Red Alert 2 - abandonware?

Deformat · Defense Minister **Joined**: 17 Sep 2007

Somehow I was asking myself this, since I haven't seen TFD in game stores for quite a while.

Thing is, since in late 2009 TS was made freeware, and in 2008 RA1, and in 2007 TD, why wouldn't we get a freeware RA2/YR?

Maybe if we send a letter from the modders to the new EA dude (the one who replaced APOC) we could get it?

Just a thought.

Frontlines · Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:57 am Post subject:

I see TFD quite a lot in the retail stores.. Best Buy.. Target, that sorta thing, over here.

And I'm not sure about the time lapse's and such, but could it be APOC who helped with the releasing of the freeware?

OmegaBolt · Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:29 am Post subject:

After the fail of C&C4 its unlikely they'll release their most popular WW C&C for free when TFD, EA Classics and SoldOut game series still sell it. They probably don't get that much from RA2 now but I doubt they are still feeling generous.

Mig Eater · Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:13 pm Post subject:

Loads of TFD in UK shops...

Also see here.

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CCHyper · Defense Minister **Joined**: 07 Apr 2005

TFD is everywhere in the UK, for like a £10 in some places. I also noticed there is two box arts as well...

Garrick · Medic **Joined**: 08 Jul 2011

I sent such a PM a while back and all i got was "Time will tell"

DavyCrockett · AA Infantry **Joined**: 30 May 2010 **Location**: Germany

Garrick wrote:

I sent such a PM a while back and all i got was "Time will tell"

I Asked about that directly on the forums some time ago.

http://www.commandandconquer.com/forums/showthread.php?3822-Will-RA2-be-released-as-freeware-to-promote-the-next-CnC

Imo the main reason isn't TFD (hardly anyone buys it now + the likely reason for most people who bought it where anyway RA1 and TD, so there aren't any reasons to buy it since long ago), but that Apoc isn't community manager anymore and the new one doesn't care beyond his tasks.

Btw. In Germany you definitely can't get it new anymore + at least on Amazon.com it is also only available from resellers (=EA doesn't make any profit)

Scorched Earth · Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:53 pm Post subject:

I really hope so.

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Zengar_Zombolt · Plasma Trooper **Joined**: 30 Apr 2008

OmegaBolt wrote:

After the fail of C&C4

Just want to point out, Perspective is everything. And that CnC4 was on the top selling PC games for several weeks.

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FurryQueen · General **Also Known As**: Fen **Joined**: 24 Jul 2010

Yeah? And Madden games sell like hotcakes every year too. Doesn't make them good games.

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raminator · Commander **Joined**: 04 Oct 2005 **Location**: Bierkasten

I just bought ra2/yr a month ago (ORIGINAL YR-DISC BROKE) and i see lots of tfds in germany

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OmegaBolt · Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:35 am Post subject:

Zengar_Zombolt wrote:

Just want to point out, Perspective is everything. And that CnC4 was on the top selling PC games for several weeks.

Seriously? I thought it sold very little, the price dropped incredibly fast. After a few weeks it was dirt cheap.

^Rampastein · Rampastring **Joined**: 11 Oct 2008 **Location**: Gensokyo

Zengar_Zombolt wrote:

Just want to point out, Perspective is everything. And that CnC4 was on the top selling PC games for several weeks.

And it still failed completely even from that perspective when compared to older C&C games (which were always selling millions before RA3) and other strategy games.

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FurryQueen · General **Also Known As**: Fen **Joined**: 24 Jul 2010

Actually, I think it's the other way around. I don't think C&C before EA sold quite as much as you think it did.

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Volgin · Commander **Joined**: 07 Mar 2009

RA1 maybe.

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^Rampastein · Rampastring **Joined**: 11 Oct 2008 **Location**: Gensokyo

FurryQueen wrote:

Actually, I think it's the other way around. I don't think C&C before EA sold quite as much as you think it did.

I haven't searched much about those numbers, but according to this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PC_video_games RA1 sold at least 3 million, TS 1,5 million, and both TW and RA2 1 million units in different timeframes. So that list isn't a very reliable source nowadays either, but I think it's pretty clear that all of those have done better than C&C4.

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Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

Red Alert was in Guinness World Records for some selling record, can't remember the details. I also saw a mention in Wikipedia that C&C games broke 6 world records, but they don't mention which records.

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blubb · General **Joined**: 31 Jul 2005

i got TT one or two months later....for 4 bucks.

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Zengar_Zombolt · Plasma Trooper **Joined**: 30 Apr 2008

I said it sold well, not Cod Fish Well. And if I wanted CnC4 Haet, I'd go the the official Forum, I thought PPM was above this!

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FurryQueen · General **Also Known As**: Fen **Joined**: 24 Jul 2010

No C&C site is above this. C&C4 was an abomination.

