Passable GoldenGate Bridge?

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Who likes the idea of me recreating the GoldenGate to be placed as buildings along side the bridges, yet still be passable? I've already started the process and if enough people are interested, I'll finish it up.

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Darkstorm · Commander **Joined**: 20 Jan 2008 **Location**: Texas

I find that to be a really good idea.

Nikademis Von Hisson · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:17 am Post subject:

VERY SEXY!!!! Your work never seems to disappoint me.

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Deformat · Defense Minister **Joined**: 17 Sep 2007

Interesting, yet it would be a bit more interesting if you made it fit the one in the first YR Allied/Soviet mission. #Tongue

SSTG · Rocket Cyborg **Joined**: 19 Nov 2007

I'm kinda hoping for public release would love to have soviet tanks or something roll down it in a map Very Happy

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comando · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 21 Apr 2008

Nice, it's a good idea. Civillian assest never enought Wink

wardeathfun · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:42 am Post subject:

like all your work, I would find it amazing :p being public makes it even better xD

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

yeah, this is for the public. Smile

Little more progress. Bridge Center. I'm gonna try to keep it as close as possible to fit in with RA2/YR. It will be sweet when its done.

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FurryQueen · General **Joined**: 24 Jul 2010 **Location**: Liyue

Neato. You going to get the entirety of the structure or will it be more of a golden gate themed bridge?

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Well, my goal is to get the entire thing together this way. I will also make the overlay bridge sides to look like goldengates sides too; like in the center piece posted above.

Here is a wip image to give somewhat of an idea of where i'm going with this. It still has a long ways to go and it's a pain in the butt.

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FurryQueen · General **Joined**: 24 Jul 2010 **Location**: Liyue

That's what I was asking so good job.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

This piece look alright?

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Palkia323 · Pyro Sniper **Joined**: 10 May 2008

The left side has wood sticking through the concrete.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Wood?, the Golden Gate Bridge dosent have or use any wood.

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Palkia323 · Pyro Sniper **Joined**: 10 May 2008

Okay, brown support thingies.

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Nikademis Von Hisson · Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:17 am Post subject:

what he is referring to is that you see the rock cliff on the left side of the bridgehead

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Palkia323 · Pyro Sniper **Joined**: 10 May 2008

No, not the rock, the metal shit under the concrete.

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Kcirevam · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:01 am Post subject:

He is referring to a small brown line seen through the sides of the concrete, the part which I think is supposed to hold the support beams to the concrete.

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Palkia323 · Pyro Sniper **Joined**: 10 May 2008

There ya go! Thanks for making that into english lol. I wasn't in such a great mood when i posted earlier. Sorry bout that.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

That orangish/brown line you see is where the fencing will be added, it's meant to be there.

Also I have to redo some stuff thanks to WW for doing a lousy job on some of the pieces. So will be a bit longer on this than anticipated. But I'm working on them right now.

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How it should have been, I suppose.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Got almost all the pieces done except for one. The other bridge head is all that is left, except i need to add some things to the center bridge head. Other than that, I just need to line them up and it'll be ready for you guys.

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Palkia323 · Pyro Sniper **Joined**: 10 May 2008

Looking VERY nice! Good Job man! Hope to see more awesome work like this from PPM. Very Happy

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:49 pm Post subject:

Shouldn't those be urban cliffs? Are they not in YR?

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

@Palkia323, Thanks. Glad you like it so far.

@OmegaBolt, It will have Temperate, Snow, and Urban settings when done.

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Palkia323 · Pyro Sniper **Joined**: 10 May 2008

I think you should make a few versions with different roads.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Starting to look like something. Still has alot of work to go, but progress is good so far.

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

This is awesome!

Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

Wow, impressive job. Surprised

How do you did this coding wise? Are the segments separate buildings placed left and right to the overlay bridge? Can units still pass under the bridge?

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

The way it's laid out at the moment, multi pieces, under bridge travel is not possible. However, when I attach the images together to only make 3 pieces per side instead of 10 per side, then yes under bridge travel will be possible.

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject:

Pretty sure you could make it a 0x0 building with a big animation (i.e. the bridge segments) so units would have no problem passing through.

