Bu7loos Voxeling Shake.

Bu7loos · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2011

Thanks for the Tip GD will do.

Bu7loos · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2011

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:15 pm Post subject:

Nice. Both excellent looking voxels.

Bu7loos · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2011

Thanks

Edit:Added description to the text above.

Orac · Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:06 am Post subject:

I thought tomahawks were rounder?

Bu7loos · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2011

This one is an updated version for a more futuristic look.

Orac · Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:45 am Post subject:

I guess... but you know the V2 was around before the Tomahawk?

Bu7loos · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2011

V2 ? that German experimental rocket from ww2 ? don't know how are you trying to relate it the subject can explain more ? it would help.

Darkstorm · Commander **Joined**: 20 Jan 2008 **Location**: Texas

I think it was trying to say that roundness or not has nothing to do with futurism. I can't say that it does either way but the tomahawk or rather "Tomhawk" as you seem to have named it, looks awesome.

Orac · Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:37 am Post subject:

V1, sorry.
Either way, my meaning was that the 'futuristic' tomahawk put me more in mind of a 70 year old design than a near future one.

Bu7loos · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2011

Oh I see well missiles I kinda thought i will look more futuristic this way but still it fits imo thanks for the headsup dude Smile

@Darkstorm: I see what you mean and thanks Smile

dodgevipergts · Chem Warrior **Joined**: 31 Jan 2011

that tomahawk looks amazingly cool, it reminds me of the Nazi Silbervogel

Bu7loos · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2011

thanks

I see why orac see it old not futuristic #Tongue

Alex06 · Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:05 am Post subject:

dodgevipergts wrote:

that tomahawk looks amazingly cool, it reminds me of the Nazi Silbervogel

Nazi?! It looks so modern I would've never thought.

Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

Alex06 wrote:

Nazi?! It looks so modern I would've never thought.

Yes, they even had 3ds max in 1944/45 and did that render back then. #Tongue

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dodgevipergts · Chem Warrior **Joined**: 31 Jan 2011

well it actually only got to the stage of being a tunnel model, thats just an illustration

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Graion Dilach · Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 1:21 pm Post subject:

That heavy tank is badass.

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That looks nice.

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Bu7loos · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2011

Thank you both, inspired from End War tho.

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Speechless...

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 5:13 pm Post subject:

Yeah very nice, these show some improvement over most of your previous work IMO.

Martin Killer · Missile Trooper **Joined**: 27 Nov 2005

Nice impression from End War Smile

. There is also a nice Archer Artillery -> http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130311191031/endwar/images/3/3d/EFECMarksmanCombat.jpg

Bu7loos · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2011

Thanks guys , ill post in game soon.

@O-Bolt: Took some time to somewhat improve.

@martin Killer:Hmm archer yeah I might consider it for my E.C. faction as some elements of my mod is inspired from End War specifically USA, E.C. and F.U.A.N.F.F.

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wow

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thanks mate.

Zero18 · Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 4:12 am Post subject:

Wow, these are beautiful!

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Nikademis Von Hisson · Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 5:19 am Post subject:

They are not beautiful.....they are down right sexy!

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Hecthor Doomhammer · Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 10:21 am Post subject:

great voxels. hope to see more soon

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Bu7loos · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2011

Thanks again !

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Atomic_Noodles · Defense Minister **Joined**: 05 Oct 2011

Heh nifty Drone Design...

Looks like a conventional Jet but has the center part looking like a Helicopter Rotor... Laughing

A small reminder for its attack frames you need to double the length otherwise its center rotors (if those are animated) will spin faster when its attacking. If not... carry on.

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Awesome.

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Zero18 · Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:32 am Post subject:

Is that SHP???

I like that! It looks like a combination of modern and future warfare. Cool

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Bu7loos · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2011

Currently thinking of Altering all my voxels to SHP's but dunno I've to much work to just throw it away, also sadly my poly skills are still basic man if can find the right tutorial ill be ending up creating something similar to RS #Tongue

Zero18 · Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:37 am Post subject:

But SHP can't tilts on slope...

