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MasterHaosis
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:37 pm    Post subject:  Detailed and remapable Arnold/Cyborg/Gattling Trooper
Subject description: Yes, finally you can normally using him, and he will change owner's color!
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O hai there again, mortals!
Here, it took me almost two days to do this, but I did it finally, just for you!
I did not recolor him, I added him new detailed cloth, by copy paste conscript's parts to him.
Yes, you heard right, I did it frame by frame, copying parts from Conscript's frame to his one, removing everything unecessery, which took hell of my time!
I hope you will appreciate it.
Only Mooman and few people did this similiar (Mooman, Geno and Apollo as far I know), and nobody release it public, so I will be the first one.
I present to you detailed and remapable ARND model, as some of you badly wished it. Normal one is without remap, he is black colored, so barely can be used, and yet again people used it.
So, I wanted to work on him to improve him. And my version has nothing to do with anyone's except in idea that this soldier can be remapable. he has different remapable parts from other versions in mods.
Well, I had to make it unique.
I hope you will like cameo too.
I do not need to remind you that Art and sequence is same as ARND model!



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DavyCrockett
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Go tell that to westwood :X.
Am gonna make a better one though, oh wait, maybe not.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nice work mate.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I love your art. Please don't stop making art.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That's pretty cool. Good for those who don't already have something to use.

The icon seems kinda silly, like it would be better for a hero than a generic infantryman.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well unit is fine I suppose.

The icon is the terminator in T4.

It might be useful to provide source image, no glass or text etc, so people can edit for their own mod style/Ares features (pcx or custom pal)

As for actual cameo - maybe the standard terminator from T1/T2 would be better or even Arnold if was heavily edited. (as the original unit was meant to mimic)

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PePsiCola
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's funny, I was actually using YR's Arnie for a gattling trooper already. This'll work even better, thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

DavyCrockett wrote:
You know that its called Gatling Gun, with one t.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatling_gun

But man why are you saying that to me cause everyone and Westwood and EA games is using with double t?
And you found me only to correct. I will still use it with double t


Kcirevam wrote:
Go tell that to westwood :X.

And to every single modder Very Happy

Kcirevam wrote:

Am gonna make a better one though, oh wait, maybe not.


I do not doubt that you will make another one Smile

Ixonoclast wrote:
Nice work mate.

Thanks man. I am glad that you like it Smile

hotrods20 wrote:
I love your art. Please don't stop making art.


Thanks man, I am glad that you like it too Very Happy
But I have to study soon, so no more shps, I suppose.
Or I am wrong Wink

FurryQueen wrote:
That's pretty cool. Good for those who don't already have something to use.

Thanks! Well you already have something to use! Mooman's Arnd replacement. I hate his boots which has same color as head, hands and skin, which makes him look like bootless. Also whole cloth including weapon is brick. Not fan of it, but it is kinda unique.

haha you can see massive recolor which made his grey boots and gattling gun similiar color to head and skin. But he put that backpack from flame trooper to him, as gattling ammunition storage. I do not have it cause I did not find this a need. And i was lazy for that.

FurryQueen wrote:

The icon seems kinda silly, like it would be better for a hero than a generic infantryman.

That icon is awesome! It is very in Yuri's style. Looks like one of clones holding gattling gun! Thats why I chose that icon

Allied General wrote:
Well unit is fine I suppose.

When you say to my work that it is fine, then it is special moment!
Thanks!

Allied General wrote:

The icon is the terminator in T4.

Damn you! Well ,it is true Smile
But form here it doesnot look like terminator, because I take care of that. It looke like clone, which was what I exactly wanted.

Allied General wrote:

It might be useful to provide source image, no glass or text etc, so people can edit for their own mod style/Ares features (pcx or custom pal)

Ah damnit, silly me, I forgot to make source image even for myself.
Anyway, it can be edited easily in Photoshop or GIMP.

Allied General wrote:

As for actual cameo - maybe the standard terminator from T1/T2 would be better or even Arnold if was heavily edited. (as the original unit was meant to mimic)

Well, I was thinking about that. Actually I was looking for that, but suddenly I found that T-600 image and decided to use it.

PePsiCola wrote:
It's funny, I was actually using YR's Arnie for a gattling trooper already. This'll work even better, thanks.

Oh thanks! Very Happy
But where the hell is Arnd on Yuris Revenge Argentina?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Studying sucks man. I have to go back to school next month, LOL. What are you studying? If it is German, I might not be able to help, LOL. Just please keep your art free and good. Don't give up in making art. You are extremely great at copy and paste jobs.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Good work. If I was still working on YR, I'd use this. Props.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hotrods20 wrote:
Studying sucks man.