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

actually was thinking 1x1 blank builings, with anims as the structures. at least for the center pieces. But they also might end up being Terrain Objects. Havent gotten that far yet.

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Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

Or give them all a 1x1 foundation and in rules.ini Bib=yes so they are passable (though only for vehicles).
Or maybe make them as a gate without a gate animation, so units can pass them as well.

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Starkku · Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:06 pm Post subject:

0x0 with anim *could* work but it would make them completely impervious to damage, since damage calculations against buildings are done using building's Foundation, and foundation of 0x0 buildings is obviously zero cells. That, and units/infantry/whatever could also move through the bridge support pillar thingy.

Oh well, I hope you find a way to get it right without any undesirable side effects.

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:33 pm Post subject:

Starkku wrote:

0x0 with anim *could* work but it would make them completely impervious to damage, since damage calculations against buildings are done using building's Foundation, and foundation of 0x0 buildings is obviously zero cells. That, and units/infantry/whatever could also move through the bridge support pillar thingy.

I've had 0x0 buildings be destroyed like normal if they don't have Immune=yes. They are still within the cell.

Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

yep, 1x1 Terrain Objects work perfectly. They allow passage over and under. They are undestroyable, but why would you want to destroy them anyway. They cant be rebuilt after they get destroyed. The middle bridge parts can be destroyed just not the GG parts. They can be made to be destroyed if user prefers it though, just have remove the LegalTarget=no and Immune=yes tags from the rulesmd.ini

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Palkia323 · Pyro Sniper **Joined**: 10 May 2008

I came.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Palkia323 wrote:

I came.

LOL, nice compliment Razz

But I think I have this figured out now, It's going to work perfectly. It is passable, can hide the units, can be destroyed if you want it too, and under bridge passable as well. Look for finished product by weeks end.

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SSTG · Rocket Cyborg **Joined**: 19 Nov 2007

Ohhh this will be fun to use

does this change any other bridges though? I remember hearing something about only having one bridge art in YR could be wrong though

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

The actual bridge itself will not change. Meaning the road the vehicles travel across. The end pieces that attach to the cliffs will change, but those can be added and used without messing anything up.
This project is driving me crazy though Laughing

I'm having a rough time getting it to merge right with the end pieces. But I almost got it. Other than a couple minor fixes that need to be done, what do you think about how it merges into the cliff/bridge piece?

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daTS · Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:05 am Post subject:

Looks damned good.

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Kcirevam · Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:08 am Post subject:

Shouldn't the bridge have water under it?, I mean it's really only one golden gate bridge, the last time I was there the water was eating the base of the middle part.

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

There was no water because it's in development stage, but here, is this better. Rolling Eyes

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Alright. it's done. Although there is a couple flaws in it, blame westwood for thier crappy modeling of the GGB, some things just couldnt be fixed. But it looks nice and you wont notice the flaws unless you stare at it anyway. Look good enough for you guys?

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SSTG · Rocket Cyborg **Joined**: 19 Nov 2007

can it be lengthened so it spans out similar to the real bridge like 2 of those tower parts on one bridge

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Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

^^I don't think so because it is asymmetric. The left part of the column to the cliff is much longer than the right one and for a 2 column GGB it would need the 2 sides mirrored, so the middle parts have the same length.

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SSTG · Rocket Cyborg **Joined**: 19 Nov 2007

Ah I see so for people who want to extend it longer would need a part which is similar to the tower part but has matching ends for the cables

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Scorched Earth · Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:23 pm Post subject:

Technically, you still could. It's close enough, besides, so many of the monuments in RA2 are so fucked up it doesn't matter anyway. #Tongue

Also, fantastic work!

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Cranium · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Dec 2009 **Location**: USA

Thanks for all the great feedback guys. But before I release this, I'm gonna make some adjustments. There will be Temp, sno, and urban editions.

@SSTG, I'll see if I can do something to enable longer bridge placements.

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Nikademis Von Hisson · Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:09 pm Post subject: bridge

Great work.....................you get 5 *****

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Kedde · Vehicle Driver **Joined**: 26 Apr 2008

Looks very awesome! Good job!