Say maybe 3 infantry or one technical, something along those lines...

The boring part is USA always has the stealth detecting stuff. It would be kinda realistic to have a level of stealth that is simply undetectable unless fired from regardless of USA stealth detection. All the satellites in the world are not going to locate a human stuffed into a hole in the ground.

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Nikademis Von Hisson · Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:56 pm Post subject: tunnels

Deformat wrote:

TBH IIRC You can have tunnel logic working....iirc.

If memory serves me correct, I think Cranium had this working in his mod.

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Regulus · Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:16 pm Post subject:

For supplies, you could always have the vehicle back into a building and unload just like a harvester. I was also thinking that you could use crates that vehicles picked up and placed on themselves instead of harvesting it like ore. Purely visual, but interesting.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Hey Mig, I dont know if you've made a barracks for your GLA yet. But I came across this model in the Generals .w3d folder and thought it would make a good barracks. Though it would definitly need your photoshop magic stuff you do to make it match texture wise. Razz

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Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

That's one of the big civilian buildings, and it's really strange to see it that small #Tongue

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Comr4de · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:15 pm Post subject:

Crimsonum wrote:

That's one of the big civilian buildings, and it's really strange to see it that small #Tongue

And being a barracks...
It doesn't fit well enough to my opinion xD

Volgin · Commander **Joined**: 07 Mar 2009

iirc its used as Saddam Hussein's palace in Baghdad in the first US mission, but it could be a mosque. Either way, it isn't a barracks.

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FurryQueen · General **Joined**: 24 Jul 2010 **Location**: Liyue

Cranium wrote:

Hey Mig, I dont know if you've made a barracks for your GLA yet. But I came across this model in the Generals .w3d folder and thought it would make a good barracks. Though it would definitly need your photoshop magic stuff you do to make it match texture wise. Razz

Looks more like a palace honestly... not so much a barracks.

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Untrue · Jumpjet Infantry **Joined**: 16 Sep 2010

It's the palace from the 1st US mission.

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Alex06 · Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:58 am Post subject:

Why not use the actual GLA barracks model for the barracks?

Mig Eater · Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:34 pm Post subject:

Bit of a bump but I'm still working on this! I hope to have it done some time this summer.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

cool shit mig, cant wait to see the end results Cool

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MRMIdAS · Energy Commando **Joined**: 17 Jul 2008

Just for the record, if the AI doesn't have buildings that need power, it works fine without power plants.

I recall a futuristic TC which had a side that didn't need power, the AI seemed fine, although I don't know if they used any trickery to get it to work.

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