Hahahah true that! Very Happy

hotrods20 wrote:

What are you studying?

Oh, I am on college, I am old dog.
What do you think how old am I?


hotrods20 wrote:

If it is German, I might not be able to help, LOL.

Haha good that someone else except few of us have sense for humor here Very Happy

hotrods20 wrote:

Just please keep your art free and good.

How do you mean free? of course it will be free, as I am against releasing mods with copyrighted things. People are just dumb, they think that they can copyright something which cannot be copyrighted.
You need to go to authorized institution as a court or similiar, to get document that you are owner of that and that it belongs to you, so you can officially owner and can copyright stuff, in order that everything be legal. Not just put in your website ,,Copyrighted by Cannis" or Mooman or whoever. I do not know about you, but it make me laughing each time I visit their ,,Legal" pages. But seriously, it is stronger than me, I cannot resist not to laugh. They can be copyrighted only when they make their own engine.
But also I am against when people totally idiotically rip off whole mods and make even worse. For example I found once ripped mental Omega on some Arabic or Thailand site, even I do not know on which language was that. And I send to Speeder PM about that. What is the point, guy or guys there ruined MO with some crappy models. They made some Epic unit for Epsilon, one shitty small voxel for epic unit, white colored, even not in Yuri's scheme, which fires some laser. Shit, what more to say. And I haven't seen Speeder arming himself with virtual guns and go to hunt them for ripping and ruining his mod.
Good damnit, even I downloaded one Cannis's rules mod with unlocked mix files, assuming that Cannis protected it. I do not know how to unprotect mix.
Shortly, my point is that every asset should be free to all for that reason. So better if morons use your own ideas and assets IN THEIR MODS RATHER THAN RIP OFF AND RUIN YOUR WHOLE MOD. And they are capable of doing it.

hotrods20 wrote:

Don't give up in making art.

Well, it does not depend on me only.

hotrods20 wrote:

You are extremely great at copy and paste jobs.

Thanks man really! I am so glad that you like me and my work!
I like you too man Very Happy
Well, I think that I am just decent, not just that great, but thanks. Here are much better people than me! And worse, of course. I am just in golden middle! Very Happy
Well, that is matter about personnel taste. You may like some artist and his work more than another one, even if it is proven that another artist is 5 times better than your favorite. But still, its our opinion, and your taste for those assets, so I respect your opinion!
man, I am glad to talk to you.

m7 wrote:

Good work. If I was still working on YR, I'd use this. Props.

m7, thank you very much man! This is also rare case that you praise my work! Thanks!

But guys, this is the first shp that nobody of you found a drawback here! Very Happy
Well, of course because I enhanced original it with good details. If this shp has drawbacks, then Westwood one's has it too.

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MRMIdAS
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Replacing Arnie with this Smile

Cheers dude.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I am glad to talk to you, LOL.

About the copyright shiza:
Copyrighting is a load. I am well aware of that. Getting a trademarked business is worse. In the end you end up paying for what? A name that someone that doesn't know anything about anything says you can use.

Your age:
From your excellent art and that you are in college. I do believe you are 25 (twenty-five or funfundzweizig). How close am I?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

MRMIdAS wrote:
Replacing Arnie with this Smile

Cheers dude.

O hai man! Yeah, of course he can be replaced. Just rename shp from GTRP to ARND. Thanks for using it!

hotrods20 wrote:
I am glad to talk to you, LOL.

Now I am going to spell your name in three lines, and smiley as fourth. Watch this:
hot
rods
20
Very Happy

And usually I am using this smiley to greet people, but we do not have it here. I will force banshee to upload it here haha.

hotrods20 wrote:

About the copyright shiza:
Copyrighting is a load. I am well aware of that. Getting a trademarked business is worse. In the end you end up paying for what? A name that someone that doesn't know anything about anything says you can use.

Well, copyrighting in real life is something else, but copyrighting in C&C community is just amusing. You can use anything you wish, since everything is free, like it someone or not. If they think that assets should be only for their mods, then better do not release those mods, as once released it public, then assets are released too.
But whoever, as decent artist and modder, I have codex and moral, so even private I am not using stuff from other mods. Except 2-3 ones I badly need them, and there are no alternative. Really, I feel better when I have my own stuff, rather than using someone else. As you can see, I am making assets which I can, just so community will have it, which was originally aimed for personnel mod.

hotrods20 wrote:

Your age:
From your excellent art and that you are in college. I do believe you are 25 (twenty-five or funfundzweizig). How close am I?

