Patrol Boat [RA2]

Atari2600

I've been working on a small patrol boat for the past few days. The hull shape is that of the Scorpion, but the end result is to produce a patrol boat for the Allies.

However, I'm not happy with the general structure I have come up with so far... I can't figure out how exactly I will tackle putting the intended main weapon on this thing: a simple machine gun. I can't decide if it should go on the bow, or on top of the pilothouse.

Also, it ended up looking far too much like the tugboat, so I want to get rid of the smokestack...
I realize that I'm being every indecisive right now

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*sigh* well, atleast I got rid of the white frames

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Shakar · Cyborg Cannon **Joined**: 04 Jan 2008 **Location**: Places

Perhaps change the smokestack into a slanting face maybe, and/or move the structure back a bit and place a small gun battery in the front.

My opinion at least.

Atari2600 · Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:02 am Post subject:

Alright, I moved the pilot house back a bit. Then I took a cue from the Allied Destroyer and painted it white. I also added a spot light into the gun, at the suggestion of a friend of mine.

It still doesn't feel right. Something is missing, and I can't figure out what...

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Orac · Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:03 am Post subject:

Try adding something mechanical looking to the back, like engine housing or something.. It looks a little empty back there.

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

or maybe a couple of cargo boxes or ammo boxes.

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Atari2600 · Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:00 am Post subject:

How about a pair of mufflers? The end vision is a speedy little boat with low firepower, good sensors, and good sight.

An exposed engine would not be a good idea, imo.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

yeah, that looks better Smile

"you should use vxl viewer to do 360 gifs, cuts out the blinking.

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Tyler Adams · Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:16 am Post subject:

Could add a set of torpedo racks on the side, ala

perhaps? Alternately, could add some missile racks on the back. Would make it more of a multipurpose everything unit, can do everything an Aegis cruiser and a destroyer can, but MASSIVELY sucks at anything other than killing infantry or scouting.

Aswell, I'd suggest adding a mast like the destroyer.

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Atari2600 · Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:56 am Post subject:

Tyler Adams wrote:

Could add a set of torpedo racks on the side, ala
perhaps? Alternately, could add some missile racks on the back. Would make it more of a multipurpose everything unit, can do everything an Aegis cruiser and a destroyer can, but MASSIVELY sucks at anything other than killing infantry or scouting.

Aswell, I'd suggest adding a mast like the destroyer.

No, Im not about to add any other weapons onto it. Its job is supposed to be taking down infantry, scouting, and providing light defense on the cheap.

However, I like your idea to put a mast on it. That's not a bad idea, Ill make a version with one.

*ten minutes later*

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Atari2600 · Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:43 pm Post subject:

*DOUBLE POST*
I took an ingame shot of it, and it looks terrible, I am not happy with it.

The pilot house glass looks funny from certain angles, as do the mufflers on the back. And I cant even make out what the spotlight is supposed to be from a distance. The gun is practically invisible, and the mast looks terrible...

I'm going to fix a great deal of this one. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

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e8xw3 · Civilian **Joined**: 02 Oct 2009

Seems you already have a turret in your model,
on the top of the boat there.
Just cut the boat off (and leave only turret) in VXL
editor, and save the turret separately, as the turret only. and use the name like boattur.vxl
Than just code you unit again with added tag Turret=yes

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Orac · Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:44 am Post subject:

I thought that turrets on boats were unhelpfully buggy?

Oh, hi there Oztronic... How's the total-hatred-of-the-community thing going?

Yuri Legends · Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:26 am Post subject:

@ Orac - It's Oztronix. Obviously his avatar is duck and his website is all about ducks.

Ontopic: Nice voxel. Patrolling...

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Atari2600 · Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:06 pm Post subject:

Orac wrote:

I thought that turrets on boats were unhelpfully buggy?

I also heard that. Thats why Im steering clear of them...

Yuri Legends wrote:

Ontopic: Nice voxel. Patrolling...

Thank you.

@Oztronix: If you cant say anything coherent, then dont say anything at all.
Lrn2Grammar

So I reworked the gun, and made it big enough to hopefully stand out better. I also removed the mast, and replaced the lighter glass colors with darker ones. And the spotlight was removed...

Again, feedback is appreciated.

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Darkstorm · Commander **Joined**: 20 Jan 2008 **Location**: Texas

I'd try a more lighter Allied-scheme color on the gun. From what I can see, the white drum stands out a lot but the dark gun is unseen.

Also, I'd consider adding more contrast to the cabin; it seems so... blank in-game.

One last issue, a minor one, is that it looks a little narrow.

Catto · Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:45 pm Post subject:

id say _003 version is spot on, anyhow if you have ever completed this would like to add this to allies naval arsenal.

G-E · Defense Minister **Joined**: 09 Feb 2015

Rule of thumb, look at real vehicles, get an idea of what they stick on them, detail yours similarly. I'd recommend averaging out the features you see, like if you often see liferafts on your type of ship, then perhaps add those, etc.

But really, just keep adding detail incrementally, and maybe revisit it in the future with fresh eyes.

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McPwny · Cyborg Artillery **Joined**: 29 Jan 2018

this is a massive necropost but i think he did it right the first time. those small details are going to make your units look like an aggregate pile of pencil shavings ingame.

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