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Tweaking rules.ini problem & adding new infantry
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Chriss Rock
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Joined: 06 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:28 am    Post subject:  Tweaking rules.ini problem & adding new infantry
Subject description: Can't get infantry to work
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First of all, hy to everyone. I'm new to this forum.
So, for all you modders out there, here's one that in the last few days i found very hard to crack: I want Yuri and Yuri Prime in Ra2 to be able to mind control multiple units like in a Y'sR mod called Apocalypse. What i've tryied so far is:
- Changing the Damage fields in both [MindControl] and [SuperMindControl] from Damage=x to Damage=1024 (this works in Y'sR but as it seems, not in Ra2)
-Adding PipScale=Ammo and Ammo=xx to Yuri and YuriPrime but this also didn't worked.
-Modifying the Controller warhead, put all those verses to the max (100%) and this also didn't worked. (this wouldn't have worked anyway, iknow, but you can't blame me for trying)
-Adding a Burst=x to [MindControl] which had no effect.
The only thing i can think of trying is adding a weapon from Y'sR, [MultipleMindControlTower/Tank] and hope this works, but since those use the same warhead as [MindControl] i don't really have a big chance of seeing it done.
Do you have any ideas how can i do that ?

Also, i've got a little problem with adding infantry from Y'sR to Ra2. I want (and almost succedeed) to add Arnie, Sammy and the Initiate. Using XCC Mixer i extracted arnd.shp,stln.shp, init.shp and the cameo files from ra2md.mix -> localmd.mix -> conquermd.mix (can't remer if this is the right location), made an ecache13.mix file and put those in. I added them to the InfatryTypes list, made a section for each, cpoy+pasted the units and their weapons from rulesmd.ini but when in game, they moved but without animation, it's like they were freakin' rocks, they had no voices (that can be solved fairly easy i think) and they also couldn't fire.
I can't show my work because after a couple hours of trying to add these Infantry to ra2 without any success i was so mad that i deleted the ecache13.mix and the infantry from rules.ini.
And here's a little noobish question: to add infantry to ra2 what do i need, shp, vxl, and cameo files ?

[EDIT] So i took a look at the [MultipleMindControlTower/Tank] section in Y'sR and as i said there's no point adding one of them to Ra2 because it won't have any effect since both use Psychic Control as a projectile and Controller warhead (and these are identical in Ra2 and Y'sR)

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Graion Dilach
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

YR brought the possibility to have multiple mind control via damage, RA2 ignores it.

Have you copied over the artmd entries? Especially the sequence.

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kenosis
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

RA2 does not allow multiple mind control,that's the answer
Don't forget to copy the art entries and the sequence.

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Cranium
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

was it really neccesary to say the same damn thing Graion did? Rolling Eyes

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kenosis
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

No.

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Chriss Rock
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Joined: 06 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Graion Dilach wrote:
YR brought the possibility to have multiple mind control via damage, RA2 ignores it.

Have you copied over the artmd entries? Especially the sequence.


Yes, i did, to all three units but since i'm so noob i didn't knew/forgot to check out what those art sequnces are and because of that, no, i didn't copied the art sequnce.
Without waiting for your answer, i'll do it all again, and hopefully by the time you reply i'll be playing Ra2 with Arnie, hopefully Very Happy

And btw, thanx for quick replying! Smile

[EDIT] too bad for that MultipleMindControl Yuri Sad

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Chriss Rock
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:51 pm    Post subject: Almost made it to work Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Seems like those AreSequence sections were what i needed. Now i've got other tiny problems: sounds, names and cameos.
I've got some other questions for you:

1. Arnie, Sammy and Boris have cameos, but other infantry don't. Where can i find the cameos for Virus,Initiate, etc ?
2. Just placing the xxxICON and xxxxUICO in my ecache13.mix and telling rules.ini to use them will make these units have cameos ?
3. Everyting except cameos and sounds work well, i've added and modified weapons, cost, etc but my units don't have sounds, where cand i find the sounds for them ? They're somewere in ra2md.mix but can't remember exactly where, and oh, what are the codes (the three, four, etc) numbers in front of 0000.wav?

p.s.: I found some cameos but they're in jpeg, bmp, etc. What progrom can i use to convert them to shp, preferably other than PaintShop Pro ?
Thanx in advance Very Happy

[Edit] Fixed the cameos, all i have left to add are the sounds ... which are in langmd.mix i think, but i can't find them Sad

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001010011100101110
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Joined: 18 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

1. Use XCC Mixer to convert jpg or other formats into SHP(TS). First make sure that you select the correct PAL though, cameo.pal in this case. I don't know how you can find cameos for Virus, Initiate, and other YR units unless I upload em for you, which I can if you don't have any other sources. If you have YR then they are in langmd.mix>cameomd.mix

2. For cameos, you need to specify them in Art.ini

3. Sounds are in language.mix>audio.mix>audio.bag and audio.idx for sounds in RA2, and langmd.mix>audiomd.mix>audio.bag and idx for YR.

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Dutchygamer
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

For the sounds, you need to use the XCC Mix Editor's Sound Editor tool to view/add/extract/remove them.

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Chriss Rock
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Finaly, i thought i'd never see this done... but it is!! Cool thank you all for helping me.

"Infatry, done ... took me a couple of days but it's done. Now i'm moving on to tanks Very Happy ...and soon i'll conquer the art of modding ra2 and then ... well, then i'll just have a reason to brag. Mwahahahahaha" Laughing #evil Laughing

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