You are so close. I am 23 Very Happy
I see that you are from Germany, right?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Definitely using this. Good job, bro Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks freedom fighter! Lets fight! Very Happy
But I doubt that shp will be used for freedom purpose Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Deutschland, nein. I'm from America and I'm trying to learn Deutsch. Rather fun and easy language.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

haha try to learn Serbian then to see how it is fun.
Баш је забавно! Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I will look into after Japanese, Russian, and Yiddish.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

haha. Where do you live in America?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Well, copyrighting in real life is something else, but copyrighting in C&C community is just amusing. You can use anything you wish, since everything is free, like it someone or not. If they think that assets should be only for their mods, then better do not release those mods, as once released it public, then assets are released too.
But whoever, as decent artist and modder, I have codex and moral, so even private I am not using stuff from other mods. Except 2-3 ones I badly need them, and there are no alternative. Really, I feel better when I have my own stuff, rather than using someone else. As you can see, I am making assets which I can, just so community will have it, which was originally aimed for personnel mod.

So wait, you're pro-ripping since the assets were 'released' ? Because there's going to be a few people who strongly disagree (and one of the reasons they don't release their mods) and give you a piece of their mind.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yep. There is a huge difference between releasing assets to be used by others and releasing mods to be played by others. Most people create their own assets because they want to create something original and if it's for a particular mod then of course they don't want it being spread and diluted, losing it's originality.

If people want to share their hard made mod to be played by others they shouldn't have to try safeguard against people taking advantage.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

m7 wrote:

So wait, you're pro-ripping since the assets were 'released' ? Because there's going to be a few people who strongly disagree (and one of the reasons they don't release their mods) and give you a piece of their mind.

What the ztype are you talking about?
Who says that I ripped anything?
Everything I release, I made it. Only buildups for Soviet and Yuri Animated Oil Derricks I released was based on custom Tech Oil Derrick buildups.
Every single asset was made by me.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OmegaBolt wrote:
Yep. There is a huge difference between releasing assets to be used by others and releasing mods to be played by others. Most people create their own assets because they want to create something original and if it's for a particular mod then of course they don't want it being spread and diluted, losing it's originality.


You are right, I do not say anything against that, but I am saying what is reality. Reality is that once you release a mod, you know a risk.
Beleive me, last thing you want is to go and argue about your mod or assets in some shitty idiotic site host or chinese or whatever.
Just answer me one question. But honestly.
its just example:
You release a mod. And some idiot rips it off and upload to some chinese or illegal server. What can you do about it? How would you stop him?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

MasterHaosis wrote:

You can use anything you wish, since everything is free, like it someone or not.


I can go to a store with a bag, stuff the bag with goods and make a run for it. Does not mean that I should do it, or that doing so is condoned by the public. Theft in RL is of course more serious offence, being criminalized by an actual legislation rather than honor code of sorts that forbids asset ripping/usage without permission of some sort. Yep, even the people who don't like .mix file 'protection' probably agree with me that ripping is bad considering there's the infamous community blacklist and I am fairly sure that at least here on PPM forum rules also forbid such thing.

MasterHaosis wrote:
If they think that assets should be only for their mods, then better do not release those mods, as once released it public, then assets are released too.


The important part is that the assets are released as part of the mod, quite often specifically probihiting the usage of assets in any other modification blahblah. Of course that does not prevent parasites of all sorts doing it anyways. I know this is slightly hypocritical though, considering we've all been using WW's engine/assets.

As lopsided as the comparison between RL concept of copyright and it's modding community equivalent is, one could technically think of mods as some sort of derivative content, based partially on WW's game yet might also contain original content. I acknowledge that I am technically breaking the game EULA by modding the game etc. but I would like if people paid some respect for all the time spent on creating original graphical content etc. instead of just leeching off.

MasterHaosis wrote:
You release a mod. And some idiot rips it off and upload to some chinese or illegal server. What can you do about it? How would you stop him?


The very point of people who supported mix file 'protection' etc. during related past debates. Some people would like to prevent stuff like this happening in the first place, rather than cry about it later and behold as name of random mod...ripper X is listed on the damn community blacklist.


Just a shame some people can't understand even half of this. (and no, I am not talking about you MH.)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Starkku wrote:

Yep, even the people who don't like .mix file 'protection' probably agree with me that ripping is bad considering there's the infamous community blacklist and I am fairly sure that at least here on PPM forum rules also forbid such thing.

Do not take me wrong, but that black list is one of the most funnier things around, to scare children.
First off, only real mental handicapped idiot will rip off something with his real name.
he would change his name, change IP and uplaod stuff. Because he also knows the risk, uploading once will make it him banned and blacklisted for the end of his life from here.
So, you can blacklist name ,,StarKKu068011042" for example. This is only username, spending few seconds to write it before registration.

