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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:51 pm Post subject:
The England Riots
Wow, my homeland has gone completely ztyping mad. Can someone preferably living in England explain what the hell is going on?!? I'm getting Facebook messages from friends living in London who's local shops are being gutted by fire-bombs. Something about a guy being shot. are these race riots like the ones in Los Angeles back in the 90's? _________________ Beta Tester for Mental Omega 3.0
Initially the police shot some guy in Tottenham dead after he had a gun (which in the end only fired blanks). Peaceful protests then started against the police but soon escalated into riots as idiotic kids took advantage. It also spread to loads of areas in London, Birmingham and now Newcastle, Liverpool and Bristol.
It's mostly kids of this generation but there are reports of parents getting their kids to load up stolen goods into vans etc. I don't know what's going on but it's likely only gonna create a bigger stereotype of the low-lives who only live off benefits and scrounge and steal. I mean they robbed JJB stores so you know what kind of people are doing this. Last edited by OmegaBolt on Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:16 pm; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
OmegaBolt just about summarized everything you need to know. Pathetic excuses for human beings taking advantage of an understandable mix-up, there is no real excuse for what is going on at all, especially not in the areas of my Hometown (I am far from in a safe haven here).
I didn't think it was possible, but Birmingham is now even more of a mess than ever before. Fucking stupid kids. It'll be a miracle if this mess is cleaned up before the weekend. Last edited by Aro on Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:30 pm; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
Here is an example of a group of idiots in Birmingham. The fact that the police are being blamed for the riots is just shocking to say the least. If this was happening in any other country in the world, the 'rioters' would of been shot long before the situation became out of control.
Yeah, it totally is that film/book right now and it can only wider the divide between the "poor" (although poor in England still have Blackberries and shit) and every class above, especially politicians. QUICK_EDIT
Say what you like about the Police, but we would be in serious trouble without them. What a horrendous waste of our emergency services resources, when genuine people need them. QUICK_EDIT
Is sucks, I mean what do the earn of this? To kill, hurt a lot of human because the police did just kill one guy?
Grow up I mean. Stupids kids-
If it was me: I should kill all of them right away. I mean it.. they have none brain and the world economy is in bad time is it so good to spend a lot og pund to get this around?
I hope a lot of this gets arrested, and even the "leader" will have to pay for everything. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:17 pm Post subject:
I'm worried that this will cause Parliament to bring in laws to give the police more power. Ultimately, these people are just idiots who want to vent for some reason or are sociopaths with no care about consequences. I've read criticism of the police in the handling of the Mark Duggan killing but I think they've handled the riots as well as they can. Apparently there will be 16,000 police in London tonight.
I'm quite lucky, not much has really happened in Leeds, although apparently someone was shot in the face. _________________
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I'm worried that this will cause Parliament to bring in laws to give the police more power. Ultimately, these people are just idiots who want to vent for some reason or are sociopaths with no care about consequences. I've read criticism of the police in the handling of the Mark Duggan killing but I think they've handled the riots as well as they can. Apparently there will be 16,000 police in London tonight.
I'm quite lucky, not much has really happened in Leeds, although apparently someone was shot in the face.
Um, question: Where is the army?
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those guys are just ztyping idiots it's just like aro said when you need the police now they're way to busy with those idiots. And clazzy I heard that too there will be around 16000 police in London.
I'm not as old as all you guys but seriously why the ztype would you start a riot because of someone got shot by the police _________________
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The police do not want the army involved afaik and neither do I. This is a civilian matter, it is not political or civil war so the military should have no involvement. Once the military get involved where does it end? Once the riots are quelled? So nobody can step out of line in future? A government that unleashes its military on it's people is worth rioting against. As soon as the military are involved it becomes political.
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those guys are just ztyping idiots it's just like aro said when you need the police now they're way to busy with those idiots. And clazzy I heard that too there will be around 16000 police in London.
I'm not as old as all you guys but seriously why the ztype would you start a riot because of someone got shot by the police
Peaceful protests were made regarding the killed man, they wanted answers understandably. These riots are not over that guy they simply took advantage of the situation in Tottenham and now others are copying. QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:41 pm Post subject:
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Um, question: Where is the army?
The British government in modern times have never used the army as a means to quell the populace. No government will ever stand forward and be the first to do so. Besides, mixing the army with policing doesn't really result in much else than injuries and massacres. They're trained to kill, remember. _________________
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I don't know, but TBH we had similar shit in the 90's and until the army +police did not intervene, the shit did not end. Those guys permit themselves too much, really. If the army was made to protect (read: Ministry of defence ) then why doesn't it do something? I've heard that you don't have enough cops to stop the rioting. How will you stop it then? QUICK_EDIT
If this shit happened in the US, you'd bet your ass the National Guard would be in on the action. They're military, but they're specifically built for domestic issues (like riots getting out of control). Britain needs to quit dicking around and show those hoodies who the real boss actually is. _________________ KGR | AT
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:43 pm Post subject:
Furry, we don't operate like that. The government has never deployed the army against it's own people. We just can't. My friend I've been facebooking has joined a local militia in her neighbourhood to deter rioters after a shop not far down the road from here was put to the torch. This is just ugly, I'm ashamed to be British... http://twitpic.com/63m4r3 _________________ Beta Tester for Mental Omega 3.0
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:25 am Post subject:
Apparently, some of my friends living in Greater Manchester have grabbed their paint ball guns to help out if it continues tomorrow night. I told them to freeze the rounds, hurts more. _________________ Beta Tester for Mental Omega 3.0
Furry, we don't operate like that. The government has never deployed the army against it's own people. We just can't. My friend I've been facebooking has joined a local militia in her neighbourhood to deter rioters after a shop not far down the road from here was put to the torch. This is just ugly, I'm ashamed to be British... http://twitpic.com/63m4r3
The National Guard isn't the Army. It's an entirely separate entity and they're not all "trained killers" or anything. The Guard is basically just state militias and they're used for emergencies. When riots last for days, that qualifies as an emergency.