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Graion Dilach · Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:33 pm Post subject:

IMO SHP tanks just doesn't worth it... seriously, with good VPL edits, you can archieve great SHP-quality results.

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Bu7loos · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2011

I get your point but Imo if you look at ROS almost every SHP tank is good, 3D somewhat give an extended depth and lots of colours patterns and etc.. (Although VPL's does something similar and like you said it good results comes out if altered correctly as I also might look at it some time later I haven't fully explored it yet and might change my mind) variation if textured correctly and light is not too augmented like voxels. In short its a matter of taste, I like voxels but I still think Shp made tanks is better as for the part after giving a thought about it for being not worth it yes your totally right I've done so much work just to easily throw away just like that and plus Yr is a limited engine so I wont even to try to budge and request from ARES team to make some kind of sophisticated system for 3D implementation since you guys have lots of work on your hand.

Martin Killer · Missile Trooper **Joined**: 27 Nov 2005

Really, shpzing voxels isn't worth. It's just a step back.

Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

If you have all voxel as a 3dmodel, then go for SHP.
AlexB can surely tell you how to get 32 facings work in RA2/YR.

You know my statement: SHP > VXL
If you do everything as SHP you should also think about creating a complete new lighting. e.g. a dusk setting with very long shadows would be surely very cool.
Or how about some strange surrealistic lighting? everything possible with a pure SHP mod.
So imo scrap the ugly, limited capabilities of VXL and go for SHP.

However you should then consider making the terrain pure 2D and no different heights. Or make the slopes look more flat than usual.

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Graion Dilach · Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:45 pm Post subject:

Honestly, LKO I respect you for what you've done...

but you're blinded by your own foolishness.

SHPs are good for mechs (when you don't plan to use rocking weaponry), but tilting and slopes are actually what turn this game 3D. Maybe you haven't noticed in TS, but this game is in 3D, and every calculation happens 3D.

You're pretty much saying to give up the 3Dness because of using vehicle SHPs.

If you took a look in the VPL research thread you woulda know that all those pros of SHP could be done with VXL as well by using a dummy section of the voxel. And keeping 3Dness because of using a dynamic thing and not a static one.

FYI, this is how my voxels look like ATM. I think this do look like an SHP.

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Zero18 · Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:58 pm Post subject:

Graion, can I use your Chrono Miner? They look so sexy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Bluboos, it will look unrealistic if tanks can't tilt on the slope. Just like Martin Killer said, it is a step back. :/

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Graion Dilach · Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:20 pm Post subject:

It's Orac's from this pack. http://www.ppmsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30971 Just with a custom pal and VPL. I didn't modified the voxel itself.

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Lin Kuei Ominae · Seth **Joined**: 16 Aug 2006 **Location**: Germany

Graion Dilach wrote:

FYI, this is how my voxels look like ATM. I think this do look like an SHP.

lighting is ugly. Your sun is on horizon level with the roof shadowed?
Where is the unit shadow? nothing visible on ground
Pixelated when diagonal? no antialiasing
simple lighting makes everything look like plastic

Doesn't looks that superior to me.
It's a nice voxel considering the limitations of VXL, but ugly when compared to the possibilities of SHPs.

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Zero18 · Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 9:00 pm Post subject:

Oh... I didn't see the invisible lines between the cargo and the shadow inside it. Yeah that's bad.

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Volgin · Commander **Joined**: 07 Mar 2009

It's an archaic engine - the benefits that SHP offers for vehicles are FAR outweighed by the problems.

Lemme think... Physics ingame, the lack of decent modelers to make the appropriate model, the lack of texture-makers for the said model once you get it, the time consumed...

And jesus christ, barely any mods get released anymore, and even worse, there is such a small modding community to begin with! Why bother with SHP vehicles?!

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 9:20 pm Post subject:

Go with SHP dude and also make the terrain 2D. Would look beautiful.

Or... go OpenRA. Very Happy

Bu7loos · Commander **Joined**: 27 Jul 2011

uh should've thought this would spark a debate #Tongue

but anyways ill go as planed with Voxel's (for now) and I agree with Volgin small community and mods is barely coming out plus I've restarted my mod like 3 times already xD, Lastly point taken from everyone, thanks.