But wait, being blacklisted on PPm and few other forums doesnot mean automatically blacklist on internet. he can still continue with his ,,ilegal" activities on another place.
If he uploads ripped mod to another place, it means that he got support from there, from same people like he is. And if you complain there to administrator or webmaster that you are original author of mod and ripped mod must be deleted on your request, he will never obey to it cause that webmaster simply doesnot care about you, me, or anyone in PPM. Especially in places where people do not know much about modding.
For example, here in Serbia, I think only I and one guy know RA/YR modding. And you can guess results when someone uploads here anything, and you from ,,outside" come and complain! Do not talk even about some muslim or chinese/ any Asian servers and hosts!
So, my point is that if you want something really to be for you personally, then do not upload on internet, do not release mod with those stuff. Just use another assets for public, another for private with you and your close friends and thats it.
But no uploading something on internet yelling that nobody should steal anything because you will blacklist him.
If he decides to do anything, then it is too late, blacklist is useless.
it is not useles to me, cause I do not want go get blacklisted, but there are people who do not care you know.

Starkku wrote:

The important part is that the assets are released as part of the mod, quite often specifically probihiting the usage of assets in any other modification blahblah. Of course that does not prevent parasites of all sorts doing it anyways. I know this is slightly hypocritical though, considering we've all been using WW's engine/assets.

I totally agree with that.

Starkku wrote:

As lopsided as the comparison between RL concept of copyright and it's modding community equivalent is, one could technically think of mods as some sort of derivative content, based partially on WW's game yet might also contain original content. I acknowledge that I am technically breaking the game EULA by modding the game etc. but I would like if people paid some respect for all the time spent on creating original graphical content etc. instead of just leeching off.


Exactly! True that. But you know very well that people do now show often respect.
I am also decent modder and artist, I also do not want to see ripping stuff around, but reality here over internet, especially in those communities with mods and assets is that anyone can use anything without being punished. Only morally punished, but guess how much he cares for moral! Since he ripped things I doubt that he has moral.


Starkku wrote:

The very point of people who supported mix file 'protection' etc. during related past debates. Some people would like to prevent stuff like this happening in the first place, rather than cry about it and behold as name of random mod...ripper X is listed on the damn community blacklist.

Yes I agree with that. But I am also against mix protection because this is disrespect for Westwood then. As Westwood did not protected their files in such ways. So protecting something based on their own game engine in their own file type is also disrespect.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Starkku wrote:

Just a shame some people can't understand even half of this. (and no, I am not talking about you MH.)

Oh yeah! Right man, you are right.
I am glad to talk to you, to one of amazing modders. You know, your mod is really huge work, so as advanced and experienced modder you care about modding and community of course. So I understand your worries about people who cannot understand all of this, and art thieves of course.
I for example, in past I used anything I wanted. Because it all was private, of course, since I learned everything myself, and everything what I made in past, I made for myself only! Few years ago.
But now, last two years, I am doing different story. Even private, in my own I do not use anything from anyone that is not for public use. its because of myself, using something which is not public use makes me feel, weird, I do not know how to explain that. I just feel more happy to use something I made personally or downloaded for public use.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

m7 wrote:
So wait, you're pro-ripping since the assets were 'released' ? Because there's going to be a few people who strongly disagree (and one of the reasons they don't release their mods) and give you a piece of their mind.

I don't see pro-ripping anywhere in there...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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You can use anything you wish, since everything is free, like it someone or not. If they think that assets should be only for their mods, then better do not release those mods, as once released it public, then assets are released too.

Looks pro-ripping to me. His statement says that once a mod is released, the assets are released as well. When in reality, most modders don't just give away everything in a mod.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

In a way, they are. But it's still not a good idea to go around using them in a public modification. This is common sense we're talking about.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nice SHP Bro, it's good we have one of these public, keep up the good work.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I understand where MasterHaosis is coming from. He is not pro ripping and releasing. I understand completely. He thinks it's okay to extract files and use privately but thinks releasing them saying you own them and not having permission to upload them is wrong. Pretty simple to me.

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True statement.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

m7 wrote:

Looks pro-ripping to me. His statement says that once a mod is released, the assets are released as well. When in reality, most modders don't just give away everything in a mod.

Because you did not read all my sentences, you only chose random one which you liked the most and talk about it, making wrong concluding.
Here is what about I was talking all the time:
FurryQueen wrote:
In a way, they are. But it's still not a good idea to go around using them in a public modification. This is common sense we're talking about.