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Zengar_Zombolt · Plasma Trooper **Joined**: 30 Apr 2008

Now I wonder why people who are not in the Cabal of WW are leaving CnC...

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m7 · Commander **Joined**: 17 Apr 2009

Why would a site dedicated to modding older games be more accepting of such a terrible game?

I had an open mind towards CnC4 but in the end it failed on every aspect.

Zengar_Zombolt · Plasma Trooper **Joined**: 30 Apr 2008

Why can't you people admit it is not terrible, I mean I said it was nice, not great, not good, defiantly not perfect. But Everyone one the other side always says that the game is as bad as being violated with a Spork!

~Edit~

Before this gets out of hand, I think the "Me Vs PPM" should be split so that people who like RA2 could continue as they were.

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m7 · Commander **Joined**: 17 Apr 2009

Sorry, but as an individual with an opinion and the ability to express it I will. In my opinion, much like many others', that game was terrible.

Wouldn't have even been that bad if they hadn't stuck CnC all over it.

Darkstorm · Commander **Joined**: 20 Jan 2008 **Location**: Texas

The only thing that I play for in it is the leveling system, which is flawed as it is. Otherwise, it is a terrible game.

Zengar_Zombolt · Plasma Trooper **Joined**: 30 Apr 2008

Like I said, this should be cut from this talk, so you can barade me with the same "It Sucks" and the only sticking complaint being "It's Not CnC"

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FurryQueen · General **Also Known As**: Fen **Joined**: 24 Jul 2010

Zengar_Zombolt wrote:

Now I wonder why people who are not in the Cabal of WW are leaving CnC...

I haven't left C&C, I like Tiberium Wars and Red Alert 3 and I don't really like Westwood all that much.

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m7 · Commander **Joined**: 17 Apr 2009

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Like I said, this should be cut from this talk, so you can barade me with the same "It Sucks" and the only sticking complaint being "It's Not CnC"

Not to quote Renegade, buuuut that looks like a shitty excuse to accept other's opinions with a 'straw man' argument. Not only did I say that it was terrible, I pointed out that it would have probably not been so bad if the entire CnC thing hadn't been tackily stuck on a Korean arena RTS. Never did I say anything about it not being CnC whatsoever, so go take your Pepzi-esque faggotry elsewhere you whiny cunt.

Nyerguds · Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:11 pm Post subject:

Don't see what use it is to ask if something is "abandonware" though. Doesn't make it any less illegal to pirate it.

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Dutchygamer · Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:04 pm Post subject:

The only thing C&C4 is good for, is ripping it's sounds/voices, and the music is good at times #Tongue

Zengar_Zombolt · Plasma Trooper **Joined**: 30 Apr 2008

m7 wrote:

Quote:

Like I said, this should be cut from this talk, so you can barade me with the same "It Sucks" and the only sticking complaint being "It's Not CnC"

Not to quote Renegade, buuuut that looks like a shitty excuse to accept other's opinions with a 'straw man' argument. Not only did I say that it was terrible, I pointed out that it would have probably not been so bad if the entire CnC thing hadn't been tackily stuck on a Korean arena RTS. Never did I say anything about it not being CnC whatsoever, so go take your Pepzi-esque faggotry elsewhere you whiny cunt.

Wow, I mean wow...If this is how you act around someone who disagrees with you...

Good Day PPM.

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Crimsonum · Seth **Joined**: 14 Jul 2005 **Location**: Fineland

Dutchygamer wrote:

The only thing C&C4 is good for, is ripping it's sounds/voices, and the music is good at times #Tongue

The music is actually really well done. It's the only reason I wouldn't remove C&C4 from the face of the Earth.

Graion Dilach · Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:27 pm Post subject:

Dutchygamer wrote:

The only thing C&C4 is good for, is ripping it's sounds/voices, and the music is good at times #Tongue

QFT. There's never enough sound assets for mods. ^^

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m7 · Commander **Joined**: 17 Apr 2009

I'm just tired of people being so goddamn sensitive when it comes to a clashing opinion. And I agree, never enough voices.

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Dutchygamer wrote:

The only thing C&C4 is good for, is ripping it's sounds/voices, and the music is good at times #Tongue

At least there is something decent you can do modding wise. I agree 100%.

freedom fighter · General **Joined**: 14 May 2009

Dutchygamer wrote:

The only thing C&C4 is good for, is ripping it's sounds/voices, and the music is good at times #Tongue

Dammit Dutchy! You made me quote you too #Tongue

Yep, the soundtrack is undoubtly the MOST epic CnC soundtrack and some of the models and voice are useful modding cookies. Unfortunately the game sucked. That doesn't mean EA sucks. TW and RA3 was good too Smile

Ontopic: Nah, RA2 ain't abandonware yet. They're still sold around and I can still find TFD in numerous computer shops.

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