I don't get it. They shoot a drug lord, riots in the street.
They shoot an innocent Brazilian Electrician on a train in front of dozens of people, nothing happens. QUICK_EDIT
To be honest it stopped being about Mark Duggan long ago, this is greed plain and simple. Most of those thugs especially the copycats in other cities such as Birmingham, wouldn't even know who the guy was.
I've heard that some of the idiots are trying to sell looted items on Facebook. _________________
"And Cain went out from the presence of The Lord, and dwelt in the Land of Nod, east of Eden."
I've heard that some of the idiots are trying to sell looted items on Facebook.
And here I thought the UK was more cultured than this. I've been proven wrong. Bravo, Britain. Bravo. _________________ KGR | AT
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:23 am Post subject:
this time furry I agree with you. I thought we were more cultured than that as well, ztyping thugs the lot of them _________________ Beta Tester for Mental Omega 3.0
I've heard that some of the idiots are trying to sell looted items on Facebook.
And here I thought the UK was more cultured than this. I've been proven wrong. Bravo, Britain. Bravo.
I sometimes have a feeling that a little excess of manners makes this look lame. I don't say everyone does it, but I have to say that their manners sometimes are a bit annoying.
@Ixonoclast: Welp, the army in 1999 was nearly the same as the one in 1990. So, imagine why we did that. QUICK_EDIT
Looks like Europeans don't understand what a bomb they are sitting on. (I mean islamic enclaves in cities.)
These rioters aren't ztyping Muslims. It's poor 'west indian' (Caribbean) immigrants and just poor kids in general. _________________ Victory! QUICK_EDIT
@McStalin: Are you an idiotic wannabe templar? These riots aren't those EDL vs anti-fascist/muslim citizens clashes that occurred many months ago. Also, those three muslims involved in that hit-n-run were the victims, not the aggressors
Ontopic: AFAIK these rioters, like y'all already mentioned, are just a bunch of wankers looting around while yelling "FUCK DA POLICE!!!111". If they are rioting because of Mr Duggan, they shouldn't be screwing with innocent people's property. Guess these guys have been playing too much Killing Floor...
"DOSH! Grab it while you can, lads! Money money moneeeey!" _________________ The future belongs to The Forgotten! QUICK_EDIT
Looks like Europeans don't understand what a bomb they are sitting on. (I mean islamic enclaves in cities.)
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Ontopic: AFAIK these rioters, like y'all already mentioned, are just a bunch of wankers looting around while yelling "ztype DA POLICE!!!111". If they are rioting because of Mr Duggan, they shouldn't be screwing with innocent people's property. Guess these guys have been playing too much Killing Floor...
When riots get started, nothing is safe. Nobody thinks, it's fueled by alcohol and stupid, which is a dangerous combination regardless of situation. Research any major US riots within the last thirty years. The 1992 LA Riots is a prime example. A ton of shit was vandalized that had nothing to do with what started the fucking riot. The same is occurring here... always happens. _________________ KGR | AT
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:11 am Post subject:
Actually, I'm looking at the extent now... Maybe the army should be deployed, shit I wouldn't be opposed to a few live rounds. When you see the government ain't ztyping around any more this will stop. _________________ Beta Tester for Mental Omega 3.0
Maybe the army should be deployed, shit I wouldn't be opposed to a few live rounds. When you see the government ain't ztyping around any more this will stop.
Lazy governments don't deploy troops against their own.
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Looks like Europeans don't understand what a bomb they are sitting on.(I mean islamic enclaves in cities.)
Not quite, we're still on topic, except for deformat there.
Either way, back on topic, if they do deploy troops, they should exercise caution in regards to what they use to slap the rioters down.
I can only imagine further deaths would agitate the situation even worse, considering how the whole mess got started in the first place. _________________ ... QUICK_EDIT
Looks like Europeans don't understand what a bomb they are sitting on. (I mean islamic enclaves in cities.)
Right? Then explain to me why three Muslim men lost their lives yesterday whilst trying to defend their businesses from rioters in Aston, Birmingham? Those men stood up for themselves, this has absolutely nothing to do with religion, all the riot participants are of different races, cultures and religions. The fact that they died for standing up against these thugs gains them every single ounce of respect I have. Take your racism elsewhere, scumbag.
Things have gone too far, when innocent people in Birmingham are dying due-to petty theft and vandalism, police brutality is more than necessary.
ErastusMercy, DarkRose and I are all from Birmingham and things are looking far from bright at the moment. Last edited by Aro on Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:43 pm; edited 1 time in total QUICK_EDIT
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The England Riots