This is short and simply!
Because this is reality, once released mod is free and available to thieves of any kind. Thats why I asked OmegaBolt why would he do to stop them. Because calling someone who doesnot have moral a ripper means shit, also blacklisting him wont do much as most likely you will blacklist a fake name. Its like in real life calling someone thief and hoping that he will change and stop with stealing. Of course it wont help until he goes to jail.
So here comes problem in internet, cause art thief cannot be punished properly, or on more serious note, cannot be punished at all! Punished here doesn't mean punished in whole internet, I already said that.
So, basically like you said and like I said, do not release public stuff which you want to be only private. use public assets or make something which you do not care that will be used.

hotrods20 wrote:
I understand where MasterHaosis is coming from. He is not pro ripping and releasing. I understand completely. He thinks it's okay to extract files and use privately but thinks releasing them saying you own them and not having permission to upload them is wrong. Pretty simple to me.

Exactly! But point in my country and neighbors is that people in these areas do not care about virtual life, and ripping stuff over internet. So basically even if you are available of ripping and hosting such ripping stuff, nobody even did a such because they simply do not care. For them all of this is just waste of time. Most of my friends (to be more precious, all of my friends) do no understand what am I doing with modding. They do not understand simply that. They think that I am wasting my free time.
Only few of them plays my modification just because they are enough with original YR for all those years, and they never played a mod before in their life.

Now, lets get back on topic.

MT wrote:
Nice SHP Bro, it's good we have one of these public, keep up the good work.


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ONTOPIC:
@MT:
True statement.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

MasterHaosis wrote:
You release a mod. And some idiot rips it off and upload to some chinese or illegal server. What can you do about it? How would you stop him?
Of course I wouldn't be able to stop him, but once it's done I can make sure people are aware that none of the work is his. TBH if it were just in the Chinese community I couldn't care less as I don't visit there but if it appeared on ModDB then I'd complain about it.

My way of protecting assets is simply not to make my own. #Tongue I only edit voxels, make cameos, GUI etc, nothing worth ripping.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't want to interrupt your discussion guys, but maybe you guys could stop this. Wink If Banshee comes, . . . . . #Tongue

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

lol. Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Guys, please, stop with those idiotic pictures.
We were having a nice conversation, nobody offended nobody. One more shitty picture here and I will PM Banshee. If you want to post, then post, if you want to talk, then talk, but do not spam anymore with those craps.

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001010011100101110
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Runaway picture war anywhere not in OT forum normally goes to the dump. ...Anyways, about the SHP...

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The SHP is pretty dang good.

OFFTOPIC:
Stop with the damn pictures. That is what locks topics. If you want to troll with pictures, go to off topic forum and do that. Leave innocent SHP thread alone.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Innocent?! The last posts before Krow's Banshee-riot was about asset-respect, ripping and such.

That have closed topics, too. I think they're equal, since both are being off topic.

This situation reminds me from that scene of Transformers:
Unnamed robot: "Guilty or innocent?"
Quintesson: "Innocent."
Unnamed robot pulls level, poor Kranix gets executed

Yeah, innocent.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And? Does that mean that few of you should spam here with those pictures just because thread ,,could be" closed anyway.
Also, yeah we discussed about it, but DISCUSSED! having a nice conversation. i have no see nobody insulting, offending, spamming nobody, or nobody here acting against rules, until that idiotic behavior with picture spam appeared. Dont make me quote madHQ again Very Happy
Anyway, I told to banshee that I am not going to arguie with anyone in way I did before. Rather I will just PM'd him if I find situation for that.
So hotrods20 and that guy 001010011100101110 are right. This is just what makes threads closed often, and this is not place for that. For picture spam go to off topic.
If you do not like conversation here, until it is all legal and not rule breaking you cannot do anything about it except to skip further posts from here. EVEN IF WE WERE WRONG, this doesnot give you the right and excuse to disturb here anything. If you think this conversation is against rules, warn us. If we still continue with that, PM moderator of this area or Banshee. You have all right to do that. But not making smart asses by interrupt here with those non sense annoying pictures. You are not kids.
And I am not going to argue about that you know, I am just saying.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What the bloody fuck!? I ain't seeing no rippin' here. If there's one source MH, Mooman and any1 else ripped that arnold shp, thats from the fukken .mix files. The recolours also look totally different. So please,

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What the hell is going on here...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Aro wrote:
What the hell is going on here...

A lot of fail... a lot of fail...

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

FurryQueen wrote:
Aro wrote:
What the hell is going on here...

A lot of fail... a lot of fail...


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I hope you don't have a problem if I recolor this before using it.

Offtopic:
freedom fighter wrote:



That pic just motivated me, let's make a robot type of banshee that ban hammers you all just for spamming like me.

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